West Des Moines school officials say they will discipline at least one student after a surprise search with drug-sniffing dogs Thursday turned up suspected marijuana in a gym locker at Valley High School.

Thursday's sweep was the second at the school in two years but the first in which an illegal substance was allegedly found.



two years of jack booted thuggery and the worst they ever came up with was ONE dime bag in ONE locker?

How much money do you suppose was spent to find half an ounce of a substance that's entirely harmless to the human body? Was it worth the time, effort and money? Personally i'd rather spend that sort of fundage on improving education, but i'm radical like that.

The 70's sure wasn't like that. I know, I was there.

/class of 77

Weaver95: How much money do you suppose was spent to find half an ounce of a substance that's entirely harmless to the human body? Was it worth the time, effort and money? Personally i'd rather spend that sort of fundage on improving education, but i'm radical like that.

You and I both know we're headed for a police state. It's far better to label children with crimes and mental problems so they can be drugged and restrained in later life. That's how we roll now.

I would like to point out for the record that the '80's were completely drug free. We thought pot was something you used to cook food.

GaryPDX: You and I both know we're headed for a police state. It's far better to label children with crimes and mental problems so they can be drugged and restrained in later life. That's how we roll now.

It just amazes me that we're willing to throw kids in jail for a dime bag of pot but we hand out ritlin like it was M&M candy.

The mother went on to say "Do as I say, not as I do."

Weaver95: GaryPDX: You and I both know we're headed for a police state. It's far better to label children with crimes and mental problems so they can be drugged and restrained in later life. That's how we roll now.

It just amazes me that we're willing to throw kids in jail for a dime bag of pot but we hand out ritlin like it was M&M candy.

Exactly. I have a 18 year old relative that's already farked for life. Ritalin, Aderall and psycho drugs since he was 5 years old. I'll be amazed if this kid lives past 30. I pulled a sawed off shotgun from under his dresser when he got popped into juve a few months back. He's tagged for life now. He could easily be tagged "anti-social" if he gets in trouble again, he's an adult now and juvenile records are no longer sealed in this day and age.

It's Des-FARKING-Moines! What do you expect kids to be doing in the middle of IOWA?

Weaver95: GaryPDX: You and I both know we're headed for a police state. It's far better to label children with crimes and mental problems so they can be drugged and restrained in later life. That's how we roll now.

It just amazes me that we're willing to throw kids in jail for a dime bag of pot but we hand out ritlin like it was M&M candy.

While at the same time pushing forward with drugs that are supposed to do the exact same things that marijuana does after certain medical procedures like chemotherapy.

The lesson here kids is "avoid Skynet". Blend into the noise level and don't draw attention to yourselves. You get tagged and you're screwed, no more Rights for you.

In other words, be good little drones.

Now that I actually RTFA...

"I think a big part our responsibility is to keep kids safe in school," he said, adding that he believes the searches "help in a proactive way to keep drugs away from our schools."

We wonder why kids post all kinds of compromising images of themselves online. (Well, ok, we point and laugh, and wonder.) These kids have no idea what privacy is. They've never known any.

As long as kids know school is kind of prison.

Kome: While at the same time pushing forward with drugs that are supposed to do the exact same things that marijuana does after certain medical procedures like chemotherapy.

Yeah, but how are the drug companies gonna make money if people grew their own cannabis? Yeesh - think of the share holders!

runchkin: I would like to point out for the record that the '80's were completely drug free. We thought pot was something you used to cook food.

That made me giggle.
Hee!

Weaver95: Kome: While at the same time pushing forward with drugs that are supposed to do the exact same things that marijuana does after certain medical procedures like chemotherapy.

Yeah, but how are the drug companies gonna make money if people grew their own cannabis? Yeesh - think of the share holders!

When I was a kid, I idolized Johnny Appleseed..:)

GaryPDX: The lesson here kids is "avoid Skynet". Blend into the noise level and don't draw attention to yourselves. You get tagged and you're screwed, no more Rights for you.

In other words, be good little drones.

