The other 19 percent own Bear Sterns stock

I did learn to drive in Britain, but then again I am British. The test is a hell of a lot harder than driving around the block like you do in the states. Plus that driving on the wrong side of the road nonsense and turning right on a red.

RabidDog: The test is a hell of a lot harder than driving around the block like you do in the states.

Seconded.

Though I did have to pretend to parallel-park.

AaaPha: Though I did have to pretend to parallel-park.

Yeah, I farked that up too. They could at least get some junkers in, parking between 2 poles is hardly a real world experience.

Just goes to show you that if you do anything in the name of "society," you are doing it in the name of 70-80%

Suicidal Writer

Just goes to show you that if you do anything in the name of "society," you are doing it in the name of 70-80%


I'd figure closer to 33%

//Yes+No+Don't Care

Meh. We drive on the correct side of the road. The rest of you ARE DOING IT WRONG!1!!

Kill it. Kill it with toothpaste.

I don't think America is heading in the wrong direction.

A direction indicates intelligent control.

Its just wandering aimlessly in circles with breaks every two minutes to catch its breath and to pop a Zoloft.

Fat miserable motherfarkers.

CBS-NYTimes poll? isn't that the same one Joseph Gobbells used to propagate the big lie theory of propaganda?

Now THAT headline made me laugh - out loud even.

Good job smitter.

+1

Jesus OZZ are you actually able to comment in a thread related to America and not be a pooface?

peed
cornflakes
etc

/pooface is a great "word" so shut up :p

OZZ: I don't think America is heading in the wrong direction.

A direction indicates intelligent control.

Its just wandering aimlessly in circles with breaks every two minutes to catch its breath and to pop a Zoloft.

Fat miserable motherfarkers.


Suck my fat, sweaty, Zoloft-tasting balls, square-head!

OZZ: I don't think America is heading in the wrong direction.

A direction indicates intelligent control.

Its just wandering aimlessly in circles with breaks every two minutes to catch its breath and to pop a Zoloft.

Fat miserable motherfarkers.

You say that now, even the Bork-Bork Swedes are kicking your fjord-monkey ass by the way, but wait until we reach the bottom of the business cycle and start rebuilding again. You think we loaded now, wait until the next dictator with a bad haircut invades a foreign land.

/Dubya has kick-ass hair, fark you.
//Prowd 2 B ´mer´can.
///Dey tuuk r jerbs!!!

OZZ: I don't think America is heading in the wrong direction.

A direction indicates intelligent control.

Its just wandering aimlessly in circles with breaks every two minutes to catch its breath and to pop a Zoloft.

Fat miserable motherfarkers.

I LOL'ed! Concise, sir, concise....

I'm reserving judgement (on the US public) for the next general election. How dumb are we?

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
- HL Menckin

what does DIRECTION have to do with it? We drive on different SIDES of the road, going in the SAME DIRECTION

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Nice header subby. +1

CaptainMidnight: OZZ: I don't think America is heading in the wrong direction.

A direction indicates intelligent control.

Its just wandering aimlessly in circles with breaks every two minutes to catch its breath and to pop a Zoloft.

Fat miserable motherfarkers.

I LOL'ed! Concise, sir, concise....

I'm reserving judgement (on the US public) for the next general election. How dumb are we?

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
- HL Menckin

Ok, so what happens 8 years after then?

/Presidential intelligence: it´s like a business cycle. See Gerald Ford, Woodrow Wilson, Rutherford B. Hayes, James K. Polk, etc.

FTA - "The economy has surpassed the war in Iraq as the dominating issue of the U.S. presidential race, and there is now nearly a national consensus that the United States faces significant problems, the poll found."

Uh, two things (in my opinion)... consensus is useless and polls are a joke.

Think for yourself America. As individuals, take a stand for what you believe in. Whether you and I agree/disagree on the popular issues, please don't allow modern-media's hyperbole to sway your informed and/or common sense judgment.

And for God's sake vote.

Richard Saunders: Uh, two things (in my opinion)... consensus is useless and polls are a joke.

Think for yourself America. As individuals, take a stand for what you believe in. Whether you and I agree/disagree on the popular issues, please don't allow modern-media's hyperbole to sway your informed and/or common sense judgment.

And for God's sake vote.

I would like to agree, but apparently, consensus is useless.

Excen: CaptainMidnight:
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
- HL Menckin

Ok, so what happens 8 years after then?

/Presidential intelligence: it´s like a business cycle. See Gerald Ford, Woodrow Wilson, Rutherford B. Hayes, James K. Polk, etc.

I see what you did there...

that 19% is likely infested with those morans who think jesus wants the chaos bush has wrought for his comeback.

seriously. they're out there, walkin' around, mistaking their own twisted inner voice for the voice of god.

Hetfield:
I would like to agree, but apparently, consensus is useless.

It's been my experience that there's a great difference between agreement (on principal and fact) and consensus. I find that consensus, although through the process of discussion many views are heard and understood, it weakens the drive of what is best.

