Oh my, that's priceless.

Well..since this is green, I shall ask, does this mean superduper delegates can spawn more delegates so no matter what voters say, things can be arranged anyway the party/powers/dark wizards want?

/me thinks it does.
//mmmm, super duper delegates spawning super delegates goodness

GaryPDX: Well..since this is green, I shall ask, does this mean superduper delegates can spawn more delegates so no matter what voters say, things can be arranged anyway the party/powers/dark wizards want?

/me thinks it does.
//mmmm, super duper delegates spawning super delegates goodness

well, i suppose to a degree. it's limited by the number of these people and the number of supers they can choose, meaning things can only be arranged any way the dark wizards want up to a certain point.

burndtdan: GaryPDX: Well..since this is green, I shall ask, does this mean superduper delegates can spawn more delegates so no matter what voters say, things can be arranged anyway the party/powers/dark wizards want?

/me thinks it does.
//mmmm, super duper delegates spawning super delegates goodness

well, i suppose to a degree. it's limited by the number of these people and the number of supers they can choose, meaning things can only be arranged any way the dark wizards want up to a certain point.

Sounds like a mess and more complicated for Denver.

Did you know that if you hacked a superdelegate to pieces, each piece grows into another superdelegate?

The Democrats are very sensitive that it's called the "Democratic" party (a la, the Democratic People's Republic of China). They get pissy if you say the Democrat party.

Of course, it's a misnomer, a mis-statement, a lie. A truly democratic organization could never have Superdelegates.

/Anyway, these days democrat or republican is just hair splitting. There is only one party -Government.

I am a fallen-away Republican and an Obama supporter. If the Dems were trying to disgust me out of becoming a Democrat, they hardly could do a better job.

It is completely obvious to everyone other than racists and bitter Menopausal-Americans that Hillary is the least electable of the three candidates. The party leaders need to grow some balls, tell Hillary to shut up and go home, and JUST END THIS CRAP before they blow the general election.

bronyaur1: I am a fallen-away Republican and an Obama supporter. If the Dems were trying to disgust me out of becoming a Democrat, they hardly could do a better job.

It is completely obvious to everyone other than racists and bitter Menopausal-Americans that Hillary is the least electable of the three candidates. The party leaders need to grow some balls, tell Hillary to shut up and go home, and JUST END THIS CRAP before they blow the general election.

Tell me about it. We finally have a potential candidate that I can get excited about and the party's going to fark it the hell up.

I think it is elitist that they don't let all party members spawn extra votes.

Diogenes: Tell me about it. We finally have a potential candidate that I can get excited about and the party's going to fark it the hell up.

What's funny is that all those Hillary supporters seem to forget the history lesson of 1984.



And Hillary even used Mondale's 3AM commercial idea!

bronyaur1: I am a fallen-away Republican and an Obama supporter. If the Dems were trying to disgust me out of becoming a Democrat, they hardly could do a better job.

It is completely obvious to everyone other than racists and bitter Menopausal-Americans that Hillary is the least electable of the three candidates. The party leaders need to grow some balls, tell Hillary to shut up and go home, and JUST END THIS CRAP before they blow the general election.

i'd say just be patient. there will be a trickle of superdelegates voicing their support of obama heading into the next few primaries and it will be over long before the convention.

they could step in and act now, but they are using to their advantage. this primary is driving record voter registration. they are trying to balance between avoiding crippling themselves by defacing their candidate, and crippling themselves by stifling the record interest.

they're also hoarding the media coverage. mccain is barely getting mentioned. so long as they keep from going negative (which it seems like they might have made that clear to hillary), obama will come out of the primaries with a LOT of positive press and record numbers of registered voters that will vote for him.

Etchy333: And Hillary even used Mondale's 3AM commercial idea!

Yeah, but she's sneakier than Mondale. I've been saying that if she can keep it up till convention, her true dark political powers will be unleashed. She's got more connections, potential for extortion (knows the secrets) and bribes than Obama.

That's the other side of the "I don't trust her" coin.

Etchy333: Diogenes: Tell me about it. We finally have a potential candidate that I can get excited about and the party's going to fark it the hell up.

What's funny is that all those Hillary supporters seem to forget the history lesson of 1984.

And Hillary even used Mondale's 3AM commercial idea!

that's why i laugh every time someone tries to say obama is the next mondale. it's hillary all the way.

Yay!

Democracy and fairness...it's what the Democratic Party is built upon.

Oh, wait...

Etchy333: Diogenes: Tell me about it. We finally have a potential candidate that I can get excited about and the party's going to fark it the hell up.

What's funny is that all those Hillary supporters seem to forget the history lesson of 1984.



And Hillary even used Mondale's 3AM commercial idea!

and let the record reflect Mondale only won Minnesota by %0.2

Diogenes: Did you know that if you hacked a superdelegate to pieces, each piece grows into another superdelegate?

Also, never get a superdelegate wet, and never, ever feed them after midnight.