I suspect that once those 'good little drones' get out on their own, we'll see a massive backlash against authority. Or I hope so anyway.

Kome: While at the same time pushing forward with drugs that are supposed to do the exact same things that marijuana does after certain medical procedures like chemotherapy.

That's because those would be covered under patent law. Mary Jane, not so much...

It's not profitable for pharmaceutical companies to deal in drugs that they can't own outright. They don't even consider them real "drugs" but just crops.

Pharm giants are patenting every damn thing that they can, in an effort to reduce competition and squeeze the markets.

Weaver95: GaryPDX: The lesson here kids is "avoid Skynet". Blend into the noise level and don't draw attention to yourselves. You get tagged and you're screwed, no more Rights for you.

In other words, be good little drones.

I suspect that once those 'good little drones' get out on their own, we'll see a massive backlash against authority. Or I hope so anyway.

Chaos and mayhem? I like adrenaline..:) Adrenaline is way better than pot.

runchkin: I would like to point out for the record that the '80's were completely drug free. We thought pot was something you used to cook food.

Back in the 80's, reality completely fractured for me when I saw Amish running cocaine into the midstate.

After that, I realized we couldn't win the war on drugs. it was impossible.

hubiestubert: Pharm giants are patenting every damn thing that they can, in an effort to reduce competition and squeeze the markets.


Kinda like the entertainment industry. kinda makes me wonder if they all know something we don't....

So the snarking is all there, but is anybody in America actually gonna stand up to this crap, or will we get another 70 years of immoral prohibition and the union of drug manufacturers, police, and criminal organizations first?

The single biggest threat to our liberties has always, to me, been the destruction of the Fourth, Fifth, and Eighth Amendments over the pursuit of a plant or an individual's right to medicate their body in a way that they might see fit.

But all you Patriots want to talk about is your right to shoot if you feel threatened. Tell ya what, I'd support the NRA if the NRA were as vocal about the criminality involved in the Drug War ... and the stupid build up of police state over it ... seems like a no brainer to me, but I'm a liberal city jerk arguing with people over drugs, that must label me a criminal in the mind of most.

Weaver95: Kome: While at the same time pushing forward with drugs that are supposed to do the exact same things that marijuana does after certain medical procedures like chemotherapy.

Yeah, but how are the drug companies gonna make money if people grew their own cannabis? Yeesh - think of the share holders!

hubiestubert: Kome: While at the same time pushing forward with drugs that are supposed to do the exact same things that marijuana does after certain medical procedures like chemotherapy.

That's because those would be covered under patent law. Mary Jane, not so much...

It's not profitable for pharmaceutical companies to deal in drugs that they can't own outright. They don't even consider them real "drugs" but just crops.

Pharm giants are patenting every damn thing that they can, in an effort to reduce competition and squeeze the markets.

Of course. The reason people do these things is for money and power. It being good or bad, smart or stupid, is totally irrelevant. If you can make a buck off of something now, who cares whether it'll f*ck up things later?

Weaver95: hubiestubert: Pharm giants are patenting every damn thing that they can, in an effort to reduce competition and squeeze the markets.


Kinda like the entertainment industry. kinda makes me wonder if they all know something we don't....

That competition means you have to work for your cheddar?

It's nothing new--while folks want to talk about the "miracle" of Free Markets, what we have in the US is hardly free. It's very managed, and ably assisted. The government has become a life support network for large companies, who really like to pocket the profit, share the risk with the public.

Really sort of defeats the whole idea of responsibility or free markets, but no one actually likes to hear that part of the equation.

Generation_D: So the snarking is all there, but is anybody in America actually gonna stand up to this crap, or will we get another 70 years of immoral prohibition and the union of drug manufacturers, police, and criminal organizations first?

The single biggest threat to our liberties has always, to me, been the destruction of the Fourth, Fifth, and Eighth Amendments over the pursuit of a plant or an individual's right to medicate their body in a way that they might see fit.

