And don't you take a ridiculous amount of money from corporations?

Brilliant headline.

Maybe we should kill all the lawyers.

/sorry. that one is obvious.

She was on the board of Wal-Mart before she got close to the White House. You don't get much rapier than that.

+1 for headline Subby

The article was actually pretty interesting. I wasn't aware of many of the things in it that show some of the more positive aspects of Sen. Clinton's past.

However, none of it makes me think she'd be a good president. Admittedly, I am totally behind Obama, so perhaps I am bias. I think she'd be good as senate majority leader though.

+1 subby

Mmmm ... raw and wanting ...

Your Commander in Chief approves
/scary

Empanda: However, none of it makes me think she'd be a good president. Admittedly, I am totally behind Obama, so perhaps I am bias. I think she'd be good as senate majority leader though.

I completely agree. Like most lawyers, she has done her share of pro bono work. It's pretty much required if you're a lawyer. She's very, very good as a senator.

She sort of reminds me of Ted Kennedy (who is also a very, very good senator) running for president. The whispered word was, "Chappaquiddick." Clinton's word is, "Monica."

Gonna keep repeating this until she drops out:

EYE OF THE LIAR

Talkin' 'bout, sniper retreat
All she ducked: Sinbad's glances
Went to Belfast, now she's serving a treat
Just a Dem and her will to connive

So many times, it happens too fast
You pimp your daughter for glory
You lose your grip on the facts of the past
You must fight just to keep them contrived

Chorus:
It's the eye of the Liar, it's the fault of the Right
Risin' up to the challenge of Obama
And the last known survivor answers phones in the night
And she's watchin' us all in the eye of the Liar

Face to face, she's getting beat
Barack wins, drank her milkshake
She wants to live on Pennsylvania Street
For she kills with the skill to contrive

It's the eye of the Liar, it's the fault of the Right
Risin' up to the challenge of Obama
And the last known survivor answers phones in the night
And she's watchin' us all in the eye of the Liar

Not her fault, NAFTA's a flop
Change the facts, change her story
Saw The Youtube, now she's not gonna stop
Just a Dem and her will to contrive

It's the eye of the Liar, it's the fault of the Right
Risin' up to the challenge of Obama
And the last known survivor answers phones in the night
And she's watchin' us all in the eye of the Liar

If she answered that right she could have a winning answer. Instead she avoids answering and becomes more dishonest and unelectable.

I am afraid her admin might have some aspects of the w bush admin.

/Not a troll

Mmmm. You give good headline, Subby

Actually she's right, and not being hypocritical at all. The role of the corporation is to make money. The role of the gevernment is to set the rules.

Actually she's right, and not being hypocritical at all. The role of the corporation is to make money. The role of the gevernment is to set the rules.

Ok but wouldn't a person of strong values and integrity not make money off something that they think is harmful? For my example, I work in the field of chemistry and chemical research. If I knew that a potential company was crossing the line into unethical behaviour merely to increase the bottom line, I couldn't work for them. If Hillary believes the actions of corporations are strongly hurting our country, how can she justify taking a paycheck from those same corportations? That is where the conflict and hypocrisy comes in.

And let's not talk about all that corporate raping her daughter does on her "not really a job" job.

ilambiquated: Actually she's right, and not being hypocritical at all. The role of the corporation is to make money. The role of the gevernment government is to set the rules take as much away as it can.
ftfy

/subby's headline +1 to win!

I think Hillary's a corporate whore and a liar.

SANDY BERGER is on the case."

He is like James Bond, only fatter.

hmmm, all the paychecks I ever recieved were from corporations, never from poor people. enough with the class envy and hatred you skank

gonepostal: hmmm, all the paychecks I ever recieved were from corporations, never from poor people. enough with the class envy and hatred you skank

There are these rare beasts called "small businesses" who employ ten, possibly twelve people in America. About as common as a unicorn orgy, but equally beautiful and majestic.

Occam's Chainsaw: gonepostal: hmmm, all the paychecks I ever recieved were from corporations, never from poor people. enough with the class envy and hatred you skank

There are these rare beasts called "small businesses" who employ ten, possibly twelve people in America. About as common as a unicorn orgy, but equally beautiful and majestic.

Didn't we just have a thread about how Corporation in the US are taxed higher than almost anywhere else includign France?

