Bear in mind that Sonny and our Senators are Repubitards cut straight from the W mold.

I think it's idiotic to ban alcohol sales on Sunday. Hell, in my home state (AL) we can buy booze on Sunday - but not before 12:00 Noon - and then only in liquor stores (i.e. you can't buy hard booze in grocery stores, something I was amazed to see this past week in Iowa).

However, his editorial stats from what I'm assuming is a peer reviewed journal. Hardly "intoxicatingly stupid"

/oh, now I see what you did there... INTOXICATINGLY
//groan

MrKraclenutz: However, his editorial stats from what I'm assuming is a peer reviewed journal.

Yeah, y'see, that's the problem with assuming, especially when it comes to politicians - of any ilk. And most especially in Georgia.

Jay-sus, this guy makes me embarrassed for my home state. Of course, being from Georgia, I'm kind of used to it anyway.

CarolynLibrarian: MrKraclenutz: However, his editorial stats from what I'm assuming is a peer reviewed journal.

Yeah, y'see, that's the problem with assuming, especially when it comes to politicians - of any ilk. And most especially in Georgia.


Good point. Let me stress however that I think the government shouldn't be in the business of protecting me from ME.

Yes, I understand that he's trying to look out for people I might inadvertently kill because I'm out for a booze cruise one fine Sunday morning just as church lets out. But once we start down this road it's only inevitable that we end up like Great Britain.

I'll say no thanks to the nanny state.

AJPH is a decent journal. However, someone like Sonny Perdue could not possibly read and comprehend it appropriately (certainly some people on his staff should be able to, but that's not entirely likely either). It seems to me that he just ripped a quote or two out of there without taking the time to actually look or comprehend their statistics.

Does allowing Sunday drink sales mean that alcohol-related incidents will increase on Sundays? Of course. Does that mean that the amount of incidents will be significantly larger (in a statistical sense) than on any other day of the week? No, probably not.

If Perdue was really serious about getting rid of all alcohol on Sundays, we wouldn't be able to go into restaurants with Sunday sales licenses. I also doubt he realizes the exact amount of money that the state is losing in taxes due to military members and their friends taking advantage of Class Six shops on the numerous bases throughout the state, which fall under Federal jurisdiction and thus can take advantage of Sunday sales (and no tax!).

But these are all ancillary arguments. The problem here is that Sunday has been singled out because it is considered to be holy, or sacred, or whatever else you want to call it. I don't see LDS's or Jehovah's Witnesses campaigning to ban sales on Saturday, nor do I see any secular groups (apart from MADD) campaigning to get rid of liquor sales altogether.

I really wish that our policymakers here in GA had a few brain cells. Sigh.

MrKraclenutz: Good point. Let me stress however that I think the government shouldn't be in the business of protecting me from ME.

Seconded. Mind your business, gov.

melopene: AJPH is a decent journal. However, someone like Sonny Perdue could not possibly read and comprehend it appropriately (certainly some people on his staff should be able to, but that's not entirely likely either). It seems to me that he just ripped a quote or two out of there without taking the time to actually look or comprehend their statistics.

Does allowing Sunday drink sales mean that alcohol-related incidents will increase on Sundays? Of course. Does that mean that the amount of incidents will be significantly larger (in a statistical sense) than on any other day of the week? No, probably not.

If Perdue was really serious about getting rid of all alcohol on Sundays, we wouldn't be able to go into restaurants with Sunday sales licenses. I also doubt he realizes the exact amount of money that the state is losing in taxes due to military members and their friends taking advantage of Class Six shops on the numerous bases throughout the state, which fall under Federal jurisdiction and thus can take advantage of Sunday sales (and no tax!).

But these are all ancillary arguments. The problem here is that Sunday has been singled out because it is considered to be holy, or sacred, or whatever else you want to call it. I don't see LDS's or Jehovah's Witnesses campaigning to ban sales on Saturday, nor do I see any secular groups (apart from MADD) campaigning to get rid of liquor sales altogether.

