which is why they do it the way they do, in a manner that more accurately represents the will of the voters.

These numbers give Texas' "prima-caucus" delegates to Clinton

why do they go to her? clinton won the open vote but obama won the caucus, right? i mean, your entire article is based a gap roughly the same size as the number of texas delegates.

if i'm wrong, that's cool, but your entire premise hinges on the one state with a two-step situation where there was a split this year.

Only problem with this sort of "what if?" thinking is that IF the Dem primaries were winner-take-all, things might've played out differently.

For instance, Richardson and Edwards would've probably dropped out much sooner, so their supporters would've moved to either Clinton or Obama more quickly. This in turn might've changed the outcomes of a few of the other states, and so forth.

Same thing with the Florida/Michigan mess--if they'd just waited their turns, there's no telling how it would've affected things--Edwards dropped out immediately after Florida, remember. The media spin would be different as well, which in turn impacts people's perceptions, and so on.

Your opinions are irrelevant. In the end the Democratic party controls the nominee through the super delegates.

//yeah democracy

Thought experiment - Rasmussen, suck my dick.

Thought experiment: What strategy will the Democrats use to destroy their chances to win the Presidency this time?

Blah blah blah! Just tell the shrill lady to STFU and let Obama woo the masses with his awesomeness.

Thought experiment: if the Democratic primaries so far had been determined on the basis of basketball prowess...

Thought experiment: If a frog had wings, would he bump his ass on the ground as much?

kingMountain: if i'm wrong, that's cool, but your entire premise hinges on the one state with a two-step situation where there was a split this year.

Also a state where Republican were urged by Rush Limbaugh to vote in the democratic primary and to vote for Hillary because they think that McCain can beat Hillary and not Obama. In Ohio it's a felony according to their state laws:

Ohio law requires that citizens genuinely support a political party in order to vote in its primary. To change parties for a primary, a citizen must pledge, under the penalty of election falsification, that she is affiliated with the party and "supports" its principles. Lying on the pledge is a felony, punishable by up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine. The law also stipulates that poll workers have a "duty" to challenge voters who are "not a member of the political party whose ballot the person desires to vote." - taken from here ^{(^)}

From what I've been hearing... the 120,000 or so Texans that decided to do that are what tilted the open primary in Hillary's favor. But at least they have a certain 'fail safe' in Texas with the two-step process in which Obama won handily. Seems like if Clinton was going to win Texas cleanly and on her own merits, it would have happened in both. But it didn't and Obama walks away from Texas with more delegates than Hillary in the end.

It's too bad that it is doubtful that those that broke the law in Ohio will be held accountable...

Thought experiment: If popular vote was used for picking the president, Bush wouldn't be it.

Thought experiment: Bush shouldn't be the president under the electoral college system either, had it been allowed to work.

We can play "if only..." all day.

Guy Innagorillasuit: Thought experiment: If a frog had wings, would he bump his ass on the ground as much?

Yes. The Mythbusters did an episode on this topic, and totally busted it.

Thought experiment: If every American used their power of reason enough to commonly engage in thought experiments, the GOP would be about as popular as the Constitution Party.

If it were winner take all, Clinton never would have made to March 4.

Part of the reason the Democrats don't have a "winner take all" system is because they leave the primaries open to non-Democrat voters. This is a very important point to consider when playing parlor games like this

Who cares about the games? The GOP is swirling around the bottom of the bowl, anyway.

Thought experiment: if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

BlueDjinn: Only problem with this sort of "what if?" thinking is that IF the Dem primaries were winner-take-all, things might've played out differently.

THIS should end the thread. But I know better.

/very clever grasshopper

Thought experiment:

oh... oops... I didn't know we were supposed to type it.

MONKEY BANANA RAFFLE!

Thought experiment: If Hillary had no legs, would she leave a snail trail everywhere she went?

FTA: a remarkable 167 (1427 to 1260) pledged delegate lead.

So in imaginary land, where Clinton has a 160+ delegate lead, it's remarkable, but in reality, where Obama has a 160+ delegate lead, not so much.

