Yeah, Biden, there's a reputable source of fact-based opinions....

Biden would not be a good pick. The Democrats should pick someone with military experience, IMO.

GAT_00: Biden would not be a good pick. The Democrats should pick someone with military experience, IMO.

Because Al Gore's distinguished military record is just what Bill Clinton needed to unseat the incumbent World War II veteran.

Sad that Biden was by far the most qualified candidate and he never had a chance.

ps go fark yourself submitter.

Jim Webb, that is all.

Whatever.

Isn't it December yet?

Biden has many good points in my book. But the thing that keeps me from liking him too much (this goes for Chris Dodd as well) is his heavy handed stance against gun ownership.

Joe Biden the plagiarist?
Joe Biden talking about a "Clean African American"?
That Joe Biden? Are You serious?

torquestripe: Joe Biden the plagiarist?
Joe Biden talking about a "Clean African American"?
That Joe Biden? Are You serious?




LordZorch: Yeah, Biden, there's a reputable source of fact-based opinions....


Was what he just said wrong? if so, how?

D-DP?

Biden's right

Isn't Biden the clown that said he found Barry "clean" and "articulate" at something or other????



No, no hugs for you, thats racist (please cue the little kid lip-syncing it)

Remove all Republicans: torquestripe: Joe Biden the plagiarist?
Joe Biden talking about a "Clean African American"?
That Joe Biden? Are You serious?

Why not? A Clinton/Biden ticket of lies/plagiarismAnd don't forget racism would be unstoppable, at least to the truth!

Next, he can say that water is wet.

Alphax: Next, he can say that water is wet.

And everybody will call him a liar.

boomaze: Alphax: Next, he can say that water is wet.

And everybody will call him a liar.

Rick Romero of Politicians. Comes with Experience.

Insertwitty Namehere: Jim Webb, that is all.

I can see the possibility and wouldn't mind it, but I don't think it'll happen. He wrote a novel that had some dirty parts in it and he wrote an article called "Women Can't Fight" back in the late seventies. Allen and the freeper-types attacked him for it back in 2006.

Webb
Sebelius
Richardson

If I were Obama, I'd start hinting at Sebelius to neutralize the "vote for a woman crowd!" then after he sweeps everything to the convention, he picks Webb to neutralize the "vote for a military hero!" crowd.

/horrible at politics though
//just know three good VP possibilities when I see them

Biden shouldn't be VP. He should be the President.

WorldCitizen: Biden shouldn't be VP. He should be the President.

WorldCitizen: Biden shouldn't be VP. He should be the President.

i went to the Univ of Delaware...he was aiight. spoke at my graduation and had a one-on-one- q&a forum with the students in 2002 about the war.

/cant tell you what i did on 9/10 or 9/12, but i remember 9/11 like it happened yesterday.

NeuroticRocker: BINLADEN

War on Terror reference, WINNAR!

harris5: //just know three good VP possibilities when I see them

As long as he picks Feingold for a cabinet position I'm fine.

YesWeHaveNoBannanas: Isn't Biden the clown that said he found Barry "clean" and "articulate" at something or other????



No, no hugs for you, thats racist (please cue the little kid lip-syncing it)

who was that guy who called his native american assistant bukakke?

harris5: Webb
Sebelius
Richardson

If I were Obama, I'd start hinting at Sebelius to neutralize the "vote for a woman crowd!" then after he sweeps everything to the convention, he picks Webb to neutralize the "vote for a military hero!" crowd.

/horrible at politics though
//just know three good VP possibilities when I see them

I was thinking Olympia Snowe. Don't know all her positions (giggity) but I did hear of a few of her actions that seem to show her in a rather good light.

Biden and Pelosi should just STFU until Patreaus has a chance to even speak. Then they can make all the statements they want. They've already passed judgement before hearing what the guy is even going to say, and yes, they look like douchebags for it.

muck4doo: Biden and Pelosi should just STFU until Patreaus has a chance to even speak. Then they can make all the statements they want. They've already passed judgement before hearing what the guy is even going to say, and yes, they look like douchebags for it.

What did Biden say that is factually incorrect?

Biden is going to be Secretary of State and would have made a damn great president, if only for the inevitable foot in mouth comments ever year.

muck4doo: They've already passed judgement before hearing what the guy is even going to say, and yes, they look like douchebags for it.