Diogenes: Did you know that if you hacked a superdelegate to pieces, each piece grows into another superdelegate?


My command unit of superdelegates is ready for duty.

What's interesting to me is how Hillary goes on and on about making sure everyone's vote counts, but her only path to the nomination is if the superdelegates override the results of everyone's vote.

Unless I'm missing something. Help me out here...

Tell me, why is Ted Kennedy (the killer of Mary Jo Kopekney) voting for Obama when the people of Massachusetts voted for Hillary?

/

That answers a question I had about Akira: Tetsuo was a superduperdelegate, while Masaru, Takashi, and Kiyoko were simply your garden-variety "superdelegates".

You know who else delegated those breeds most super to have more control and spawn over lesser citizens?

Supreme delegates unimpressed.

Among superdelegates accountable (by the ballot box) to the people... Senators, Representatives, and Governors... Obama is ahead 101 to 96.

Among superdelegates who are party hacks (DNC, etc) and are very difficult to remove? Clinton is ahead 150 to 115.

Dear DNC:

If you don't completely get rid of superdelegates and all that bullshiat by next election, I'm bailing, regardless of whether "my" choice gets the nomination. It's a hypocritical and pointless process that only cheapens the word "democratic," and you've already done a lot to cheapen it already.

Sincerely,
Many of your party.

pudding7: What's interesting to me is how Hillary goes on and on about making sure everyone's vote counts, but her only path to the nomination is if the superdelegates override the results of everyone's vote.

Unless I'm missing something. Help me out here...

Yes, you left out how Obama is trying to keep the later states from voting, while putting huge effort into registering new Dem voters.

pudding7: What's interesting to me is how Hillary goes on and on about making sure everyone's vote counts, but her only path to the nomination is if the superdelegates override the results of everyone's vote.

Unless I'm missing something. Help me out here...

Because if she loses a pledged delegate, that delegate didn't matter.

Because if she loses in a caucus, caucuses are unfair.

Because if she loses the popular vote, it's the delegate count that matter.

Because if she loses the delegate count, it's the popular vote that matters.

Because if she wins less states, it's the size of the states she's won that matters.

You would need an advanced degrees in topology and symbolic logic to make sense of her pretzel logic. Whatever works for her today is good. What's not is irrelevant.

pudding7: What's interesting to me is how Hillary goes on and on about making sure everyone's vote counts, but her only path to the nomination is if the superdelegates override the results of everyone's vote.

Unless I'm missing something. Help me out here...

Some states were all-or-none for delegates and some weren't.

Simplest Quantum System Conceivable: Yes, you left out how Obama is trying to keep the later states from voting, while putting huge effort into registering new Dem voters.

Obama is trying to prevent the later states from voting? How is he doing that? Isn't he campaigning in Penn. and Indiana?

sarek_smile: Tell me, why is Ted Kennedy (the killer of Mary Jo Kopekney) voting for Obama when the people of Massachusetts voted for Hillary?

/

Hadn't thought about that.
I guess becuase he can?

Il Douchey: A truly democratic organization could never have Superdelegates.

The GOP has a similar setup. But they don't call them superdelegates.

Oh, and trolls such as yourself are worthless pieces of shiat.

moops: Il Douchey: A truly democratic organization could never have Superdelegates.

The GOP has a similar setup. But they don't call them superdelegates.

Oh, and trolls such as yourself are worthless pieces of shiat.

The GOP doesn't call itself the Democratic party though. They are really more like a republic. :)

muck4doo: I think it is elitist that they don't let all party members spawn extra votes.

no one caers what you think. ;-)

pudding7: Simplest Quantum System Conceivable: Yes, you left out how Obama is trying to keep the later states from voting, while putting huge effort into registering new Dem voters.

Obama is trying to prevent the later states from voting? How is he doing that? Isn't he campaigning in Penn. and Indiana?

He's not trying to prevent them from voting, but Clinton's been on-air in the later states telling them just that.

Obama is trying to prevent the later states from voting? How is he doing that? Isn't he campaigning in Penn. and Indiana?

Dean is doing his best to make sure none of the remaining states have a voice including FL and MI. Obama has obviously bribed Dean with a cabinet position, since no superdelegate in his right mind would cast their support for the person who is ahead in popular votes, delegates and states won.

Ah, got it. My sarcasm meter has been on the fritz lately.

Simplest Quantum System Conceivable: He's not trying to prevent them from voting, but Clinton's been on-air in the later states telling them just that.

Nothing more pathetic than a privileged white woman trying to convince people the black guy's trying to disenfranchise them.

If the DNC allows the Florida votes to stand as they are, *I* will feel disenfranchised. Hell, I already do.

Look, I don't hate Hillary. I'm an Obama supporter through and through, but I'd vote for Clinton if she was the nominee, and I think she'd probably make a better president than many Democratic nominees in my lifetime.

