RON PAUL FOR PRES '08!!111!!11!!@!eleven!!1

/i hope nobody shows.

Who is this Ron Paul, and how can I learn more about him?

I will be writing in Ron Paul if he's not on the ballot. So will many, many others. We're currently working to get the Republican Party platform revised to root out all of the big-government print-and-spend anti-liberty planks and politicians, and running people for numerous state and local offices.

Once you go Constitution, you never go back.

Oh, and John McCain is no Republican.

http://www.republicansagainstjohnmccain.com/
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=22437305368

Will N. Dowd: I will be writing in Ron Paul if he's not on the ballot. So will many, many others. We're currently working to get the Republican Party platform revised to root out all of the big-government print-and-spend anti-liberty planks and politicians, and running people for numerous state and local offices.

Once you go Constitution, you never go back.

This.

He doesn't stand a chance, because Americans want higher taxes, increased debt, more restrictions on their activities, a bigger prison population, foreign wars of aggression, an unaccountable executive, a falling dollar, and jackbooted thugs on every corner waiting to taze them.

More threads about Ron Paul are not specifically mentioned in the Constitution.

ScubaDude1960: He doesn't stand a chance, because Americans want higher taxes, increased debt, more restrictions on their activities, a bigger prison population, foreign wars of aggression, an unaccountable executive, a falling dollar, and jackbooted thugs on every corner waiting to taze them.

Actually, we just don't want Ron Paul, or any of the wierdos like him, as president.
If you can put up a candidate who's actually electable in a general election and find a way to properly fund his/her campaign you'd have a chance.

/well, maybe not

ScubaDude1960: He doesn't stand a chance,

Maybe that's true. But when your sitting around the water cooler and people complain how farked up our President is, you can excuse yourself from responsibility by saying..."I voted for Ron Paul".

That's more rewarding than anything you'll get from the other candidates.

McCain is not a Republican.

Cagey B: More threads about Ron Paul are not specifically mentioned in the Constitution.

Amendment IX: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Well since we seem to have all the Paulites together in one thread I say we nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

Bonkthat_Again: you can excuse yourself from responsibility by saying..."I voted for Ron Paul".

It's true. Once you admit you voted for Ron Paul, nobody will take you seriously.

anal brazil men: Bonkthat_Again: you can excuse yourself from responsibility by saying..."I voted for Ron Paul".

It's true. Once you admit you voted for Ron Paul, nobody will take you seriously.

That is a real problem here on Fark.

Snarfangel: anal brazil men: Bonkthat_Again: you can excuse yourself from responsibility by saying..."I voted for Ron Paul".

It's true. Once you admit you voted for Ron Paul, nobody will take you seriously.

That is a real problem here on Fark.

STEVE HOLT!!!

anal brazil men: It's true. Once you admit you voted for Ron Paul, nobody will take you seriously.

It worked for me many times with Ross Perot.

Bonkthat_Again: "I voted for Ron Paul"

Please... I voted for him in 1988 instead of Bush or Dukakis. I consider this a source of shame not an achievement.

Snarfangel: That is a real problem here on Fark.

How is it a problem? His fans are mindless zealots and his policies are administratively impossible to uphold. Not only that, as this headline points out, his campaign is essentially over.

Ron Paul shouldn't be taken seriously.

Bonkthat_Again: It worked for me many times with Ross Perot.

Saying "Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy" doesn't absolve you of responsibility. It just demonstrates you'd rather keep your head in the sand.

I'm voting for him in the Kentucky primary.

Will N. Dowd: Oh, and John McCain is no Republican.

http://www.republicansagainstjohnmccain.com/
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=22437305368

Look, I have no use for McCain, but please don't ever cite a facebook group in an adult discussion again.

/or Obama Girl, or Hillary's myspace.
//Just. Don't.

Voted for him in the Illinois primary.

Will be voting and campaiging for all "Ron Paul Republicans" in the future.

When countries stop accepting U.S. dollars because of their meager value, you may all one day think that Ron Paul wasn't so crazy after all.

Bonkthat_Again: ...excuse yourself from responsibility by saying..."I voted for Ron Paul".

