Can we raise the voting age to 21, or implement an intelligence test before you register?

recently, everything might have seemed like one sweet world to the clinton campaign, but while they were trying to seek up the nomination, they couldn't find enough people to say "i'll back you up".

now, it seems that there is no rhyme and reason to their campaign. what would you say? they definitely don't seem to be the best of what's around. democrats are going to the polls to vote for obama like ants marching, while the clintons flounder like a couple of dancing nancies.

one thing is for sure, this definitely isn't a typical situation. the american voter seems to have decided that the clintons will only let you down until we lie in our graves, and only someone who is tripping billies would vote for them. no, we'd rather cry freedom.

some are saying hillary should concede. obama says she can stay (though she just might be wasting time). either way, it's only a matter of time before her campaign is going to crash.

in the meantime, she seems content to sit in the dreaming tree, while she spends too much, seemingly unaware that you pay for what you get. she has so much to say, but all the voters want is for her to say goodbye.

/yes, i'm bored

Why would they do that to those poor kids?

Dave Matthews, when asked for comment, responded "Bee-bop-do-waaaaaaah-be-boooooo...Obama for president."

robsul82: Dave Matthews, when asked for comment, responded "Bee-bop-do-waaaaaaah-be-boooooo...Obama for president."

burndtdan - You are the proudest monkey.

ChewbaccaJones: burndtdan - You are the proudest monkey.

He doesn't miss a bleat.

Anyone know why Hillary Clinton is still in it?

Is she trying to be the Democrat version of Ron Paul?

FTA: "I was leaning toward Obama, but this sealed the deal for sure," he said. "The Obama campaign announced this right as (Bill Clinton) was about to speak, and it brought everyone from over there to over here."

It amuses me how blatant their attempts at vote-buying are. Why are we as a nation so naïve as to vote ourselves largess from the public purse?

"I was leaning toward Obama, but this sealed the deal for sure,"


*facepalm*

I'm an ardent Obama supporter, but I'm a little wary of this whole "giving away concert tickets" thing. Anyone have any more info on that?

Also, Dave Matthews sucks.

rmoose: Can we raise the voting age to 21, or implement an intelligence test before you register?

Since I will be turning 21 6 days before the general election, and my vote can't be bought with concert tickets, I would support this.

Maybe Bill should have been handing out free cigars.

If you are going to base a vote on someone giving you a concert ticket you are a lemming and are too stupid to have any say in our electoral process. If you are going to base a vote on someone giving you a Dave Matthews Band concert ticket, you are not only a lemming and are too stupid to have any say in our electoral process, you need to just go ahead and direct yourself to the nearest cliff.

They might as well just give away t-shirts with "wacky" slogans on them - works for FirstUSA BankOne Chase.

Car_Ramrod: I'm an ardent Obama supporter, but I'm a little wary of this whole "giving away concert tickets" thing. Anyone have any more info on that?

Also, Dave Matthews sucks.

from the left side of the column:

» Sunday: Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds hold a voter-registration concert for Obama, 7 p.m., Assembly Hall, Indiana University, Bloomington. Tickets are free to Indiana residents and in-state students but must be obtained at an Obama office in Indianapolis, Bloomington or Lafayette. The tickets are available first-come, first-served at Obama's Indianapolis office, 2 N. Meridian St., 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. today.

So its actually Tim Reynolds and Dave Matthews doing a free concert as a show of their support for Obama. Maybe thats a technicality, but it is slightly different from saying "hey I'll give you a $55 concert ticket if you vote for me"

burndtdan: recently, everything might have seemed like one sweet world to the clinton campaign, but while they were trying to seek up the nomination, they couldn't find enough people to say "i'll back you up".

now, it seems that there is no rhyme and reason to their campaign. what would you say? they definitely don't seem to be the best of what's around. democrats are going to the polls to vote for obama like ants marching, while the clintons flounder like a couple of dancing nancies.

one thing is for sure, this definitely isn't a typical situation. the american voter seems to have decided that the clintons will only let you down until we lie in our graves, and only someone who is tripping billies would vote for them. no, we'd rather cry freedom.

some are saying hillary should concede. obama says she can stay (though she just might be wasting time). either way, it's only a matter of time before her campaign is going to crash.

in the meantime, she seems content to sit in the dreaming tree, while she spends too much, seemingly unaware that you pay for what you get. she has so much to say, but all the voters want is for her to say goodbye.

/yes, i'm bored

That gets more than a golf clap from me....BRAVO!!!!

baorao: So its actually Tim Reynolds and Dave Matthews doing a free concert as a show of their support for Obama. Maybe thats a technicality, but it is slightly different from saying "hey I'll give you a $55 concert ticket if you vote for me"

also, hillary is doing it too.

burndtdan: also, hillary is doing it too.

Well, not exactly. Hillary's tickets you have to pay for, which makes it more of a traditional high-dollar fund raiser. Giving away tickets to college kids is different.

Will N. Dowd: FTA: "I was leaning toward Obama, but this sealed the deal for sure," he said. "The Obama campaign announced this right as (Bill Clinton) was about to speak, and it brought everyone from over there to over here."