The stars of Petraeus's uniform doesn't make him infallible nor above criticism. He's already revealed himself to be nothing more than a White House mouthpiece. Letting Petraeus propagandize without rebuttal would be dereliction of duty by our congresscritters.

muck4doo: Biden and Pelosi should just STFU until Patreaus has a chance to even speak. Then they can make all the statements they want. They've already passed judgement before hearing what the guy is even going to say, and yes, they look like douchebags for it.

Because we've done this several times - he's Bush's guy, why would we suspect to hear anything but "it's go'n good! tough but good!"

boomaze: muck4doo: Biden and Pelosi should just STFU until Patreaus has a chance to even speak. Then they can make all the statements they want. They've already passed judgement before hearing what the guy is even going to say, and yes, they look like douchebags for it.

What did Biden say that is factually incorrect?

"The purpose of the surge was to bring violence in Iraq down so that its leaders could come together politically," said Biden, D-Del., in this week's Democratic radio address. "Violence has come down, but the Iraqis have not come together."

He later added, "There is little evidence the Iraqis will settle their differences peacefully any time soon."

We don't know yet. It would be nice to hear from the people there before making that assessment. What you hear in the news here isn't always the best way to gather complete information on what is actually going on there.

saintstryfe:
Because we've done this several times - he's Bush's guy, why would we suspect to hear anything but "it's go'n good! tough but good!"

Exactly, he's a tool

muck4doo: We don't know yet.

Yes, we do know.

TofuTheAlmighty: muck4doo: They've already passed judgement before hearing what the guy is even going to say, and yes, they look like douchebags for it.

The stars of Petraeus's uniform doesn't make him infallible nor above criticism. He's already revealed himself to be nothing more than a White House mouthpiece. Letting Petraeus propagandize without rebuttal would be dereliction of duty by our congresscritters.

Usually rebuttals come after someone has said their piece, not beforehand. That's my point.

/Rebutts your reply by saying whatever you type next is a lie.

muck4doo: Biden and Pelosi should just STFU until Patreaus has a chance to even speak. Then they can make all the statements they want. They've already passed judgement before hearing what the guy is even going to say, and yes, they look like douchebags for it.

Generals do not, in fact, hold all the facts - that's why they get briefings every morning. And do you know what happens in the background to get those briefings finished? A general's staff does not create those briefings - it's a bunch of lower enlisted and some lower ranking officers taking orders from a one or two star. And they have to fit the criteria of those one or two stars first - the four star gets a very diluted product.

That's right, dippy, some of us know what's behind the curtain, and hearings are nothing more than dog and pony shows. The generals usually have an entire staff with them that do specialize in certain aspects of information cos no one can possibly know what's really happening everywhere all the time.

The testimonies are just compilations (like a greatest hits) of all briefings pertaining to the subject at hand.

Alphax: muck4doo: We don't know yet.

Yes, we do know.

Then why have him speak at all. Just ask the lefties at Fark. They know what is really going on in Iraq.

muck4doo: boomaze: muck4doo: Biden and Pelosi should just STFU until Patreaus has a chance to even speak. Then they can make all the statements they want. They've already passed judgement before hearing what the guy is even going to say, and yes, they look like douchebags for it.

What did Biden say that is factually incorrect?

"The purpose of the surge was to bring violence in Iraq down so that its leaders could come together politically," said Biden, D-Del., in this week's Democratic radio address. "Violence has come down, but the Iraqis have not come together."

He later added, "There is little evidence the Iraqis will settle their differences peacefully any time soon."

We don't know yet. It would be nice to hear from the people there before making that assessment. What you hear in the news here isn't always the best way to gather complete information on what is actually going on there.

That was the explicitly stated purpose of the surge by the Bush admin. The Iraqis have not come together. The fighting in Basra was different clans of Iraqis. Not AQI. And there is no evidence anything will change soon. these are facts.

muck4doo: Alphax: muck4doo: We don't know yet.

Yes, we do know.

Then why have him speak at all. Just ask the lefties at Fark. They know what is really going on in Iraq.

If you think he is going to do anything other than follow the company line your are delusional.

boomaze: muck4doo: boomaze: muck4doo: Biden and Pelosi should just STFU until Patreaus has a chance to even speak. Then they can make all the statements they want. They've already passed judgement before hearing what the guy is even going to say, and yes, they look like douchebags for it.