All that being said - she's done. Finished. Toast. She isn't going to be the nominee; no way, no how. Now, I understand why the press continues to act as though she has a theoretical chance of pulling out the nomination, because it's good for business. And I understand why many within the party (and not just her supporters) continue to act as though she has a theoretical chance of pulling out the nomination, because it's creating drama and excitement and helping Obama to build an enormous database of contributors and volunteers which he can draw upon for the general election campaign.

But what I don't understand is why anyone here, among the people who supposedly are politically savvy and aware, continue to act as though she has a theoretical chance of pulling out the nomination. Can anyone explain that to me?

from a must-read of PA Hillary supporter idiotic quotes

"It's like our votes don't count," said Ms. Vizzini, the equipment operator. "I'm not for it."

(When told that the superdelegates constituted Mrs. Clinton's best chance of becoming the nominee, she amended her statement: "Then I'm for it.")

*groan*

Muck4Doo

So, Ted Kendedy can disregard the will of the people of Massachusettes and vote as a Super delegate for Hillary, because he can?

That sounds awfully un-Democratic

.

Etchy333: Diogenes: Tell me about it. We finally have a potential candidate that I can get excited about and the party's going to fark it the hell up.

What's funny is that all those Hillary supporters seem to forget the history lesson of 1984.

And Hillary even used Mondale's 3AM commercial idea!

And his farkin' piss poor VP candidate.

I can't believe we are where we are and she's even contending that's she's still a contender.

The only way this doesn't turn into a convention bloodbath is if Obama is caught with a dead girl or a live boy, and Hillary could have suspended her campaign a month ago and still get the nom-nom-nomination at that point, and saved a whole lot of money.

The only other way she's taking the nom-nom-nomination is convincing the pledged delegates to go against their pledged votes, and using the superdelegates to overturn the decision of the most states, most raw primary votes, current pledged delegate count, etc. A bloodbath. I won't say that it'd be as bad as 1968, or that there'd be riots, but there might be.

PROUD

This will be one hell of a convention.

mercator_psi: Dear DNC:

If you don't completely get rid of superdelegates and all that bullshiat by next election, I'm bailing, regardless of whether "my" choice gets the nomination. It's a hypocritical and pointless process that only cheapens the word "democratic," and you've already done a lot to cheapen it already.

Sincerely,
Many of your party.

Hopefully this will the silver lining in this election. I reffuse to call them the Democratic Party until they fix this. Despotcrat will be their name if Hillary somehow gets the nom.

Simplest Quantum System Conceivable: from a must-read of PA Hillary supporter idiotic quotes


oopsie. I got confused. This is the one with multiple idiotic Hillary supporter quotes.


Of Obama, Duser said: "I'm not crazy about voting for a colored guy, but that's not why I don't support Obama. I'm not prejudiced. I just like Hillary."

A couple tables over, Jean Fetterman, a foster grandparent, said of Clinton: "Oh, I love her. She's a very intelligent person, and she has her husband who went through this."

She scoffs at the idea of voting for Obama: "I don't want to be a Muslim!" She looks dubious when told Obama is Christian. "Then why did he go see what's-his-name over in Iraq, that Lama?"

sarek_smile2008-04-04 02:58:13 PM
So, Ted Kendedy can disregard the will of the people of Massachusettes and vote as a Super delegate for Hillary, because he can?
That sounds awfully un-Democratic

It was Hillary's suggestion that the supers don't necessarily need to follow the will of the voters.

FreudulentSplit: I won't say that it'd be as bad as 1968, or that there'd be riots, but there might be.

I don't think it would be that bad but it would cause a lot of people to drop the party by not voting in Dem primaries or contributing money. Those leaving probably wouldn't vote Republican but would most likely just not vote and with the elections as close as they have been thats almost the same thing.

My favorite part of that article was the google map pinpointing Washington DC.

moops: Oh, and trolls such as yourself are worthless pieces of shiat.

I'm not a troll, and I'm worth more than you - I'm TOTAL Fark!

/Silly boy -do you really think you can hurt real feelings with internet insults?

Simplest Quantum System Conceivable: Simplest Quantum System Conceivable: from a must-read of PA Hillary supporter idiotic quotes


oopsie. I got confused. This is the one with multiple idiotic Hillary supporter quotes.


Of Obama, Duser said: "I'm not crazy about voting for a colored guy, but that's not why I don't support Obama. I'm not prejudiced. I just like Hillary."

A couple tables over, Jean Fetterman, a foster grandparent, said of Clinton: "Oh, I love her. She's a very intelligent person, and she has her husband who went through this."

She scoffs at the idea of voting for Obama: "I don't want to be a Muslim!" She looks dubious when told Obama is Christian. "Then why did he go see what's-his-name over in Iraq, that Lama?"

. . . .

*Head Asplode*

Christ on a motherfarking crutch, I am sick and tired of the media "discovering" things which have been out in the goddamn open for a year. If they looked this shiat up in late January, when it became clear this race was not going to be over quickly, they would've realized this crap has been around.