I really wish that our policymakers here in GA had a few brain cells. Sigh.

Well said.

/subby

I think the editorial is actually pretty well reasoned, but in the end it hides from its own logic. Simply put - if allowing the sale of alcohol on a certain day will significantly increase alcohol related incidents for that day (duh), why not ban alcohol sales on every day of the week?

Of course, I think that would be stupid, as history has taught us, but the logic of the article can't help but head in that direction. And I don't think the Governor wants to bring back prohibition, so we're left wondering what his real reasons are. Call me cynical, but I'd hazard a guess that Governor Pray-For-Rain wishes to keep Sunday holy by not allowing the riff raff to poison themselves on Jesus Day^TM.

So, by this line of logic, ban ALL alcohol sales except for a one hour window on Saturday night from 6-7PM. This should lead to a drop in alcohol related problems all the other times, right?

I want to remember that King James (of the King James Bible fame) wanted to ban soccer and other sports on Sunday because it was the Sabbath.

That's the only reason any of these Blue Laws still exist, at the core - Sunday is church day, and you shouldn't be buying your Sam Adams seasonal (mmm...) when you should be at church.

/not religious
//wants to buy his alcohols whenever he wants

TFA: If you have ever comforted the parents or grandparents of a young person lost in a DUI crash, then you know that the cost of this proposal is too great and the damage it stands to inflict is too heavy a burden for innocent families to bear.

Because people don't get into a DUI crash Monday through Saturday, right?

farking dumbass.

Good for you Sonny!

People that are too stupid to buy alcohol before Sunday are probably better off not drinking.

heh oddly enough there is a prohibition thing on the history channel so im getting a kick out of these replies

/did you ever wonder why it is a crime to get high?
//prolly not that obscure for fark

He's making more of an argument that liquor sales should be illegal all days of te week. Then no one could drive drunk.

Descartes: Good for you Sonny!

People that are too stupid to buy alcohol before Sunday are probably better off not drinking.

wait... what

Humean_Nature: I think the editorial is actually pretty well reasoned, but in the end it hides from its own logic. Simply put - if allowing the sale of alcohol on a certain day will significantly increase alcohol related incidents for that day (duh), why not ban alcohol sales on every day of the week?

Exactly. Great point.

Sonny Perdue is a farking moron. He's yet another Christian Theocrat who has no respect for freedom.

Descartes: Good for you Sonny!

People that are too stupid to buy alcohol before Sunday are probably better off not drinking.

Remember that sometimes Saturdays last for a really long time.

Aarontology: Remember that sometimes Saturdays last for a really long time.

That's just the hangover from Friday talking to you.

Shaggy_C: He's making more of an argument that liquor sales should be illegal all days of te week. Then no one could drive drunk.

I say we ban driving!

Outshined_One: Shaggy_C: He's making more of an argument that liquor sales should be illegal all days of te week. Then no one could drive drunk.

I say we ban driving!

cant drive if there are no roads I say we ban roads!

As a fellow republican, I can completely understand how an anti-nanny state repubican would see this as logical.

Just kidding. Not a republican.

I live 20 miles south of Georgia (Tallahassee) and just got back from the liquor store so I'm really getting a kick...


/Chimay blue FTW

praise be white jesus

This just shows how stupid I am. I thought purchasing alcohol and drinking and driving were two different things. If I follow his argument correctly shouldn't he be pushing to ban alcohol sales on Fridays and Saturdays. I bet there are a lot more drunk driving accidents on those days. Sunday alcohol bans are all about religion and this DUI argument is completely disingenuous.

Jesus's first miracle was turning water into wine...

Why does Sonny hate Jesus?

I think the governor is right in this situation. if fact, those numbers are so persuasive, perhaps we should stop selling alcohol on Friday and Saturday too. Just think of all the lives that would be saved. It would be nice if kids could have fun on the weekends without worrying about having alcohol forced on them or being hit by drunk drivers.

