I'm more surprised that Alan Keyes is still running apparently.

RedDyeNumber4: I'm more surprised that Alan Keyes is still running apparently.

He is??? Now there's an exercise in futility. Even if he did win by some miracle, didn't Obama already beat the crap out of him once?

Empanda

Yeah, he is, and yeah, it is, and yeah, he did.

I keep trying to wrap my head around it. He's apparently won zero delegates.

as a PA democrat I can't wait to cross party lines and vote for Ron Paul. Operation Chaos indeed.

because he is right and actually cares more about us then we care about him

/still has bumper sticker
//still has yard sign
/// Georgia Primary long ago and far away
////still slashing for Ron Paul

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for strict constitutional government, an end to foreign wars of aggression fought on behalf of the jews illuminati elites "banking cartels", an end to racism, abortions, schools, high taxes and werewolves.

Not voting for Ron Paul is even crazier than Ron Paul.

I thought they preferred to be called the Paulistinian people?

At least Ron Paul is out there still fighting for his ideas. I mean look at all the things you can support by voting for him:

* Restoration of civil liberties!
* Ability to carry all my guns on planes! Wait, what?
* Defeat of the international cabal that is planning a 45-lane superhighway and a merger of the US with Mexico and Canada! Ok, what the hell are you talking about.
* An end to abortions! An amendment to ban gay marriage! Wait a sec, that's not very libertarian...
* A return to the gold standard! Fark this man, I'm out.

Crazy conspiracy theories in 08!

/Ron Paul
//Ron Paul
///Ron Paul
//Ron Paul
/Ron Paul

These Ron Paul threads just ain't what they used to be...

I'll be voting for Dr. No on the 22nd, seeing as the GOP doesn't have any other decently conservative candidate left in the race. John McCain can take his amnesty programs and political speech regulation and suck it.

Empanda: RedDyeNumber4: I'm more surprised that Alan Keyes is still running apparently.

He is??? Now there's an exercise in futility. Even if he did win by some miracle, didn't Obama already beat the crap out of him once?

Yes, but the shocking thing was at the time, that Keyes somehow managed to get a few votes. Somewhere around 10% as I recall.

Which was about 10% higher than anticipated.

I wonder how well he would've done if he'd spent all that money when he still had a snowball's chance?

luckybastard: These Ron Paul threads just ain't what they used to be...

Dammed if we do defend him, and damned if we don't, eh?

Hey, whatever happened to that blimp? Does he still have it?

Gordon Bennett: Empanda: RedDyeNumber4: I'm more surprised that Alan Keyes is still running apparently.

He is??? Now there's an exercise in futility. Even if he did win by some miracle, didn't Obama already beat the crap out of him once?

Yes, but the shocking thing was at the time, that Keyes somehow managed to get a few votes. Somewhere around 10% 27% as I recall.

Which was about 10% 27% higher than anticipated.


FTFY

Rev. Skarekroe: I wonder how well he would've done if he'd spent all that money when he still had a snowball's chance?

As somebody that donated to his campaign, I'm hoping that once all the states are done with their primaries, he uses the rest to buy hookers and blow, and alot of beer & BBQ. Just throw a little 'thank you' party for his supporters.

/well it'd be nice to at least get SOMETHING out of that money.

Pfft.

If Ron Paul wanted to raise money, he should have made it by himself. Not asking people for a handout for money.

Have a bakesale or something. Hell, at least people got something out of it.

Somewhere, one of the voices in his head is saying "Haha! Im just like the government! You gave me all your money and you got jack shiat in return!"

State_College_Arsonist: I'll be voting for Dr. No on the 22nd,

Might as well vote for Fred Thompson or Father Guido Sarducci. What's the point?

hej:

/well it'd be nice to at least get SOMETHING out of that money.

You mean those spray-painted "rEVOLution" signs weren't enough?

/Saw the Rondenberg flying over Martinsville Speedway last October. Safe to say he was doing it wrong.

syrynxx: Might as well vote for Fred Thompson or Father Guido Sarducci. What's the point?

-The only people still on the ballot in Pennsylvania are McCain, Paul and Huckabee, so I don't exactly have a lot of options. I would vote for Fred Thompson as a sort of protest vote, but Pennsylvania has a bad habit of leaving write-in votes out of the official election results. Voting for Ron Paul is the only sure way to ensure that my protest vote is even counted.

