Actually Nude is one of the better songs on the cd.

I think it's a good disc, but I like Thom's solo album a lot better. Check out "Black Swan" and "Harrowdown Hill" if you like Kid A and Amnesiac -- reminds me of stuff from there, sort of.

I like Muse better, if only because I believe imitation dog shiat is less potent than a big steaming pile of the real thing.

that really sux that you have to buy the tracks, then use garage band or logic. why not free tracks, and use whatever the hell you want?

Bhasayate: I think it's a good disc, but I like Thom's solo album a lot better. Check out "Black Swan" and "Harrowdown Hill" if you like Kid A and Amnesiac -- reminds me of stuff from there, sort of.

is this a troll? how can you possibly compare thom's solo album with kid a and amnesiac?

I remember back in the good old days, when they were making sounds that I really enjoyed hearing from them. Back in the good old day before Pablo Honey.

And thy make you pay for the privilege.
Nine Inch Nails lets you remix their stuff for free.

They're charging you to download the source files in order to remix it? Damn, Trent Reznor lets you download his for free and there are generally a lot more elements to his songs.

Then again, I like NIN and have never liked Radiohead, so I might be biased.

I hate to rip on a band that I've really enjoyed and admired for years, but... Radiohead is the scourge of modern rock songwriting. It's been their influence on young alt-rockers everywhere that has lead every under-thirty musician to believe that it's cool to write crappy songs, declare anything that resembles a chorus to be "selling out" and then calling it art. Please! Radiohead earned the right to create the crap they do now by writing several masterpieces earlier in their career. So, if you haven't sold millions worldwide first, keep trying to find that hook! "The Beatles didn't write the White Album first!", is what I always say to the young artists I've worked with. That and: "Get off my Lawn".

goodbomb: Bhasayate: I think it's a good disc, but I like Thom's solo album a lot better. Check out "Black Swan" and "Harrowdown Hill" if you like Kid A and Amnesiac -- reminds me of stuff from there, sort of.

is this a troll? how can you possibly compare thom's solo album with kid a and amnesiac?

Oh, I don't know, similar production, I suppose. The drum beats, the slidey sound-ing guitars, and other similarities. But, no, it's not JUST like those albums - hence the "sort of" part there ...

When bands start selling the raw tracks without format limitations, I'll be interested. I've got plenty of freeware tools to get the job done. Just because I bought an iPod doesn't mean that I'm going to give more money to Apple.

I hate these assclowns so much.

man, what's with all the radiohead hate on this site? i like them because they bring something new to the table each time and their music really grows on you the more you listen. i tried to get into muse but just couldn't. oh well

bhorvic: man, what's with all the radiohead hate on this site? i like them because they bring something new to the table each time and their music really grows on you the more you listen. i tried to get into muse but just couldn't. oh well

Yeah, and what's with all the NIN love?

Not fond of the idea of having to pay for the tracks and being forced into using Garageband or Logic... *shrug*

they're doing great with the marketing, though...

Wookie MilsonI hate to rip on a band that I've really enjoyed and admired for years, but... Radiohead is the scourge of modern rock songwriting. It's been their influence on young alt-rockers everywhere that has lead every under-thirty musician to believe that it's cool to write crappy songs, declare anything that resembles a chorus to be "selling out" and then calling it art. Please! Radiohead earned the right to create the crap they do now by writing several masterpieces earlier in their career. So, if you haven't sold millions worldwide first, keep trying to find that hook! "The Beatles didn't write the White Album first!", is what I always say to the young artists I've worked with. That and: "Get off my Lawn".

Definitely check out Muse, and early Muse. Origin of Symmetry, if you haven't heard it, will make you a fan of talented alternative rock music again.

Also, why do people judge Radiohead so much? Well it doesn't sound like this, it wasn't what I wanted! hey you like it or you don't. If you don't, stop wasting energy dwelling on it telling me its garbage because I like In Rainbows, and I like Thom Yorke's solo stuff, and you aint changing that =D

bhorvic: man, what's with all the radiohead hate on this site? i like them because they bring something new to the table each time and their music really grows on you the more you listen. i tried to get into muse but just couldn't. oh well

I dislike them because their music bores me.