My understanding is that most of the people employed in this contry work for "small" business not large corporations. Many of these small businesses operate on thin profit margins. Something that seems to be lost on those who lke to jack up the minimum wage, impose things maternal leave and day care plans to punish those "evil corporations". These laws also hit "small" business.
Granted many laws exempt businesses under a certain size however I know of more than one business owner who holds off on expansion plans because the hiring of new peopel puts him into a whole new costly regulatroy bracket. He has to hire additional people just thandle all the paperwork and make sure he stays within the lines just to deal with the act of hiring more people to handle real business.

"I can't be responsible for every under-capitalized small business in America"
Hilary Clinton when questioned about the cost of here Healthcare plan and it simpact on small business.

submitter knocked this one out of the park...hell, the ball hasn't even landed yet.

/Fantastic jerb!

I think the best question for HRC would be.

"Senator Clinton. You were on the board of Wal-Mart from 1986 to 1992. Wal-Mart's imports from China increased by at least 25% each of those years, and quadrupled over that time. What was your reaction and the reaction of the board to the events in Tiananmen Square in 1989?"

Sun God: She sort of reminds me of Ted Kennedy (who is also a very, very good senator) running for president. The whispered word was, "Chappaquiddick." Clinton's word is, "Monica."

I still think the whispered word that would kill her is "Pardons".

hasty ambush: Didn't we just have a thread about how Corporation in the US are taxed higher than almost anywhere else includign France?

My understanding is that most of the people employed in this contry work for "small" business not large corporations. Many of these small businesses operate on thin profit margins. Something that seems to be lost on those who lke to jack up the minimum wage, impose things maternal leave and day care plans to punish those "evil corporations". These laws also hit "small" business.
Granted many laws exempt businesses under a certain size however I know of more than one business owner who holds off on expansion plans because the hiring of new peopel puts him into a whole new costly regulatroy bracket. He has to hire additional people just thandle all the paperwork and make sure he stays within the lines just to deal with the act of hiring more people to handle real business.

"I can't be responsible for every under-capitalized small business in America"
Hilary Clinton when questioned about the cost of here Healthcare plan and it simpact on small business.

I think that whooshing sound would be my point sailing right over your head.

Oh, and fun anecdote: my boss owns about a half-dozen hotels and several other businesses. In order to qualify for all the small business exemptions and protections, he has his 120+ man business broken up into over a dozen different companies. At some locations, two different departments will be two entirely separate companies on the books. I actually have no boss on paper, as my immediate supervisor isn't an employee of my company.

Did I mention how freaking awesome my benefits package he's legally exempted from offering is? No? There's a reason for that.

Occam's Chainsaw: Oh, and fun anecdote: my boss owns about a half-dozen hotels and several other businesses. In order to qualify for all the small business exemptions and protections, he has his 120+ man business broken up into over a dozen different companies. At some locations, two different departments will be two entirely separate companies on the books. I actually have no boss on paper, as my immediate supervisor isn't an employee of my company.

Did I mention how freaking awesome my benefits package he's legally exempted from offering is? No? There's a reason for that.

The boss would like a word...



"You keep your mouth shut. You keep YOUR FUKCING MOUTH SHUT!"

attilathepun-- well done!

/and thanks for putting Survivor in my head, ya big jamoke

Bravo Subby..... Bravo

I don't get it. Why does her lying upset everyone? Isn't that just proving she's presidential material?

Atillathepun
It's the eye of the Liar, it's the fault of the Right
Risin' up to the challenge of Obama
And the last known survivor answers phones in the night
And she's watchin' us all in the eye of the Liar

Explain to me how the hildabeast is the fault of the right. They've been pointing out how full of shiate the Clintons are for the last 15 years. It's hardly their fault that gullible lemmings on the left have kept her in politics.

/or maybe you just had trouble finding a word that rhymes with night

Pine Oil Funeral: Explain to me how the hildabeast is the fault of the right. They've been pointing out how full of shiate the Clintons are for the last 15 years.

If I were to guess, I would say that Clinton is trying to blame all of our current problems on Republicans. Beyond the whole vagina thing, most Clinton supporters (I believe) want to punish conservatives. It's like those who voted for Bush just to see the "liberals!!!" go crazy when he won, but the opposite.

Anyway, that's just my interpretation.