/Likes Paul
//Wants a Tank

When you are the leader of a movement any ink or media coverage leads to converts and money.
At this point why would he want to quit it's all upside and no downside.
Me I smell Jackboots and polish. Not him but movements have been hijacked before.
People don't always know whats behind what they support.
A lot of groups that start with America and Freedom are shills for Communist Party politics and most supporters don't even know a Communist from Santa Clause.

larry00: When you are the leader of a movement any ink or media coverage leads to converts and money.
At this point why would he want to quit it's all upside and no downside.
Me I smell Jackboots and polish. Not him but movements have been hijacked before.
People don't always know whats behind what they support.
A lot of groups that start with America and Freedom are shills for Communist Party politics and most supporters don't even know a Communist from Santa Clause.

This.

Dynascape: Somewhere, one of the voices in his head is saying "Haha! Im just like the government! You gave me all your money and you got jack shiat in return!"

I don't give the government shiat. They take it under threat of force. That's a not so subtle difference.

Well you never know, McCain could get hit by a bus full of retirees on their way to the casino. Or a bolt of lightning might strike while he's out golfing in the rain. Not that I want something like that to happen. I'm just sayin' that a little bit of insanity is required to understand Paul's campaign strategy.

Last weekend I drove across the state twice and was freaking amazed by the number of Ron Paul signs. And when I took my grandmother to her local firehouse's turkey dinner, er, lunch, there were quite a few Ron Paul supporters canvassing.

Tilting at windmills? You bet. But hey, more power to them. That party needs some serious house cleaning.

/ My grandmother's going for Obama
// didn't have to tell her a blessed thing to make her think that way

FarkingFarkers: I don't give the government shiat. They take it under threat of force. That's a not so subtle difference.

You are allowed to leave. Nothing is forcing you to remain in the current situation.

hej: luckybastard: These Ron Paul threads just ain't what they used to be...

Dammed if we do defend him, and damned if we don't, eh?



Three months ago, a Ron Paul thread would have 300 comments already...

Meh, cheering for the continuing efforts of Paul and his cult is a little like cheering for your favorite mongoloid at the Special Olympics. Yes, it's nice to see them making an effort, and it's good to seem them get outdoors once in a while but seriously, nothing is being accomplished here no mater how hard you spin it.

/and yes, I hate America and the Constitution, happy? Now go get your little trophy mongo.

HitInTheJunk

You're worse than albo

DIAF.

Bag of Hammers: Meh, cheering for the continuing efforts of Paul and his cult is a little like cheering for your favorite mongoloid at the Special Olympics. Yes, it's nice to see them making an effort, and it's good to seem them get outdoors once in a while but seriously, nothing is being accomplished here no mater how hard you spin it.

/and yes, I hate America and the Constitution, happy? Now go get your little trophy mongo.

Some of the Ron Paul-ites Ive dealt with get really confused when I talk about how their thoughts on government have more in common with contemporary Anarchist theory than most of the mainstream political parties.

But Anarchist is such a vilified word, they hate hearing it.

Libertarian is just an Anarchist in Politically Correct clothing.

larry00
A lot of groups that start with America and Freedom are shills for Communist Party politics

What the fark are you yammering on about, Senator McCarthy? "Reds under the beds"!? Seriously?!?!

Three Cheers for misinterpreting Ron Paul's policies!

And then making fun of them on Fark!

Hooray!

Dynascape: Libertarian is just an Anarchist in Politically Correct clothing.

*sigh*

Go Fast Turn Left: hej:

/well it'd be nice to at least get SOMETHING out of that money.

You mean those spray-painted "rEVOLution" signs weren't enough?

/Saw the Rondenberg flying over Martinsville Speedway last October. Safe to say he was doing it wrong.

My spidey senses tell me that RP's campaign dollars didn't pay for the spray painted bed sheets and floor boards.

Because you know, there will be no close votes at the convention other then the nomination where he might be able to affect the direction of the party.

turboeli:
/ My grandmother's going for Obama
// didn't have to tell her a blessed thing to make her think that way
----
No, the media did that for you both.
----
ME_GRIMLOCK: I'm just sayin' that a little bit of insanity is required to understand Paul's campaign strategy.
----
No, just Hope for America.
What is insane is people voting for gender or race with the country in such turmoil, and not voting for American ideals... which would put Ron Paul out in front.