But all you Patriots want to talk about is your right to shoot if you feel threatened. Tell ya what, I'd support the NRA if the NRA were as vocal about the criminality involved in the Drug War ... and the stupid build up of police state over it ... seems like a no brainer to me, but I'm a liberal city jerk arguing with people over drugs, that must label me a criminal in the mind of most.

We haven't quite reached the..

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

part yet. We're close but not there yet.

GaryPDX: The 70's sure wasn't like that. I know, I was there.

/class of 77

Yeah they would have found a hell of a lot more than one dime bag.

Gwendolyn: GaryPDX: The 70's sure wasn't like that. I know, I was there.

/class of 77

Yeah they would have found a hell of a lot more than one dime bag.

hahaha..pot was an after thought back in my high school. There was too much blotter, window pane and mescaline floating around...:)

Weaver95: runchkin: I would like to point out for the record that the '80's were completely drug free. We thought pot was something you used to cook food.

Back in the 80's, reality completely fractured for me when I saw Amish running cocaine into the midstate.

After that, I realized we couldn't win the war on drugs. it was impossible.

I graduated in 1992 from a very rural community in Pennsylvania. If there were people doing drugs I didn't see or hear of it until I got into college. I knew drugs were out there but everyone in my school was too busy being drunk to smoke up. (not getting into the alcohol is a drug crap, just saying)

Oh and subby my kids are 12 and 10. I grew up in the late 80's early 90's. The lady in question is probably an 80s gal. Maybe she was surprised there was no coke.

Gwendolyn: I graduated in 1992 from a very rural community in Pennsylvania. If there were people doing drugs I didn't see or hear of it until I got into college. I knew drugs were out there but everyone in my school was too busy being drunk to smoke up. (not getting into the alcohol is a drug crap, just saying)

The Amish community in Lancaster covered it up pretty well, but a couple members from their more prominent families were up to their eyeballs in smuggling cocaine. I'm surprised at how well they kept it quiet, but given how clannish they are even on a day to day basis I suppose it shouldn't have come as that big a shock. Even to this day they won't talk about it.

Gwendolyn: Oh and subby my kids are 12 and 10. I grew up in the late 80's early 90's. The lady in question is probably an 80s gal. Maybe she was surprised there was no coke.

Yea..coke was an 80's thing, it was everywhere. I never saw the appeal myself.

GaryPDX: Gwendolyn: Oh and subby my kids are 12 and 10. I grew up in the late 80's early 90's. The lady in question is probably an 80s gal. Maybe she was surprised there was no coke.

Yea..coke was an 80's thing, it was everywhere. I never saw the appeal myself.

Dealers liked it because it was easy to transport, a small dose got you high and you could sell a kilo FAST. Cannabis was bulky and nobody paid much for it. too easy to get caught moving it too, plus people could and do grow their own, which cuts into smuggling profits.

GaryPDX: Gwendolyn: Oh and subby my kids are 12 and 10. I grew up in the late 80's early 90's. The lady in question is probably an 80s gal. Maybe she was surprised there was no coke.

Yea..coke was an 80's thing, it was everywhere. I never saw the appeal myself.

The 80s had cocaine, today we have Red Bull. Same appeal - concentrated bursts of energy to get through the day. Granted, I am simplifying it a great deal.

Kome: The 80s had cocaine, today we have Red Bull. Same appeal - concentrated bursts of energy to get through the day. Granted, I am simplifying it a great deal.

Nothing, but nothing, beats adrenaline. Someone wants to get high, jump out of an airplane. That'll make your heart pound like nothing else.

I swear by it, my drug of choice and I'm addicted.

mmmmm, sweet adrenaline.

We were always smart enough to leave the pot in our car. Kids today....

Whamdangler: We were always smart enough to leave the pot in our car. Kids today....

Want to really have fun? rub some resin on a cop's car door handle.

Eventually he's gonna walk past a K-9 unit....

Weaver95: Whamdangler: We were always smart enough to leave the pot in our car. Kids today....

Want to really have fun? rub some resin on a cop's car door handle.

Eventually he's gonna walk past a K-9 unit....

Oh thats priceless.