/the same for Muse

TedAlsoRises:

Don't get me wrong, I still like Radiohead... It's just that when they gave up writing "hit" songs and lost their place on radio, the only other band to recognize the void it created was Coldplay. So, by proxy; I blame Kid A for giving the world Coldplay. Can you forgive them for that? I can't!

Zombie Eater

When bands start selling the raw tracks without format limitations, I'll be interested. I've got plenty of freeware tools to get the job done. Just because I bought an iPod doesn't mean that I'm going to give more money to Apple.

Nine Inch Nails has been offering several multitracks in raw format, for free, since 2005. Two tracks off of With Teeth, 7 from Year Zero with the remaining tracks from the album included on a data disc with the YZ remix album, and 5 tracks from Ghosts are available online, with the rest of the multitracks of the 36 track album soon to be available to those who pre ordered a special addition of the physical album. So that's 14 multitrack files for free, 54 all together. The fact that radiohead is charging 6 bucks to download all the pieces to only one song, in compressed iTunes format, is disgusting. And if you upload your remix to their new remix website:

1. all rights in and to any remixed versions ("Remixes") of the song "Nude" ("the Song") created by the Entrant shall be owned by Warner/Chappell Music Ltd ("WCM") and to the extent necessary the Entrant hereby assigns all rights in the Remixes of the Song to WCM throughout the World for the full life of copyright and any and all extensions and renewals thereof. If requested by WCM, the Entrant shall complete and sign a formal assignment of copyright to give effect to the foregoing;

The way they're going about this is embarrassing. People thought it was an April fool's joke.
I'm sticking with remix.nin.com

can't really take anyone seriously who claims that they "hate" radiohead. then again most people here seem to like dream theater, king crimson or some super corny prog band thereof. radiohead has had 7 spectacular albums in 15 years and will continue to influence artists for decades to come.

so bring on the comments of "well actually i listen to (...) and i still hate radiohead" or better yet wax poetic on king crimson's huge contribution and influence on modern music. whatever, no one cares. the point is, you may not be a huge fan, but there is no denying radiohead is a GREAT band.

FunkDoctor

can't really take anyone seriously who claims that they "hate" radiohead. then again most people here seem to like dream theater, king crimson or some super corny prog band thereof. radiohead has had 7 spectacular albums in 15 years and will continue to influence artists for decades to come.

so bring on the comments of "well actually i listen to (...) and i still hate radiohead" or better yet wax poetic on king crimson's huge contribution and influence on modern music. whatever, no one cares. the point is, you may not be a huge fan, but there is no denying radiohead is a GREAT band.

How about no. Don't try to sound so high and mighty, because no one cares what you think either. You can not try to claim it's impossible for someone to hate a band just because YOU can't possibly see it that way. Many, many people hate this band with a white hot passion because the music literally angers them. I listen to them, but I've been losing more and more respect for them over the past several months for the career choices they've been making.

attack of the: How about no. Don't try to sound so high and mighty, because no one cares what you think either. You can not try to claim it's impossible for someone to hate a band just because YOU can't possibly see it that way. Many, many people hate this band with a white hot passion because the music literally angers them. I listen to them, but I've been losing more and more respect for them over the past several months for the career choices they've been making.

i am well aware that "no one cares what i think". however, it's not just me it's the vast majority of respected music critics as well as the listening public. i know i'm gonna get it for this one, but disliking radiohead is certainly akin to disliking the beatles. they are so widely respected and enjoyed that you almost come off as a buffoon for truly hating them. and their music angers you? maybe perhaps you should look within rather than blame some guys playing a little music.

attack of the: ...career choices they've been making.