What's really insane is anyone who would vote for McCain at all.

The Corporate America Media may control your vote, but they don't control those who have independent thought and reason... and vote for Ron Paul.
For that they have Diebold.

Before I leave to go to work for a job I may not have much longer due to this economy, I just have to say....

Ron Paul!

Ron Paul Revere: He's got millions of campaign money left to spend that can only be spent in the primary and for no other purpose. I'd be damned ashamed to have ever supported him if he did anything else.

Oh, and a BIG f*ck you to all those who were saying "lolz you stupid Paultards, he'z gon' give 'dat dere money to the GOP."

Morons. You didn't know anything about the man and you still don't.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but there will be about $4Mil that will go to LibertyPAC

Jaykzo: Three Cheers for misinterpreting Ron Paul's policies!

And then making fun of them on Fark!

Hooray!



Hooray! I got Ron Paul! Hooray!!!!!

I guess that's the reason they haven't removed all the damn stickers Paul supporters plastered all over public and private property. It really warms my libertarian innards when I see a Ron Paul sticker on a street or business sign.

HitInTheJunk: At least Ron Paul is out there still fighting for his ideas. I mean look at all the things you can support by voting for him:

* Restoration of civil liberties!
* Ability to carry all my guns on planes! Wait, what?
* Defeat of the international cabal that is planning a 45-lane superhighway and a merger of the US with Mexico and Canada! Ok, what the hell are you talking about.
* An end to abortions! An amendment to ban gay marriage! Wait a sec, that's not very libertarian...
* A return to the gold standard! Fark this man, I'm out.

Crazy conspiracy theories in 08!

/Ron Paul
//Ron Paul
///Ron Paul
//Ron Paul
/Ron Paul

A raving lunatic.

*Guns on Planes: what are you scared of? Not being able to take one over with a plastic knife? I'm not saying we need them, but why do we need Federal regulations banning them? Can't Airports and Airlines work on those problems, while the FAA works to defend the interests of the citizens in the Air travel industry?

*US/Mexico Shipping relations: We are opening our freeways to unregulated Mexican Trucking without even proper border security, while tightening the regulations on American Truckers. The American truckers (like the American factories) will no longer be able to compete.

Whether that leads to a "NAU" is up to debate, but we definitely are adopting policy that favors "international trade" over the solvency of the American Economy (on every level).

*Abortion/Gay Marriage: Until there is a Constitutional Amendment regarding these issues, it is up to the state. That is Ron Paul's position, and he is not running on the platform of gaining support for any such Amendments. But please use those as your excuses to not vote for him.

*Gold Standard. You are scared of this why? And again, Paul's platform didn't call for this, but for competing currencies. If you care to learn, you can see what his Financial Plan (new window - 3c refers to Gold/Silver) is. He merely wants to reclassify gold coins from collectibles to legal tender, and why is that batshiat insane?


I believe I've refuted all of your objections to Ron Paul.

I share your disdain with Ron Paul supporters who can do nothing but Spam his name, get his arguments wrong, whine about 911, and assume the worst about every conspiracy theory they hear. They do not speak for the candidate, nor the majority of his support.

F Wonkette!

/gatekeeper

Apparently y'all aren't aware of the hilarious things Paul delegates are pulling at Republican conventions from the county level up. They're taking over county parties and sending pro-Paul delegates to higher levels - way more delegates than the 42 he was predicted to have.

luckybastard

Three months ago, a Ron Paul thread would have 300 comments already...

Before Iowa and NH there was no shortage of people predicting anywhere between victory and 25% of the popular vote. With a lot of talk about polls and how they didn't work in 'the Internet age' or some such nonsense.

iawai

Abortion/Gay Marriage: Until there is a Constitutional Amendment regarding these issues, it is up to the state. That is Ron Paul's position, and he is not running on the platform of gaining support for any such Amendments. But please use those as your excuses to not vote for him.

When a politician looks like a duck social reactionary, talks like a duck social reactionary and swims like a duck proposes laws to further the cause of social reactionaries, odds are he's a duck social reactionary.

