Wow, talk about 'big brother'.....

Got nanny?

fark's sake, when are they going to realise that this isn't the answer? It's the mindset that's at fault, not the availability of alcohol. Plus, if alcohol is more expensive then certain individuals will just commit more crimes to obtain it/afford it.

Blame Canada!

Oh noes!!!111!!!!



/will continue to buy cheap booze at the off-licence
//take that, liver!!!

it's that type of thinking that birthed america and lost you the ensuing war.

It is overly cheap. Massive cans of beer for under a dollar. Its a hobbies dream!

Poppov!

This will just be offset by a rise in crimes like shoplifting & robbery/burglary.

I meant to type hobos


/hungover

This kind of thinking makes me ill. Just sick.

Punish everyone because a few can't help themselves. Booze and smokes cost so much here in Canada, it's a wonder we can afford [legal] recreational drugs.

I pay $40 for 24 domestic beer here. If only it wasn't so delicious...

I love the Daily Mail comments on these types of stories. If the government is giving more drinking freedoms such as licenses for 24 hour openings, then it is encouraging yob culture and underage binge drinking. If it's doing something to stop binge drinking then it is the "nanny state gone mad!"

When you have a bias against a government and always think the opposite of what they are doing is right, you find that you have to change your own position on a subject so that you can maintain that.

/There is too much tax on stuff.
//I'll believe that nomatter who raises taxes!

Eat The Placenta: it's that type of thinking that birthed america and lost you the ensuing war.

This!!!

What's the word? Thunderbird!
What's the price? A dollar twice!
What's the reaction? SATISFACTION!

We tried that already... Raising the price of gasoline 200% didn't stop Americans from driving so much.

... and driving isn't a compulsion.

/or is it?
//I'd better drive over to my therapists place and ask

Yes, it is called keeping booze away from poor people and minorities. It will lead to people making their own, just like banning it altogether does. It will also lead to more people stealing it. Some people will switch to drinks with higher concentrations of alcohol, while others will switch to drugs as they become comparitively priced or even cheaper than alcohol.

Of course, these are just predictions because we have no body of historical evidence to look back on and help determine how this will work.

People will just give up other things, like toothpaste.

I know a lot of drunks, and raising prices will not deter a person from buying booze.

Look at tobacco. 'Nuff said

You know, it's this sort of reactionary BS that has been the norm in the UK since the early 90s. It's total and utter crap, and I'm gobsmacked that the Brits keep putting up with this sort of shiat. Grow a pair already. Government through uber-legislation is not the answer. You guys grumble about it but you still let the bastards get away with it.

Oh, and Pixelvision is right - the Daily Fail sucks.

/lived in the UK from 1980 till the late 90s
//It went to hell in a handbasket after Blair got into power

Before the 2oth Amendment fans chime in I have to ask..

Have you ever seen a person really hit with a drink?

I mean a human being doing shots with deadly force.

Just wondering...

Pixelvision: When you have a bias against a government and always think the opposite of what they are doing is right, you find that you have to change your own position on a subject so that you can maintain that.

I'd be lying like a politician if I didn't admit my bias against government, but any time something gets repealed so the net result is an increase in individual liberty, I don't utter a peep of protest. That said, the instances where that actually happens are so rare as to not even be worth mentioning. The trend is overwhelmingly in the other direction--you'd have to lie like a politician to deny it.

Enough with the positive liberalism PLEASE. Some light guidance that enhances everyone's lives is great, but this is just bananas.

Raise the price of food while you're at it, so Brits won't be fat slobs.

"sin taxes" are horseshiat. Just another way for the nanny state to take our money.

Even if the supermarkets raised booze prices by 50%, it would still be cheaper than pub prices. I love pubs as much as the next man, but the average cost of pint is over £3 now, and in some places creeping up to £5 a pint!! Although most places which charge that amount are usually filled with people I despise so there's that at least.


/going to off-licence

I'm not surprised the Brits want to do this, the Nanny State is quite popular these days. For example, here in Madison, Wisconsin the downtown "neighborhood association; Capitol Neighborhoods is trying to get the city to require bars to raise their prices by 20%

It's time to take our country(s) back from the prudes before we find ourselves living someplace that looks like the set of Farenheit 451. I can just hear it now: "hello Montag..."

Lobster_of_Hate: Before the 2oth Amendment fans chime in I have to ask..

Have you ever seen a person really hit with a drink?

I mean a human being doing shots with deadly force.

Just wondering...

21st Amendment?

People drink. They also smoke, snort and shoot. Threats from Big Brother have done absolutely nothing to change this. What makes any of those things the government's concern anyway?

While you may not feel this way specifically, people generally seem to (idiotically) see their interests as being aligned with the State. While they might be right short-term in an era where most of them are net-recipients of government largesse, a much better depiction of the relationship between productive people and the State is one of host and parasite.

I don't need a minder any more than I need something sucking the lifeblood out of me.

I was over to England a few weeks ago and on one of the commuter trains I was reading a newspaper article about how it costs more to go out for a night at the pub over there now than it costs to tweak out on coke. +1 you limey bastards! No taxation without repre... you get the idea.


/had a great time
//good luck getting food at teatime
///weather sucked ass
////slashies!//

Raise the price of food while you're at it, so Brits won't be fat slobs.

Jeez, don't give them ideas...