What did Biden say that is factually incorrect?

"The purpose of the surge was to bring violence in Iraq down so that its leaders could come together politically," said Biden, D-Del., in this week's Democratic radio address. "Violence has come down, but the Iraqis have not come together."

He later added, "There is little evidence the Iraqis will settle their differences peacefully any time soon."

We don't know yet. It would be nice to hear from the people there before making that assessment. What you hear in the news here isn't always the best way to gather complete information on what is actually going on there.

That was the explicitly stated purpose of the surge by the Bush admin. The Iraqis have not come together. The fighting in Basra was different clans of Iraqis. Not AQI. And there is no evidence anything will change soon. these are facts.

Basra, Sadr City does not equal all of Iraq. It sounds to me like one faction right now is a lone problem. Do we cave in now to Sadr and just leave then and claim the whole thing is not worth continuing?

muck4doo: Basra, Sadr City does not equal all of Iraq. It sounds to me like one faction right now is a lone problem. Do we cave in now to Sadr and just leave then and claim the whole thing is not worth continuing?


You don't begin to have a clue what you are talking about. Read a newspaper.

boomaze: muck4doo: Basra, Sadr City does not equal all of Iraq. It sounds to me like one faction right now is a lone problem. Do we cave in now to Sadr and just leave then and claim the whole thing is not worth continuing?


You don't begin to have a clue what you are talking about. Read a newspaper.

Why don't you educate me then and tell me who these other factions are causing violence with the Iraqi government?

Joe Biden should be McCain's running mate. They could take turns saying akward terrible things about minorities, women, religions, needy bald people, etc.

awkward dammit

muck4doo: Alphax: muck4doo: We don't know yet.

Yes, we do know.

Then why have him speak at all. Just ask the lefties at Fark. They know what is really going on in Iraq.

I didn't ask him to speak.

NeuroticRocker: WorldCitizen: Biden shouldn't be VP. He should be the President.

WorldCitizen: Biden shouldn't be VP. He should be the President.

i went to the Univ of Delaware...he was aiight. spoke at my graduation and had a one-on-one- q&a forum with the students in 2002 about the war.

/cant tell you what i did on 9/10 or 9/12, but i remember 9/11 like it happened yesterday.

Are you STILL talking about 9/11? My God, man, get over it. It was, like, 7 years ago or something.

Tor_Eckman: muck4doo: Alphax: muck4doo: We don't know yet.

Yes, we do know.

Then why have him speak at all. Just ask the lefties at Fark. They know what is really going on in Iraq.

If you think he is going to do anything other than follow the company line your are delusional.

I would also be delusional to think that top Democratic party leaders would say anything that would otherwise hurt their chances of getting more power.

Alphax: muck4doo: Alphax: muck4doo: We don't know yet.

Yes, we do know.

Then why have him speak at all. Just ask the lefties at Fark. They know what is really going on in Iraq.

I didn't ask him to speak.

Of course not.

muck4doo: boomaze: muck4doo: Basra, Sadr City does not equal all of Iraq. It sounds to me like one faction right now is a lone problem. Do we cave in now to Sadr and just leave then and claim the whole thing is not worth continuing?


You don't begin to have a clue what you are talking about. Read a newspaper.

Why don't you educate me then and tell me who these other factions are causing violence with the Iraqi government?

Badr and Mahdi militia and Iraqi forces are the THREE main in Basra alone. Here is a start. Research it. It is a mess. I normally dont like Klein, but he is knowledgable on Iraq. Jaun Cole is good too.

http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/03/today_in_iraq_er_iran.html

boomaze: muck4doo: boomaze: muck4doo: Basra, Sadr City does not equal all of Iraq. It sounds to me like one faction right now is a lone problem. Do we cave in now to Sadr and just leave then and claim the whole thing is not worth continuing?


You don't begin to have a clue what you are talking about. Read a newspaper.

Why don't you educate me then and tell me who these other factions are causing violence with the Iraqi government?

Badr and Mahdi militia and Iraqi forces are the THREE main in Basra alone. Here is a start. Research it. It is a mess. I normally dont like Klein, but he is knowledgable on Iraq. Jaun Cole is good too.

http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/03/today_in_iraq_er_iran.html


Need I even mention the lack of consensus government with the Shiites, Sunni, and Kurds?