I call it: Machine That Goes Ping Syndrome... A lot of their newer stuff, for me, seems really gear-centric; like, "Hey, I got this cool old mini-moog at Keith Emerson's garage sale - so I wrote a song about it". None of them are great players, but they are interesting players. It's nice when they focus on playing, rather than just looping some tubey gadget or going for the dreaded theremin solo.

Please read my comment again, but this time pay attention. I didn't say anything about my opinion of them. I said I listen to them. I mentioned how their sound affects other people, not me. And it's also a fact that a lot of people hate the Beatles too. But I don't. Just get over it. Nothing about musical taste is a definite fact. Your assumptions are very rigid.

My previous comment directed at FunkDoctor, of course. But to Wookie Milson - I wasn't thinking of their musical sound when I mentioned career choices. I'm more concerned with how they've been ripping off fans.

i read your comment. i know you listen to them, but you did note that their music angers some people. that is certainly laughable. if someone truly dislikes the beatles and, yes, radiohead to a lesser extent, then they just lack a certain level of taste in music. that's that, sorry.

It's just a taste. People that listen to classical music don't have to like radiohead. A lot of people don't listen to music at all, for that matter. Radiohead comes off as very boring to a lot of people, and it's not that hard to see why. Besides that, their sound doesn't vary all that much. It isn't hard to not like a very specific sound when there's a million different genres and an army of bands with more musical talent than they possess. In my opinion yes, they're a good band, but not that good.

attack of the: My previous comment directed at FunkDoctor, of course. But to Wookie Milson - I wasn't thinking of their musical sound when I mentioned career choices. I'm more concerned with how they've been ripping off fans.

They haven't seen any of my money since Kid A, but I do feel ripped off, now that you mention it. I did think that the pay-what-you-want-to thing was a great idea, though.

They haven't seen any of my money since Kid A, but I do feel ripped off, now that you mention it. I did think that the pay-what-you-want-to thing was a great idea, though.

It would have been a good idea if they weren't offering the tracks in a measly 160 kb. Who wants to listen to music that depends so much on sonic landscapes when the sound quality is so dismally low? On top of that, I believe it was their manager who revealed that the whole ordeal was only a marketing technique. They knew all along that the album was going to be released in stores under a major record label. A lot of people payed a LOT of money for it online to 'support the cause', because everyone thought they were blazing trails and giving the record industry the finger. But it turned out to be nothing but a bait and switch, so now many of their biggest fans feel betrayed.

attack of the:

Ah ha! I see what they did there. That kinda bums me out... Glad I didn't bother.

has anyone remixed NIN to NOT sound like it was made in 1990?

dgtheory: that really sux that you have to buy the tracks, then use garage band or logic. why not free tracks, and use whatever the hell you want?

They practically gave the album away for free, what else do you savages want?

attack of the: The fact that radiohead is charging 6 bucks to download all the pieces to only one song, in compressed iTunes format, is disgusting.

Good freaking gravy.

One, it's not a "compressed iTunes format". It's AAC/MP4. There's nothing iTunes specific about it. Secondly, a 128k AAC VBR file is on par with a 256k MP3 file, so it's nothing compressed like 128k MP3 about it either.

And if you're so disgusted then don't buy it. It's amazing you're acting like Radiohead is obligated to give the *pieces* of their songs away in, I'm presuming, FLAC for free with no strings attached. It's not enough you could download the album from their site and name the price. If you like Radiohead fine, throw them a bone, if you don't, then as they would say 'bugger off'. I don't know how anyone could be disgusted with them.

attack of the: How about no. Don't try to sound so high and mighty, because no one cares what you think either. You can not try to claim it's impossible for someone to hate a band just because YOU can't possibly see it that way. Many, many people hate this band with a white hot passion because the music literally angers them. I listen to them, but I've been losing more and more respect for them over the past several months for the career choices they've been making.

"Many, many people" more like them. Check it out sometime. :P

And I'll save you the time of responding back with "Stuff bought on iTunes is iPod specific:

"However, you don't need GarageBand to do the remix, all the stems are available in iTunes Plus and compatible with several music software problems."

In other words, it's DRM free AAC/MP4 at 256k VBR.