If only I didn't have this stupid love for my country, and the annoying desire to make it better, perhaps I could succumb to such a serene fantasy. Instead I'm stuck with this sense of responsibility for the Bush disaster because I could have done more to oppose his candidacy and protest his policies.

anal brazil men: How is it a problem? His fans are mindless zealots and his policies are administratively impossible to uphold.

Ron Paul Obama shouldn't be taken seriously.


FTFY

anal brazil men: Saying "Don't blame me, I voted for the other guy" doesn't absolve you of responsibility. It just demonstrates you'd rather keep your head in the sand.

I actually think Ron Paul is a better candidate than McCain, Clinton, or Obama.

I thought Ros Perot was a better candidate when I voted for him too.

The two-party system IS what's wrong with this country. I think voting Democrat or Republican is putting your head in the sand, lost cause, etc.

I can't resist.

eabod: Instead I'm stuck with this sense of responsibility for the Bush disaster because I could have done more to oppose his candidacy and protest his policies.

And then you'll be forced to vote Republican after the failed policies of the Democrat incumbent....so the cycle will forever continue.

This guy presents an interesting reason for Ron Paul staying in the race.

Link (new window)

Jaykzo: FTFY

I noticed that you conveniently omitted the part about how campaigning for Ron Paul will produce no substantive results. How nice. Keep campaigning for all "Ron Paul Republicans" in the future, guy. I'm sure it won't be a waste of your time.

Bonkthat_Again: The two-party system IS what's wrong with this country. I think voting Democrat or Republican is putting your head in the sand, lost cause, etc.

Last time I checked, Ron Paul is running as a Republican. Looks someone acquiesces into the two-party system. For shame.

I tried to convince everyone I could to vote Ron Paul in the primaries. Unfortunately it's too late. Looks like this election is going to be a big fat "I told you so!" just like the last election.

I mentioned this in an Obama thread yesterday...

I was figuring that most of the Paulistinians were going to cast their lot with Obama as they needed a new messianic figure to follow compulsively.

Little did I know how much I'd overestimated them...

anal brazil men: Snarfangel: That is a real problem here on Fark.

How is it a problem? His fans are mindless zealots and his policies are administratively impossible to uphold. Not only that, as this headline points out, his campaign is essentially over.

Ron Paul shouldn't be taken seriously.

Wow... how can point fingers at his fans for being "mindless zealots" when your current president sides with fundamentalist Christians.

/It's easy to draw a negative picture of someone when all you're given is gray and black crayons from your Fox News.
//wakka wakka wakka

USCLaw2010: This guy presents an interesting reason for Ron Paul staying in the race.

Good article...I'll be a Ron Paul fan well into his death.

Cagey B: More threads about Ron Paul are not specifically mentioned in the Constitution.

Good thing fark is a private site.

Bonkthat_Again
I actually think Ron Paul is a better candidate than McCain, Clinton, or Obama.

Why? Of every Congressman, Ron Paul has probably taken the longest to do the least with his office. His positions are consistently untenable and result in him being relegated to the sidelines of political discourse. He's basically the resident Congressional Contrarian, not a leader of people.

mrexcess: Bonkthat_Again
I actually think Ron Paul is a better candidate than McCain, Clinton, or Obama.

Why? Of every Congressman, Ron Paul has probably taken the longest to do the least with his office. His positions are consistently untenable and result in him being relegated to the sidelines of political discourse. He's basically the resident Congressional Contrarian, not a leader of people.

The less the people in congress 'do', the better.

The people lead him, not vice versa. The way it's supposed to be.

anal brazil men: Last time I checked, Ron Paul is running as a Republican. Looks someone acquiesces into the two-party system. For shame.

I selected Ron Paul for what he stands for. Just because he didn't get the nomination, doesn't mean I'm not voting for him. I selected a candidate I agree with and I'm sticking with him, regardless of party affiliation.
How about you? Are you still waiting to hear your overlords tell you to vote for Hillary or Obama?

Bonkthat_Again: a
I selected Ron Paul for what he stands for. Just because he didn't get the nomination, doesn't mean I'm not voting for him. I selected a candidate I agree with and I'm sticking with him, regardless of party affiliation.
How about you? Are you still waiting to hear your overlords tell you to vote for Hillary or Obama?