/but what do I know?

CaptainMidnight:

I LOL'ed! Concise, sir, concise....

I'm reserving judgement (on the US public) for the next general election. How dumb are we?

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
- HL Menckin

Well in a democracy you get don't get the government you want but the government you deserve right?

TestTubeBaybeh: Jesus OZZ are you actually able to comment in a thread related to America and not be a pooface?

peed
cornflakes
etc

/pooface is a great "word" so shut up :p

I think anyone who says pooface rules :)

Excen:
You say that now, even the Bork-Bork Swedes are kicking your fjord-monkey ass by the way, but wait until we reach the bottom of the business cycle and start rebuilding again. You think we loaded now, wait until the next dictator with a bad haircut invades a foreign land.

/Dubya has kick-ass hair, fark you.
//Prowd 2 B ´mer´can.
///Dey tuuk r jerbs!!!

I don't even know what to make of this, its awesome.

unexplained bacon: that 19% is likely infested with those morans who think jesus wants the chaos bush has wrought for his comeback.

seriously. they're out there, walkin' around, mistaking their own twisted inner voice for the voice of god.

An average schmuck hearing the voice of Jesus in his head, acting to do some right in this world based on that, would probably find himself in a room with padded walls.

Say that God tells you you're doing one heckuva jerb invading countries full of oil for no particuarily good reason while being a president, and some Christian-fundie nutcases of the south will regard you as a prophet.

malcy: The rest of you ARE DOING IT WRONG!1!!

Preach it brother, I got your back. Till I run away.

OZZ: I don't think America is heading in the wrong direction.

A direction indicates intelligent control.

Its just wandering aimlessly in circles with breaks every two minutes to catch its breath and to pop a Zoloft.

Fat miserable motherfarkers.

Yeah, where does that put the nations who are doing worse?

You know...all of them?

I think it's a positive sign that such a high number of people love their country enough to project a good future onto it. You'd need to worry if that many people said they didn't care anymore, or had no opinion.

Ha, good heading, person who submitted the article.

Going by the stats it seems the hyperbole over the sub-prime and credit crunch dramas are having the intended effect on the population of the US. I'd guess if the questions were asked of other western countries the figures would be similar.

CaptainMidnight: I'm reserving judgement (on the US public) for the next general election. How dumb are we?

I'm afraid we already settled that one in the last general election when we RE-elected GWB. Oh, and the one before that, when we first elected that weak, stupid, advantaged underachiever.

/Live in Ohio.
//Can't believe we were a red state.
///Gobama!

Gais Baltar 08', He will lead us to the promised land.

gonepostal: CBS-NYTimes poll? isn't that the same one Joseph Gobbells used to propagate the big lie theory of propaganda?

No.

It was Joseph Goebbels and he would have done it better.

Hetfield: -

Simply put, again, in my opinion...consensus is "the middle ground" where the majority of people have sacrificed enough to satisfy and/or appease a minority view. Who's to say which group is right? Either way, you're stuck in the middle; which is neither good nor bad. On the whole, I find it senseless to lead from the middle.

America has a responsibility of leadership. I maintain that honorable leadership addresses the concerns of all, but doesn't necessarily pander to what's popular at the moment.

Richard Saunders: Hetfield:
I would like to agree, but apparently, consensus is useless.

It's been my experience that there's a great difference between agreement (on principal and fact) and consensus. I find that consensus, although through the process of discussion many views are heard and understood, it weakens the drive of what is best.

/but what do I know?

Neither George nor Dick were ever much in favor of consensus either. By that standard, then, I suppose this is our best.

Honestly..what do you know?

Richard Saunders: Hetfield: -

Simply put, again, in my opinion...consensus is "the middle ground" where the majority of people have sacrificed enough to satisfy and/or appease a minority view. Who's to say which group is right? Either way, you're stuck in the middle; which is neither good nor bad. On the whole, I find it senseless to lead from the middle.

America has a responsibility of leadership. I maintain that honorable leadership addresses the concerns of all, but doesn't necessarily pander to what's popular at the moment.

I agree, but please don't hate me for it.

Galen_Rasputin
Gais Baltar 08', He will lead us to the promised land.

THIS!

Can't wait to see new episode!

/asplodes

Galen_Rasputin: Gais Baltar 08', He will lead us to the promised land.

/goBaltar!
//platform of a few Cylons for every human!
///mmmm toasters

The sad part is, 90% of the incumbants running for reelection will wind up winning, proving that the American people are as stupid as ever. IF you want a real change, DON'T vote for the idiots in the two major parties. Trust me, Obama, Hillary, and John are two sides of the same coin, along with the rest of their buddies in Congress.

/Don't know why I bother.
//You sheep are all going to vote Democrap/Repuglican anyway.
///Or, if under thirty, you'll biatch and whine, but not vote.