You need an amendment to guarantee the rights of consenting adults to have sex in their own home? Lawrence v. Texas, and Paul's words against the ruling, will haunt this supposed 'libertarian' forever. Fark Ron Paul and his love reactionary policies when it suits him. Call it 'constitutionalism' all you want, you aren't fooling anyone but yourself.

And I hate how these threads turn into an abortion trainwreck every time. Let's leave it at this: Paul's HR 300 is a frightening example of the legislative trying to prevent the judicial from reviewing the laws created by the legislative. We call that a 'power grab', or at least 'unconstitutional'. A social reactionary in constitutionalist clothing.

/still tries to keep these threads interesting

can someone post the Ron Paul Revolution pic please?

YixilTesiphon: Apparently y'all aren't aware of the hilarious things Paul delegates are pulling at Republican conventions from the county level up. They're taking over county parties and sending pro-Paul delegates to higher levels - way more delegates than the 42 he was predicted to have.

Not just delegates, but candidates for office. We want to change this government from the ground up.

It really is a shame that so many people can be fooled by the two parties sharing power now (new window). People are terrified of having to take responsibility for their own actions and actually having to live with the consequences of their decisions. Instead they'd rather have a nanny-state government who's primary role these days is to be the arbiter between the super rich and everyone else.

Man up, Nancy boy. Learn how to save money and stop buying on credit. Stop taking money out of MY check to pay for your health care, education, welfare, and more tax breaks for the rich. This country is bankrupt and our ridiculous monetary policy and financial system has had ripple effects throughout all levels of society. None of the other candidates can even speak intelligently about the real problems we're going to face in the next 10 years.

If you want to fix the social and financial mess we're in, hire Ron Paul.

/Donated the maximum allowable to Ron Paul's campaign and would do it again.
//All flames > /dev/null

I voted for Ron Paul and was proud to do it. I understood from the beginning that his chances of winning were razor thin at best and I didn't agree with him on everything, but I also understood that he had a chance of sparking a sea change in the Republican party (and maybe everyone's thought process).

There has to be an opposing force in American Politics and I'm proud that I voted for it. Hopefully America can make it through this upcoming economic catastrophe somewhat unscathed and we can continue pressing for change- real change.

Sarcastic Otter: YixilTesiphon: Apparently y'all aren't aware of the hilarious things Paul delegates are pulling at Republican conventions from the county level up. They're taking over county parties and sending pro-Paul delegates to higher levels - way more delegates than the 42 he was predicted to have.

Not just delegates, but candidates for office. We want to change this government from the ground up.

It really is a shame that so many people can be fooled by the two parties sharing power now (new window). People are terrified of having to take responsibility for their own actions and actually having to live with the consequences of their decisions. Instead they'd rather have a nanny-state government who's primary role these days is to be the arbiter between the super rich and everyone else.

Man up, Nancy boy. Learn how to save money and stop buying on credit. Stop taking money out of MY check to pay for your health care, education, welfare, and more tax breaks for the rich. This country is bankrupt and our ridiculous monetary policy and financial system has had ripple effects throughout all levels of society. None of the other candidates can even speak intelligently about the real problems we're going to face in the next 10 years.

If you want to fix the social and financial mess we're in, hire Ron Paul.

/Donated the maximum allowable to Ron Paul's campaign and would do it again.
//All flames > /dev/null

You know.. I heard Somalia is pretty Libertarian.

No fancy healthcare system, no fancy federal government, each province rules itself!

You get to use your rugged individualism to make a life for yourself with no government interference! You can take responsibility for your own actions and not have to worry about the greedy feds taking money from you!

Dynascape: You know.. I heard Somalia is pretty Libertarian.

No fancy healthcare system, no fancy federal government, each province rules itself!

You get to use your rugged individualism to make a life for yourself with no government interference! You can take responsibility for your own actions and not have to worry about the greedy feds taking money from you!

Win.

Yeah, the Randroid philosophy seems to be anathema to this whole concept of "civilization" and "society".

Dynascape: You know.. I heard Somalia is pretty Libertarian.

No fancy healthcare system, no fancy federal government, each province rules itself!

You get to use your rugged individualism to make a life for yourself with no government interference! You can take responsibility for your own actions and not have to worry about the greedy feds taking money from you!

Since you are defining a political philosophy by its extremes, does this mean Republicans are theocrats and Democrats are communists?