Thanks for clearing that up Rasmussen.

Thought experiment: If everything was different, then everything would be different.

I guess the "thought" here is that Obama is just winning because he's taking advantage of some "loophole" where people decide who they want.

Damn, that Obama. For not running his campaign in all hypothetical scenarios.

Thought experiment: imagine that I give a shiat.

Thought experiment? This is Fark.

But what if black was white?

BillCo: Your opinions are irrelevant. In the end the Democratic party controls the nominee through the super delegates.

Republican superdelegates (hate that word) unpledged PLEOs get a free pass?

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Thought experiment: if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

And if my uncle had pedals and wheels, he'd be a bicycle.

Thought experiment: if we still used the 3/5 vote rule, Hillary would be leading.

Thought experiment: lets try not making up retarded simulations which have no relevance.

If my Aunt had balls, she'd be my Uncle.

burndtdan: which is why they do it the way they do, in a manner that more accurately represents the will of the voters.

HAHAHAH Yeah thats why they have superdelegates and why pledged delegates can actually vote any way they want regardless of why they were pledged HAHAHAHAA I haven't had a good laugh like that for a while thank you.

Drunk Bureaucrat: Thought experiment: if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

You beat me to it.

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Thought experiment: if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

damn it.

Thought experiment: monkeys and radicals team up to take down the world, turning us all into slaves in their banana farms, while they light their stogies with the bones of our ancestors

vernonFL: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Thought experiment: if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

damn it.

I did a page search for it before submitting mine.

Thought Experiment: A hot blond in a French maid outfit and a brunette in a sexy nurse out fit.

*fap* *fap*

Thought experiment: if cows could fly would you drive a convertible?

Why are you so interested in supporting Hillary all of the sudden?

I mean, if McCain is a shoe in no matter what the Democrats do, why should it matter to you which one wins the nomination?

The Team HillBilly partisan harpies have been pushing this meme for a long time now, and it never ceases to annoy.

Obama's people have been conducting a brilliant campaign, every step of the way. If each state race had been winner-take-all, they would have done things a little differently. No question about it.

This "thought experiment" is pure bullshiat.

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: ball

goddamn you! :)

You know who else won an election although they lost the popular vote?

That's right...


Rutherford B. Hayes

Thought Experiment: What if C-A-T really spelled "dog"?

Thought Experiment: if my knuckles were actually another person then...

and would GUARANTEE a McCain presidency.

And our screwed up system that we have right now is the reason that instead of having the strongest and most experienced candidate already battling the republican nominee, we have the entire party tearing itself apart battling over someone with no experience, credentials or know how versus the most experienced and strongest candidate the party has known in the last 100 years. But of course, as long as it stops a female from finally gaining power, its all good to you fellas, isnt it?

This guy doesnt deserve to even be a junior senator, let alone in the highest office. It is way past time we allow a strong woman to take charge and fix this big mess we are in.

Thought experiment: What if there were no thought experiments? OR DI I JUST BLOW YOUR FREAKIN' MIND?

Thought experiment.

Why, thank you.

That went well.

/mmmm... thought...

hillarymom44: But of course, as long as it stops a female from finally gaining power, its all good to you fellas, isnt it?

Thought experiment: anyone who likes Obama over Hillary is a member of the He-Man Woman Hater club.

hillarymom44: This guy doesnt deserve to even be a junior senator, let alone in the highest office. It is way past time we allow a strong woman to take charge and fix this big mess we are in.


Ok, exactly what qualifies someone to be a senator in your mind? In my mind, it is someone who wins an election for senator. Didn't he do this? And WITHOUT the help of his cheating spouse?

Ok, suppose for argument purposes, I grant your point that Obama is a terribly unqualified politician. Then explain to me why that woman shouldn't be a sufficiently good politician to beat someone who shouldn't even be a junior senator?

Why do Menopausal-Americans think that Hillary Clinton is THE woman to be the first of her gender to hold the Presidency? There are MANY MANY better female politicians that would do a good job.