Wal*Mart, China trade bill, F.U. biatch.

An_Innocent_Primate: Pine Oil Funeral: Explain to me how the hildabeast is the fault of the right. They've been pointing out how full of shiate the Clintons are for the last 15 years.

If I were to guess, I would say that Clinton is trying to blame all of our current problems on Republicans. Beyond the whole vagina thing, most Clinton supporters (I believe) want to punish conservatives. It's like those who voted for Bush just to see the "liberals!!!" go crazy when he won, but the opposite.

Anyway, that's just my interpretation.

What do you know, you're just part of the vast, right-wing conspiracy.

It's because she blames every bad thing on the Republicans, including things they very much did not do.

Lawnchair: Sun God: She sort of reminds me of Ted Kennedy (who is also a very, very good senator) running for president. The whispered word was, "Chappaquiddick." Clinton's word is, "Monica."

I still think the whispered word that would kill her is "Pardons".

That's none of your business.

Come on, reporter!

Stop expecting honesty coming from a Democrat politician!!1!

What type of journalism school did you go to anyway?

I'd like to think the best of Senator Clinton, I really would, but I can't bring myself to feel like I trust her. Partially its some of her past history, and partially it's the incredibly stupid gaffes she's been pulling - the dodging snipers comment is just an OMGWTFBBQ level blunder.

It's kind of sad really.

It's funny to watch Hillary being treated like a Republican by the press.

MFL: It's funny to watch Hillary being treated like a Republican by the press.

You mean she's being criticized when her words and reality don't align? How are your precious Republicans treated that is any different from anyone else?

Don't forget she sat on board for Walmart during the time when they defeated labor unions in order to underpay, strip overtime, and reduce/eliminate benefits for their low-level employees. But hey, she's FOR the average worker right?

MFL: It's funny to watch Hillary being treated like a Republican by the press.

well, only so much as she is being treated like someone who says one thing and does something else.

MFL: It's funny to watch Hillary being treated like a Republican by the press.

Yes, they're treating her like a Republican. It can't possibly be that the farking media is not some liberal entity.

Cognitive dissonance abated.

clap-clap-point-thumbs up

"Corporations are raping America, leaving her raw and wanting."

That's about the hottest thing I've read this week, baby. Thanks.

/window, please

MFL: It's funny to watch Hillary being treated like a Republican by the press.


It's called making people responsible for their actions. she's a lying ass so they call her on it. Republicans are lying asses most of the time so they get called on it.

There is no big liberal media conspiracy, it's just the republicans lie a lot more so it seems like it.

NubianzWithAttitude: clap-clap-point-thumbs up

Doublespeak: There is no big liberal media conspiracy, it's just the republicans lie a lot more so it seems like it.

Reality has a strong liberal bias.

Honestly, I'm sick of what the media considers "balance". Balance is not "hearing all sides of the issue". Balance is providing a recounting of the pertinent facts without editorializing.

The media seems to have an allergy to facts these days.

t3knomanser: Doublespeak: There is no big liberal media conspiracy, it's just the republicans lie a lot more so it seems like it.

Reality has a strong liberal bias.

Honestly, I'm sick of what the media considers "balance". Balance is not "hearing all sides of the issue". Balance is providing a recounting of the pertinent facts without editorializing.

The media seems to have an allergy to facts these days.


I felt this was particularly appropriate to your comments...

I watch msnbc/fox news everymorning before work, I kinda flip back and forth, and the truthiness doth flow.

t3knomanser: Balance is not "hearing all sides of the issue". Balance is providing a recounting of the pertinent facts without editorializing.

QFT

At the risk of Godwinning, if you are doing a story about a concentration camp survivor, it is not necessary to provide "balance " by giving text space to a Holocaust-denier kook. That's not "balance," that's giving a pulpit to someone who willingly distorts truth, and equating his statements with reality.

I'd go further to say that balance is provided by presenting pertinent facts without editorializing, and by refusing to omit facts your own personal sensibilities/politics find distasteful. A story can be unbalanced by omission of information just as by inclusion.

/former freelance journalist

BKITU: presenting pertinent facts without editorializing, and by refusing to omit facts your own personal sensibilities/politics find distasteful.

Technically included in "pertinent", but it's probably good to be explicit. All the facts that matter, none of the facts that don't, and don't go leaving stuff out because you don't like it.