Fapper Dan: CaptainMidnight: I'm reserving judgement (on the US public) for the next general election. How dumb are we?

I'm afraid we already settled that one in the last general election when we RE-elected GWB. Oh, and the one before that, when we first elected that weak, stupid, advantaged underachiever.

/Live in Ohio.
//Can't believe we were a red state.
///Gobama!

Does the name Bob Fitrakis mean anything to you?
Seriously, George never won an election.
If you really lived in Ohio, you'd know this.
Thanks for nuthin...

devildog123: The sad part is, 90% of the incumbants running for reelection will wind up winning, proving that the American people are as stupid as ever. IF you want a real change, DON'T vote for the idiots in the two major parties. Trust me, Obama, Hillary, and John are two sides of the same coin, along with the rest of their buddies in Congress.

/Don't know why I bother.
//You sheep are all going to vote Democrap/Repuglican anyway.
///Or, if under thirty, you'll biatch and whine, but not vote.

DUDE!

You are totally right!

Thank you for this awesome insight!

So, everyone here, in fact everyone in America, will vote for.... what? Ron Paul?

Ok sure.

Then the Electoral College just puts in whoever paid them the most. (Hillary)

Will of the People? That died a long time ago kid.

RabidDog: I did learn to drive in Britain, but then again I am British. The test is a hell of a lot harder than driving around the block like you do in the states. Plus that driving on the wrong side of the road nonsense and turning right on a red.

Always been curious about this; can you turn left on red in Britain?

I HATE polls like this.

All this says is 81% of Americans have been made scared by the media, regardless of the direction the economy happens to be moving.

The other 19% either don't care about the media coverage, or enjoy giving contradictory answers to polls.

Tell me 81% of economists think we're heading in the wrong direction, and I'll listen.

Americans are, by and large, ignorant and stupid.

MrKraclenutz: Always been curious about this; can you turn left on red in Britain?

No, not legally anyway.

Came to say bravo to subby. Bravo.

Gobobo: Ha, good heading, person who submitted the article.

Going by the stats it seems the hyperbole over the sub-prime and credit crunch dramas are having the intended effect on the population of the US. I'd guess if the questions were asked of other western countries the figures would be similar.


Or it could be the fact that gas prices are driving up the cost of almost everything Americans buy, because it is - not because MSNBC says so.
Or the fact that people with a legitimate reason to sell their house (i.e., people who got a new job out of the state/reasonable driving area) simply can't.
Or the fact that all the real estate speculation in a few very large states inflated the market value and, in turn, drove up the taxes and insurance that homeowners pay.
Or the fact that construction employs more people than you can even fathom (including all the ancillary businesses), and the residential market is still all but stagnant and even the commercial side is starting to slow down.

Do I need to go on? Are you really so naive that you think these "problems" with our economy is a just fabrication by Keith Olberman and Brian Williams to boost their ratings?

Hetfield:
I agree, but please don't hate me for it.

No hate.

I apologize if my tone was misunderstood. Just stating an opinion.

Hope to meet-n-greet you in another thread sometime.

Time for me to go make the donuts.

Cheers.

I think what almost disturbed me more about this poll was this:

The poll also found that Americans blame government officials for the housing crisis more than banks or home buyers and other borrowers. Forty percent of respondents said regulators were mostly to blame, while 28 percent named lenders and 14 percent named borrowers.

OK, there's little doubt that there was some shady dealings going on in the lending business and doubtless a number of people got duped- but I still put a whole lot of responsibility on the people who thought that they could afford a $250,000 house while making $6/hour working at McDonald's.

dylanthomas: what does DIRECTION have to do with it? We drive on different SIDES of the road, going in the SAME DIRECTION

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Or you drive on the same side of the road going different directions....

/I got nothin'

Seventy-eight percent of respondents said the country was worse off than five years ago. Still, the approval rating of President George W. Bush did not change since last summer, with 28 percent of respondents saying they approved of the job he was doing.


For all the dumbasses who voted for Bush, especially the second time around, who have now come to see the light, I would like a letter of apology from each and every one of you.

Ashyukun:
OK, there's little doubt that there was some shady dealings going on in the lending business and doubtless a number of people got duped- but I still put a whole lot of responsibility on the people who thought that they could afford a $250,000 house while making $6/hour working at McDonald's.


But but, the American Dream! EVERYONE can be rich, it's only a matter of time! Vote for tax cuts for the wealthy. Borrow well beyond your means. Buy things you can never afford. Do it all son because you're an American and anything is possible. Why wait when you can enjoy the fruits of your inevitable wealth now? I mean, it's only a matter of time, right? Besides, all of your neighbours have nicer cars....

Too many people thinking like that.

My order of blame:
1) borrowers for being idiots
2) the gov't for bailing out the lenders rather than letting them pay for their greed and what should have been an obvious mistake
3) the lenders for being so grossly predatory
4) the culture for pushing people to think that it is things which define who they are