Metallica still cool. you pay later! LATER!

Whenever I step on a bug, I posthumously name him "Cliff"

Why couldn't Lars have died? He is a TERRIBLE drummer. Oh well there's MANY metal bands out there better than Metallica ever was.

If you get a chance, check out Sunn0)))'s tribute to Cliff, "F.W.T.B.T (I Dream of Lars Ulrich Being Thrown Through the Bus Window instead of My Master Mystikall Kliff Burton)"

Spinal Tap without the humor

I miss Cliff. I got to meet him in Philly when Metallica opened up for Ozzy on his Ultimate Sin tour. Super nice dude.

strangeguitar: I miss Cliff. I got to meet him in Philly when Metallica opened up for Ozzy on his Ultimate Sin tour. Super nice dude.

That's nifty!!!! How'd you meet him, exactly?

You know what's strange? In a few short years, he'll be dead longer than he was alive. And I can remember hearing about him being killed like it was yesterday.

klymen: Metallica still cool. you pay later! LATER!

Still cool? Lars, is that you?

Sorry, Metallica has sucked hard core ever since Load. I'm glad that album did for their career what you, Lars, did for Napster. fark you and burn in hell.

ComicBookGuy: strangeguitar: I miss Cliff. I got to meet him in Philly when Metallica opened up for Ozzy on his Ultimate Sin tour. Super nice dude.

That's nifty!!!! How'd you meet him, exactly?

You know what's strange? In a few short years, he'll be dead longer than he was alive. And I can remember hearing about him being killed like it was yesterday.

I was lucky enough to sneak backstage at the Spectrum. I met Cliff and James. James was kinda aloof, but Cliff talked with me and my friend for 15 minutes.
Also got to talk to Jake E. Lee. Another nice dude.

strangeguitar: ComicBookGuy: strangeguitar: I miss Cliff. I got to meet him in Philly when Metallica opened up for Ozzy on his Ultimate Sin tour. Super nice dude.

That's nifty!!!! How'd you meet him, exactly?

You know what's strange? In a few short years, he'll be dead longer than he was alive. And I can remember hearing about him being killed like it was yesterday.

I was lucky enough to sneak backstage at the Spectrum. I met Cliff and James. James was kinda aloof, but Cliff talked with me and my friend for 15 minutes.
Also got to talk to Jake E. Lee. Another nice dude.

Aaaah.

I know someone who got backstage at Monsters of Rock, '88, at RFK in D.C. He knocked on Metallica's dressing room door, and Lars came out. Said Lars was nice, but the rest of the band was supposedly in a bad mood for some reason. Eh, there's more to it, but that's enough.

ComicBookGuy
HA! I traveled to the RFK show too. Great show.
I was quite the metal gypsy back in the day.
Now I'll only travel to see King Diamond, Emperor or Electric Wizard(UK) if they doesn't come to Philly

Lar$ couldn't keep time with a wristwatch. This clip, as great as it is, reveals that.

He improved with AJFA, but it's been downhill since.

Lars is a dildo.

darch: He improved with AJFA, but it's been downhill since.

Just "improved"? Come on, give credit where credit is due. I can't stand Lars, but his performance on AJFA is simply amazing. Gotta love those beats.

This is so amusing and a little embarrassing. I'll bet you all thought Spinal Tap, The Monkees, and The Partridge Family were real bands, too.

The one Metallica I didn't like, was AJFA.

It sounded so thin and sterile.

Joystk: The one Metallica I didn't like, was AJFA.

It sounded so thin and sterile.

Do you mean the production/recording, or the actual songwriting? I've always held AJFA to be the perfection of metal.

Four Horsemen is my favorite Metallica song. Great lyrics, power and slow mosh all in one. Too bad they couldn't write a song like that again if their lives depended on it.

The one Metallica I didn't like, was AJFA.

It sounded so thin and sterile.

You're absolutely right- but you're talking (I think) about the production, which IS "thin and sterile". This is attributed to Lar$ and James thinking that it would be "funny" to take out (or at least lower) all of the bass tracks on the masters. This resulted in one of the worst-sounding albums ever made...

...however, from a songwriting/playing perspective, you're hearing a band at the top of it's creative game. AJFA is widely heralded as Metallica's progressive masterpiece- perhaps not as crushingly heavy as Master of Puppets or as raw and primal as Kill 'Em all, but a true picture of a band at their creative zenith.

/saw 'em TWICE on the AJFA tour
//Queensryche
///Cult
////lawn- off it

Let's just cut to the chase and post some Cliff Burton bass solos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O9zMnwD65Q

strangeguitar: ComicBookGuy
HA! I traveled to the RFK show too. Great show.
I was quite the metal gypsy back in the day.
Now I'll only travel to see King Diamond, Emperor or Electric Wizard(UK) if they doesn't come to Philly

Well...Iron Maiden is coming to Merriweather on June 18th. I may or may not go. I saw them at a really small venue w/Anthrax opening in '91, already, so I'm not sure I need to see them again.

cambie: Sorry, Metallica has sucked hard core ever since Load. I'm glad that album did for their career what you, Lars, did for Napster. fark you and burn in hell.