I selected Cobra Commander for what he stands for. Just because he is a fictional character from an 80s cartoon show, doesn't mean I'm not voting for him. I selected a candidate I agree with and I'm sticking with him, regardless of party affiliation.
How about you? Are you still waiting to hear your overlords tell you to vote for Hillary or Obama?

Reality is the tin foil hat non-Paul voters use to keep the real-world out.

mrexcess: His positions are consistently untenable and result in him being relegated to the sidelines of political discourse.

They're considered "untenable" because it requires changing the political system. People "dismiss"...not confront...but dismiss his ideas, because his ideas require a change to the system. His biggest enemies are lobbyists...the hands that feeds the politicians.

mongbiohazard: I mentioned this in an Obama thread yesterday...

I was figuring that most of the Paulistinians were going to cast their lot with Obama as they needed a new messianic figure to follow compulsively.

Little did I know how much I'd overestimated them...

Why would anyone who supports Ron Paul switch to Obama? I don't understand why people still make this comparison. The two candidates are worlds apart on nearly every issue. One wants government out of our lives, the other wants government to control our lives.

Hank Reardon
The less the people in congress 'do', the better.

Katrina victims disagree. Soldiers stuck in Iraq disagree. Americans who want Osama Bin Laden captured or killed disagree. Americans who want their civil liberties protected disagree.

For starters.

The people lead him, not vice versa. The way it's supposed to be.

Maybe for a Congressman, although I'd argue that leadership is still very much a requirement for a job like that. For a President? Absolutely not. Presidents are supposed to lead.

Bag of Hammers: I selected Cobra Commander for what he stands for. Just because he is a fictional character from an 80s cartoon show, doesn't mean I'm not voting for him.

I like his tax policy, but his world domination through snakes platform is a non-starter.

Shostie: Bag of Hammers: I selected Cobra Commander for what he stands for. Just because he is a fictional character from an 80s cartoon show, doesn't mean I'm not voting for him.

I like his tax policy, but his world domination through snakes platform is a non-starter.

Why do you hate the constitution?

Bonkthat_Again
They're considered "untenable" because it requires changing the political system.

No. Lots of people want to change the political system, and those changes happen. Obama stands a good chance of achieving that himself, and I will support him all the way.

Paul's ideas are untenable because they tend to be naive to the point of nuttiness, not taking into account the way that the real world works. To me, it seems that Paul sees the world overmuch in terms of black and white.

anal brazil men: Jaykzo: FTFY

I noticed that you conveniently omitted the part about how campaigning for Ron Paul will produce no substantive results. How nice. Keep campaigning for all "Ron Paul Republicans" in the future, guy. I'm sure it won't be a waste of your time.



Maybe cause it wouldn't have been true had I left that in there.

Anyone who has the ability to get people to actually start caring about their country is a good thing, and should be running. Whether they succeed at the nomination is secondary to why they are running, and what their campaign produces. Ron Paul and Obama do have one thing in common, they have attracted a large number of young people into the political world. Thats a good thing.

I'm not so much of an ignorant asshole that I believe Obama's run will produce no substantive results.

You, on the other hand......

Bonkthat_Again: They're considered "untenable" because it requires changing the political system.

Changing an entire political system is going to require millions of people and the cooperation of disparate, antagonistic organizations.

What qualities does Ron Paul have that make him uniquely required to do this? Does he posses negotiating skills? Stirring rhetoric? Persuasive arguments? A legion of political cronies who share his worldview? He has none of this.

I do dismiss his ideas because they are predicated on wholesale changes to the system without any tools to bring it about.

mrexcess: Hank Reardon
Katrina victims disagree. Soldiers stuck in Iraq disagree. Americans who want Osama Bin Laden captured or killed disagree. Americans who want their civil liberties protected disagree.


1.) Katrina was a hurricane. FEMA fumbled. Ordinary people did more than the government ever did in that situation.

2.) Our congresspeople 'doing stuff' is what started this whole Iraq thing to begin with. They 'voted' for it.

3.) The knucklehead policies by our elected officials is whats deteriorating our civil liberties.

Now, imagine, if the last 8 years... people in government didn't do anything.

Not one damn thing.

*ahhhhhhhh* That, my friend, is liberty.