GaryPDX: Kome: The 80s had cocaine, today we have Red Bull. Same appeal - concentrated bursts of energy to get through the day. Granted, I am simplifying it a great deal.

Nothing, but nothing, beats adrenaline. Someone wants to get high, jump out of an airplane. That'll make your heart pound like nothing else.

I swear by it, my drug of choice and I'm addicted.

mmmmm, sweet adrenaline.

Dopamine beats adrenaline. Every time. =)
But your point is well taken. And I whole-heartedly agree with it.

My mom is always saying shiat like that. She used to grow pot in the 60's.

naveline: My mom is always saying shiat like that. She used to grow pot in the 60's.

The worst thing about pot is it makes a person lazy, paranoid and fat. Hardly a danger to oneself or society. It really does need to be separated legally from other illegal toxins, regulated similarly to alcohol and taxed.

But hey, what do I know..:)

UNC_Samurai: It's Des-FARKING-Moines! What do you expect kids to be doing in the middle of IOWA?

Meth?

Weaver95: GaryPDX: The lesson here kids is "avoid Skynet". Blend into the noise level and don't draw attention to yourselves. You get tagged and you're screwed, no more Rights for you.

In other words, be good little drones.

I suspect that once those 'good little drones' get out on their own, we'll see a massive backlash against authority. Or I hope so anyway.

It won't happen.

Kome: Dopamine beats adrenaline. Every time. =)

I must disagree, respectfully. Dopamine is the party drug, adrenaline can conquer tyrants and change the stars. Look at it alphabetically...:)

Leap tall buildings in a single bound. Faster than a speeding bullet...Adrenaline.

GaryPDX: Kome: Dopamine beats adrenaline. Every time. =)

I must disagree, respectfully. Dopamine is the party drug, adrenaline can conquer tyrants and change the stars. Look at it alphabetically...:)

You said get high. The adrenergic system doesn't directly do that. The dopaminergic system does. The adrenergic system gets you pumped up to focus on something you perceive as dangerous (e.g. plummeting to the ground thousands of feet up at incredible speeds). Once the perceived threat is dealt with in a satisfactory way (e.g. first time skydivers - you land safely; more experienced skydivers - you recognize that things are going according to plan and the end result will be a safe landing) the opponent process (^) kicks in to restore your neurotransmitter balance and pumps out dopamine like a beast.

Kome: GaryPDX: Kome: Dopamine beats adrenaline. Every time. =)

I must disagree, respectfully. Dopamine is the party drug, adrenaline can conquer tyrants and change the stars. Look at it alphabetically...:)

You said get high. The adrenergic system doesn't directly do that. The dopaminergic system does. The adrenergic system gets you pumped up to focus on something you perceive as dangerous (e.g. plummeting to the ground thousands of feet up at incredible speeds). Once the perceived threat is dealt with in a satisfactory way (e.g. first time skydivers - you land safely; more experienced skydivers - you recognize that things are going according to plan and the end result will be a safe landing) the opponent process (^) kicks in to restore your neurotransmitter balance and pumps out dopamine like a beast.

Yea..it works alphabetically..lol. They work hand in hand...:)

GaryPDX: Yea..it works alphabetically..lol. They work hand in hand...:)

Yea, but I like being pedantic. I don't know much about much, but I know me stuff 'bout the brain.

Kome: GaryPDX: Yea..it works alphabetically..lol. They work hand in hand...:)

Yea, but I like being pedantic. I don't know much about much, but I know me stuff 'bout the brain.

A couple weeks ago I was in an Adrenaline pumping situation big time. I felt good for 5 days. I'll bet it was the Dopamine. The first day was a rush though.

Oop..we're public. Everyone look busy!

Ya, mom didn't touch that nasty weed! She was all about that booger sugar!

Uh, coke is still EVERYWHERE. I know as many people who do coke as smoke pot. And there is a time and place for both.

But am I the only one who doesn't feel sorry for the girl? DON'T TAKE YOUR WEED INTO SCHOOL. Especially when they've been having random searches with dogs.