Well at least you aren't one of those rose-tinted glasses types who think Metallica died with Cliff Burton and never produced anything good after Kill Em All.

darch: The one Metallica I didn't like, was AJFA.

It sounded so thin and sterile.

You're absolutely right- but you're talking (I think) about the production, which IS "thin and sterile". This is attributed to Lar$ and James thinking that it would be "funny" to take out (or at least lower) all of the bass tracks on the masters. This resulted in one of the worst-sounding albums ever made...

...however, from a songwriting/playing perspective, you're hearing a band at the top of it's creative game. AJFA is widely heralded as Metallica's progressive masterpiece- perhaps not as crushingly heavy as Master of Puppets or as raw and primal as Kill 'Em all, but a true picture of a band at their creative zenith.

/saw 'em TWICE on the AJFA tour
//Queensryche
///Cult
////lawn- off it

That's what I was talking about, yeah. There's some really great tracks on there, don't get me wrong, it's if I had to pick a 'Tallica album to be my least favorite, that would be it.

/even liked St. Anger
// and Load
/// and ReLoad
////but don't worry favorite album is Kill'em All

even liked St. Anger

Sorry, but you're automatically disqualified. Enjoy the consolation prizes.

rka: cambie: Sorry, Metallica has sucked hard core ever since Load. I'm glad that album did for their career what you, Lars, did for Napster. fark you and burn in hell.


thier albums, yes..although I still have hope for thier new one for some reason. But live, they're still really really great. Saw them at the end of their St. Anger tour and it was amazing.

Hetfield
Do you mean the production/recording, or the actual songwriting? I've always held AJFA to be the perfection of metal.

This.

thier albums, yes..although I still have hope for thier new one for some reason. But live, they're still really really great. Saw them at the end of their St. Anger tour and it was amazing.

Negative. Somewhere around the time of Load/Re-Load, Metallica became a swirling vortex of suck live. I won't even go into a long-winded explanation as to why i think this is, just do this:

Watch the '89 Seattle show from "Live S**t: Binge and Purge", then watch "Cunning Stunts" or any other live DVD they've put out since.

Not.

Even.

Close.

Please disagree with me...please.

With the exception of Cliff's famous bass solo I honestly have never heard bass in any Metallica song.
Can't think of one single bassline of theirs.

I once ran into Jason Newsted at the pro shop at Universal Rehearsal studios in Dallas. I was there to pick up my Fender Jazz bass from the in house luthier and Newsted was there producing the new REO Speeddealer record in one of the big rooms.

He says to me "man that is a sweet bass you got there" and asked if he could check it out. Naturally I let him play on it and we talked bass guitars for awhile.

I think the only reason he even gave me the time of day was because I never acknowledged that I knew who he was.
I just spoke politely with him one bassist to another.

craigdamage: With the exception of Cliff's famous bass solo I honestly have never heard bass in any Metallica song.
Can't think of one single bassline of theirs.

King Nothing's got a pretty sweet bass intro.

/thought St Anger would've made a good, short, raw-as-fark EP
//not 14 hours of noise

craigdamage: With the exception of Cliff's famous bass solo I honestly have never heard bass in any Metallica song.
Can't think of one single bassline of theirs.

I once ran into Jason Newsted at the pro shop at Universal Rehearsal studios in Dallas. I was there to pick up my Fender Jazz bass from the in house luthier and Newsted was there producing the new REO Speeddealer record in one of the big rooms.

He says to me "man that is a sweet bass you got there" and asked if he could check it out. Naturally I let him play on it and we talked bass guitars for awhile.

I think the only reason he even gave me the time of day was because I never acknowledged that I knew who he was.
I just spoke politely with him one bassist to another.

Jason is really down to earth. I saw him play with Voivod at the Bronco Bowl (RIP) in Dallas. They blew the breakers and when they were taking a break to get the power back on, he was in the crowd, chatting to folks like any bar band musician. He seemed like a really decent guy with a true love for music. A very unaffected and mellow guy...and a hell of a bass player.

darch: thier albums, yes..although I still have hope for thier new one for some reason. But live, they're still really really great. Saw them at the end of their St. Anger tour and it was amazing.

Negative. Somewhere around the time of Load/Re-Load, Metallica became a swirling vortex of suck live. I won't even go into a long-winded explanation as to why i think this is, just do this:

Watch the '89 Seattle show from "Live S**t: Binge and Purge", then watch "Cunning Stunts" or any other live DVD they've put out since.

Not.

Even.

Close.

Please disagree with me...please.

ok...i'll partly disagree with you...i have the binge and purge dvd and it's awesome...there's just something about actually being there, being at the front, being in a crowd that's going nuts...just the whole live experience of being there can't compare to watching a video of it....i'm sure that seeing them live in '89 would be better than seeing them now...all i'm saying is that i enjoyed it having no other live in-person experience with them

and they used to sound good too.

darch: thier albums, yes..although I still have hope for thier new one for some reason. But live, they're still really really great. Saw them at the end of their St. Anger tour and it was amazing.