Derwood: has anyone remixed NIN to NOT sound like it was made in 1990?

Have you even listened to a NIN album since Pretty Hate Machine? Sure, there were some samples on PHM and Broken that sounded like Reznor was munching on Capt'n Crunch while playing Galaga, but I'd have to say everything since Broken has abandoned that computerized sound. Sure, there were a lot of electric elements to Year Zero, but it definitely didn't sound like it came out of 1990.

So your main point is it isn't compressed iTunes quality audio? Big deal, sorry for the mistake. The stupid thing is they're charging 6 bucks to remix one song when others are offering their songs in multitrack for free. Aside from that they didn't just 'give away' their album. They put up a very low quality version of it and everyone was tricked in to thinking it was their new business model, hence a lot of people donating large sums of money to support them, earning the band more money on this release than all of their previous ones combined. When the bands manager himself claimed that the online release was a publicity stunt people had the right to be pissed.

I love Radiohead. OK Computer is my favorite record I've ever bought. Don't like it, don't listen.

czerno: Derwood: has anyone remixed NIN to NOT sound like it was made in 1990?

Have you even listened to a NIN album since Pretty Hate Machine? Sure, there were some samples on PHM and Broken that sounded like Reznor was munching on Capt'n Crunch while playing Galaga, but I'd have to say everything since Broken has abandoned that computerized sound. Sure, there were a lot of electric elements to Year Zero, but it definitely didn't sound like it came out of 1990.

every new NIN album I hear sounds like it is from the early 90's, and it has nothing to do with computer noises

Derwood: every new NIN album I hear sounds like it is from the early 90's, and it has nothing to do with computer noises

Does it have something to do with emo-like "I'm so depressed I'm gonna yell and/or cut you and/or me" lyrics or 90's nihilism?

I talk shiat about NIN sometimes, but I really did like a lot of their stuff at first. I've like the music, most of it, but it's the lyrics and the yelling that gets to me, and the imagery. DRUGS!

Seriously, "The Perfect Drug" made me not like NIN anymore. That song is all sorts of stupid.

attack of the: So your main point is it isn't compressed iTunes quality audio? Big deal, sorry for the mistake. The stupid thing is they're charging 6 bucks to remix one song when others are offering their songs in multitrack for free. Aside from that they didn't just 'give away' their album. They put up a very low quality version of it and everyone was tricked in to thinking it was their new business model, hence a lot of people donating large sums of money to support them, earning the band more money on this release than all of their previous ones combined. When the bands manager himself claimed that the online release was a publicity stunt people had the right to be pissed.

Pissed about what? Did Thom Yorke wrong you in another life, Will Scarlet? Were does this intolerable hatred for Radiohead come from?

Pull your head out of your ass. How many times do I have to say I listen to Radiohead? Fans were pissed that they were fooled in to buying a low quality version of the record. Then they stopped the download offer and signed with a record label, which is the opposite of what everyone commended them for. This is a topic that's been discussed all over the web for months, go look it up

Bhasayate:
Seriously, "The Perfect Drug" made me not like NIN anymore. That song is all sorts of stupid.

Well, even Reznor thought The Perfect Drug sucked. But, if you don't like drug imagery/references, you probably shouldn't listen to NIN. Even Year Zero had references to futuristic government manufactured drugs, omg!

czerno: Bhasayate:
Seriously, "The Perfect Drug" made me not like NIN anymore. That song is all sorts of stupid.

Well, even Reznor thought The Perfect Drug sucked. But, if you don't like drug imagery/references, you probably shouldn't listen to NIN. Even Year Zero had references to futuristic government manufactured drugs, omg!

It's not that I don't like them at all, it's just that it's just so ever-present. I think they can be done and done well. "Hurt", for example, is a damn good song.

Glad to hear he though it sucks, too! I didn't know that ...

just came by to drop a bit of radiofag hate.
/they suck
//melodramatic egotistical emo crap.
///have a nice day! kthxbye

peter gabriel's been doing this for years