Eat The Placenta: it's that type of thinking that birthed america and lost you the ensuing war.

Isn't that the kind of thinking that got your ass beaten out of Canada, and the White house burned to the ground in the 1812 war ?

That's unfortunate. It's not like they have anything to do but get plastered over there.

$12 case of beer
case = 24 cans

/Kentucky

LittleSmitty: I know a lot of drunks, and raising prices will not deter a person from buying booze.

Look at tobacco. 'Nuff said

No shiat.

/tobacco "addict"
//WTF IS UP WITH THE UK?
///slashies for the Queen, who had more balls during WWII than all of the current Parliament combined

Isn't that the kind of thinking that got your ass beaten out of Canada, and the White house burned to the ground in the 1812 war ?

Calm down, boy. We hear you got oil up there...

U.S. legal drinking age - 21
U.K. legal drinking age - 18

Who's the nanny state?

Purple_Jack: U.S. legal drinking age - 21
U.K. legal drinking age - 18

Who's the nanny state?

Steady on, old boy. There's places in the UK where they're trying out a raised minimum drinking age (somewhere near Lanark, IIRC). Don't be surprised to see them raise it country-wide soon.

/I pay $9.99 for a 1.75l of Albertson's brand Vodak. That's like 25p.
//suck it

Philly_gp: Its a hobbies dream!

This wont change a damn thing. fark nanny/schoolmarm shiat like this. We have it in New Zealand too. fark Helen Clark.

As long as the Leffe stays at £1.07 I don't care.. If you're going to Asda (Walmart) for Supies, then tough..

Best beer on the planet (new window)

I could show you sources from as far back as the 1830s that point out how much brits drink (a favourite is one from 1880 that points out brits have less money than yanks and drink on average twice as much) - I'm sensing raising prices isn't quite going to stop us now

one right wing issue that will break a government is this, as much derision of the drinking and 'yob' culture as there is, i'm not so sure about the silent majority - putting prices up pisses people off

lotustuned

"Isn't that the kind of thinking that got your ass beaten out of Canada, and the White house burned to the ground in the 1812 war ?"

you failed to provide an example of what you're talking about.

what thinking? becoming an independent nation from a tyrannical empire?

Eat The Placenta

Tyrannical empire my arse.. as much as you like to think of your wars of independance as some ideological strive towards freedom that no other nation has ever taken, the reality is that your wars of independance were a sideshow in a greater British social rebellion..

The "American" forces consisted of mainly British expats, a third of whom were Ulster Scots (for most of the 16th, 17th and 18th century considered the most formidable armed force in the world - thanks mainly to the service of Scots regiments in Flanders during the many stages of the Reformation).

Worth noting that at the time of the English Civil War, the Scots Army were widely regarded as the most potent force in the world ( without whose support, Cromwell would've been crushed).

The notion that the American Wars of Independance were more than an extended theatre of the general politics of the time is ludicrous.

Shame that a lot of Americans seem to forget their real roots and prefer to masturbate to the absurd fantasy that they were part of some sort of romantic glorified crusade against the crown.

There's obviously a bit of loss-leading going on by the supermarkets, my good value-benchmark of 8 cans of satiscraptory beer for £5 has remained static since 1997 despite the effects of inflation.

brits have cheap booze?

Go drink to France, then.

/What?
//Stop looking at me like that!
///And throw away your clubs! I'm not a pinata!

TheDogsBollox 2008-04-05 04:31:45 PM
As long as the Leffe stays at £1.07 I don't care.. If you're going to Asda (Walmart) for Supies, then tough..

Best beer on the planet (new window)


Mmmmmmm - Leffe - 4.50 a pint at the pub - well worth the price.

TheDogsBollox: Eat The Placenta

Tyrannical empire my arse.. as much as you like to think of your wars of independance as some ideological strive towards freedom that no other nation has ever taken, the reality is that your wars of independance were a sideshow in a greater British social rebellion..

The "American" forces consisted of mainly British expats, a third of whom were Ulster Scots (for most of the 16th, 17th and 18th century considered the most formidable armed force in the world - thanks mainly to the service of Scots regiments in Flanders during the many stages of the Reformation).

Worth noting that at the time of the English Civil War, the Scots Army were widely regarded as the most potent force in the world ( without whose support, Cromwell would've been crushed).

The notion that the American Wars of Independance were more than an extended theatre of the general politics of the time is ludicrous.

Shame that a lot of Americans seem to forget their real roots and prefer to masturbate to the absurd fantasy that they were part of some sort of romantic glorified crusade against the crown.

Suck it limey.

Eat The Placenta: lotustuned

"Isn't that the kind of thinking that got your ass beaten out of Canada, and the White house burned to the ground in the 1812 war ?"

you failed to provide an example of what you're talking about.

what thinking? becoming an independent nation from a tyrannical empire?


It's strange how tyrannical the British empire was when it had freed American slaves fighting for it during your revolutionary war, yet as far as i remember "n****es" were only worth what, a third of a "real" person in the glorious "free" republic of the United States. It's also strange how a good part of the fledgling US population feld to Canada after the revolutionary wars end because they were loyal to this "tyrannical" empire. As for what i was talking about before, i'd suggest that you have a look for a war that occured in 1812 and included Canada, and the main reason as to why the White house is painted white.