Negative. Somewhere around the time of Load/Re-Load, Metallica became a swirling vortex of suck live. I won't even go into a long-winded explanation as to why i think this is, just do this:

Watch the '89 Seattle show from "Live S**t: Binge and Purge", then watch "Cunning Stunts" or any other live DVD they've put out since.

Not.

Even.

Close.

Please disagree with me...please.

No disagreements here.

/Was AT the '89 Seattle Show. Still have my ticket stub. The Cult opened for them IIRC.

//To all you Metallica-haters...see them live.

craigdamage: With the exception of Cliff's famous bass solo I honestly have never heard bass in any Metallica song.
Can't think of one single bassline of theirs.

I once ran into Jason Newsted at the pro shop at Universal Rehearsal studios in Dallas. I was there to pick up my Fender Jazz bass from the in house luthier and Newsted was there producing the new REO Speeddealer record in one of the big rooms.

He says to me "man that is a sweet bass you got there" and asked if he could check it out. Naturally I let him play on it and we talked bass guitars for awhile.

I think the only reason he even gave me the time of day was because I never acknowledged that I knew who he was.
I just spoke politely with him one bassist to another.

Wait, does that luthier still operate at that studio?

or did Dan move into a tiny-ass space near some train tracks?

Pretty much the only Metallica I can listen to anymore is RTL.

Thunderboy: Pretty much the only Metallica I can listen to anymore is RTL.

RTL has filler, MOP does not.

Also, Load is pretty weak but I still give it credit for at least being better than mainstream rock. St. Anger on the other hand...

Metallica was never good

danduran: King Nothing's got a pretty sweet bass intro.

THIS

/even though it's basically the bass intro from Sanitarium done in 4/4 instead of 10/4
//also it was playing on my itunes when I signed up for Fark, in case you can't tell by my handle
///the best song on Load
////which is kinda like being the smartest kid with Down Syndrome

craigdamage: With the exception of Cliff's famous bass solo I honestly have never heard bass in any Metallica song.

I'm sure you've heard Orion. I'm also sure you've heard For Whom the Bell Tolls (the beginning descending riff is bass). His bass on Battery and Master of Puppets is great. LISTEN HARDER.

browntimmy: RTL has filler, MOP does not.

the only song that could be construed as "filler" on MOP is "the thing that should not be." hands down, the weakest tune on an otherwise perfect album, start to finish.

other related items: they could remaster AJFA to bring up the bass and make it sound more rich and depthful (instead of the tin can that it is). if (not when) they do so, it will fulfill the integrity of that album. but more importantly, it will let everyone know they're finally allowing cliff to rest in peace. and giving much forgiveness to newstead.

Whatthefark: Four Horsemen is my favorite Metallica song. Great lyrics, power and slow mosh all in one. Too bad they couldn't write a song like that again if their lives depended on it.

I prefer the original version called mechanix done on the first megadeth album.. Much faster. Dave Mustain wrote the song anyways I think.

/if you get kicked out of Metallica for a drinking problem, man you've really got a problem...

GBmanNC:I prefer the original version called mechanix done on the first megadeth album.. Much faster. Dave Mustain wrote the song anyways I think.

I don't. Dave's version (The Mechanix) is just a decent thrash song while The Four Horsemen is epic. Dave wrote most of the song, but James improved the lyrics and also added the sweet headbanging "Time has taken its toll on you" part.

On another note, they recently reworked one of their stinkers from St. Anger for an acoustic concert and it turned out to be not bad. Here's the Link (new window).

/sorry to be so positive in a Metallica thread.

King Something: danduran: King Nothing's got a pretty sweet bass intro.

THIS

/even though it's basically the bass intro from Sanitarium done in 4/4 instead of 10/4
//also it was playing on my itunes when I signed up for Fark, in case you can't tell by my handle
///the best song on Load
////which is kinda like being the smartest kid with Down Syndrome

I'm getting kicks an offhand comment I wrote about King Nothing was replied to by a guy called King Something.

I'm suprised Lars hasn't DMCA'd this off YouTube yet.

oh, FARK YEAH.

Zeppo Nightshade: Spinal Tap without the humor

Hehe. Exactly. Uncreative schlock for people with mullets.

cmunic8r99: I'm suprised Lars hasn't DMCA'd this off YouTube yet.

[This reply to cmunic8r99's comment has been removed due to a DMCA request by Lars Ulrich]

There's a reason they only play the old shiat in concert.

Daraymann: There's a reason they only play the old shiat in concert.

Yep. Saw them at the Roskilde festival back in '03. Amazing concert, they were so happy to be on stage again you could feel it. Hammett just stood there with a smile from ear to ear from first song to last.

Since I have friends nearby, I'll probably pay a visit soon to the place where Cliff died. Last summer a group of fans put up a memorial there. Black granite, real nice thing it seems.

I think Dan is still there.

I am still at Universal but not the main facility on Greenville ave.
My band uses one of the smaller "satellite" studios in Garland.

Dan is the man.
He does superb work and charges very little.
In fact,he often charges nothing.
He will not charge you if he can fix something in less than 10 minutes or so. I have seen him open up many "stomp boxes" and simply re-connect something and just hand it back to you for free.

Great guy.
Both my USA Fender basses have his loving touch.