It amuses me how blatant their attempts at vote-buying are. Why are we as a nation so naïve as to vote ourselves largess from the public purse?

When two candidates are very similar on policy position, which arguably Obama and Clinton are agreed on most policy positions. There are differences between the way that each is going to implement their policies, which is what has been attracting policy wonks to Obama. But most voters do not bother digging into the arcane workings of policy they simply know which side of a batch of issues they are on. For those voters when split between two candidates of equal worth policy-wise there are only two ways of winning them; destroy your opponent with negative campaigning, or win them over with cool free stuff.

If Hillary had the funds to afford a couple thousand Dave Matthew's Band tickets she would probably do the same thing.

Wait... Dave Matthews? That's it, I'm voting for McCain now!

baorao: from the left side of the column:

Pssh. It was under the header "Related information". How was I to know that was relevant? Thanks for the heads up. No longer wary since it's specifically for Obama by the artists. Also found out Jeremy Piven is pro-Obama. Awesome.

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lunchinlewis: burndtdan: also, hillary is doing it too.

Well, not exactly. Hillary's tickets you have to pay for, which makes it more of a traditional high-dollar fund raiser. Giving away tickets to college kids is different.

wasn't saying it's exactly the same, but she's also using a musician to aid her campaign.

I don't think this is what most of us had in mind when we donated to Obama's campaign.

As former President Bill Clinton was extolling his wife's credentials, Obama's campaign office in Bloomington began giving away tickets to Sunday's Dave Matthews concert at Assembly Hall.



That is sheer brilliance.

Poop thread!!!

Weaver95: As former President Bill Clinton was extolling his wife's credentials, Obama's campaign office in Bloomington began giving away tickets to Sunday's Dave Matthews concert at Assembly Hall.

That is sheer brilliance.

"The Obama campaign announced this right as (Bill Clinton) was about to speak, and it brought everyone from over there to over here."

that had to be funny to see

While Bill Clinton is speaking on a college campus



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Kanyon: I don't think this is what most of us had in mind when we donated to Obama's campaign.

What do you mean? You didn't think that artists would be holding free concerts for Obama?

His solo album makes me want to punch children.

It's sort of like paying people to vote, isn't it?

"Dave Mathews band sucks. Anyone who is offended by this comment is the problem with this country. People who are offended shouldn't be asking themselves, why in the hell would anyone have a different opinion than me? No. What they should be asking themself is, why do I like such shiatty music?" -Daniel Tosh

Atypical Person Reading Fark: It's sort of like paying people to vote, isn't it?

Not when the cost is $0.

Lol, college students love Dave Matthews.

Dave Matthews?

Thats it. I'm voting for Hillary.

Jesus, I hope he didn't spend campaign finance funds on those tickets.

HotWingConspiracy: His solo album makes me want to punch children.

I've never needed a reason.

/baggage compartment

HotWingConspiracy: His solo album makes me want to punch children.

Sure, blame it on Dave Matthews. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

gilgigamesh: Dave Matthews?

Thats it. I'm voting for Hillary.

Don't forget Tim Reynolds... whoever the hell that is.

Dave Mathews is still around? I haven't heard him since I graduated a while back.

DogPollen: Atypical Person Reading Fark: It's sort of like paying people to vote, isn't it?

Not when the cost is $0.

Yeah, people can be bought off with "free" stuff.

absoluteparanoia: Jesus, I hope he didn't spend campaign finance funds on those tickets.

I just gave him a contribution before checking out fark.

Now I'm wondering if I just gave money to Dave Matthews.

*shudder*

muck4doo: DogPollen: Atypical Person Reading Fark: It's sort of like paying people to vote, isn't it?

Not when the cost is $0.

Yeah, people can be bought off with "free" stuff.

Like health care.

MFL: Dave Mathews is still around? I haven't heard him since I graduated a while back.

You graduated? I believe in miracles.

What is this, 1997? Why don't they hand out Oasis tickets while they're at it?

Nabb1: If you are going to base a vote on someone giving you a concert ticket you are a lemming and are too stupid to have any say in our electoral process. If you are going to base a vote on someone giving you a Dave Matthews Band concert ticket, you are not only a lemming and are too stupid to have any say in our electoral process, you need to just go ahead and direct yourself to the nearest cliff.

what about if they promised me a tax rebate? that's what Bush gave me.(although he cost me more in the long run it sure did sound good at the beginning) if the value of the bribe goes up does it make the bribe more valid and the lured voter more intelligent?

Dave Matthews has got to be the most self-absorbed jerk in the history of humankind. Which I can't understand, because "his" music sucks so bad, even Olly would say it's worse than Bjork.

rmoose: Can we raise the voting age to 21, or implement an intelligence test before you register?


I sure wish we would. It is far too easy to vote already. America needs INFORMED votes, not just any vote. Sitting on the couch watching pop TV for 3.99 years and then hauling our fat asses to the oversized voting booths on election day isn't helpful to America.

Maybe a basic math test... Just really really basic math, like addition and subtraction even...

I thought Obama was the candidate who was IN TOUCH with young voters. Dave Freakin Matthews???