Descartes: Good for you Sonny!

People that are too stupid to buy alcohol before Sunday are probably better off not drinking.

I knew that it was Saturday, and that I'd be wanting to drink today (I do). But I was too damned lazy to drive to the liquor store. Time to hit up the wine reserves (as in backup wine, not good wine).

I go to Purdue and we would love nothing more than Sunday booze. It leads to a lot of Saturday night drunk driving to make sure there is enough stock.

/Oh, Georgia
//and Perdue

Cool! Another original Republican-bashing thread.

Libs are so farking predictable. And funny. Laughing at you, not with you.

/Sunday anti-alcohol sales laws are really stupid and out-dated.
//Going outside now. Play nice kids.

Eh.. being military, I have no problem waddling my ass down to the BX and buying booze on Sundays, even in states where it is forbidden.

/FSM bless the USA

MAN UP, NANCY!

Farking shiat, I'm one of the biggest right-wingers on Fark, and I hate shiat like this.

FTFA:

The Republican principle of individual freedom is just as important to me as it is to my colleagues in the legislature,

Bullshiat. Start acting like true Republican and knock it off with this nanny-state crap.

Yes, DUI-related deaths are major tragedies, so how about increasing the penalties for people who commit such acts?

Descartes: People that are too stupid to buy alcohol before Sunday are probably better off not drinking.


I give that troll attempt a 2/10.

Haven't you ever made a beer run during halftime on Sunday?

TheCid: Sonny Perdue is a farking moron. He's yet another Christian Theocrat who has no respect for freedom.

Not only that, but he pissed off the rednecks that got him elected in the first place.

governor fathead is a non-smoking, non-drinking farktard. the first thing he did when he got into office was raise taxes on alcohol and tobacco to make up for a budget shortfall. why not? not like he was offending his bible-humping constituency. i can't wait for him to retire.

kradio: governor fathead is a non-smoking, non-drinking farktard. the first thing he did when he got into office was raise taxes on alcohol and tobacco to make up for a budget shortfall. why not? not like he was offending his bible-humping constituency. i can't wait for him to retire.


The libs here in Washington are just as bad...state-run liquor stores (most of them aren't open on Sunday) and lousy smoking bans.

"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

- Benjamin Franklin

Funny isn't it how much the bible thumpers like Perdue and condescending liberals have in common? Smoking bans and booze bans? Why won't government let us make our own choices? Simple, choice is power!

that guy should stick to raising chickens.

The_Sponge: "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

- Benjamin Franklin

You do realize that man invented beer and not god, right?

OMG he's a republican that means he's teh stoopid!

It's that kind of elitist mindset that lost the last election to bush...good job dems!

lord-humungus: OMG he's a republican that means he's teh stoopid!

It's that kind of elitist mindset that lost the last election to bush...good job dems!

way to miss the point, troll

phillydrifter: The_Sponge: "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

- Benjamin Franklin

You do realize that man invented beer and not god, right?


Ah...but God created man and gave him the talent to make beer.

Pastor Sponge is here to answer all your questions.

I propose an addendum to the 21st Amendment. No state legislature may imopse banning the sale of alcohol on any day of the week.

I also propose a new Constitutional Amendment to erase every "Blue" law in every state in the U.S. past, present and future.

The trick there would be to identify and define what constitutes a "Blue" law. A good start would be proof that the law was created on the basis of some flavor of religion.

phillydrifter: You do realize that man invented beer and not god, right?

On the contrary, there is much more evidence that mand created god than there is for the existance of god.

lord-humungus: OMG he's a republican that means he's I'm teh stoopid!

FTFY

cmb53208: Funny isn't it how much the bible thumpers like Perdue and condescending liberals have in common? Smoking bans and booze bans? Why won't government let us make our own choices? Simple, choice is power!

THIS
/moderate Dem who smokes and drinks

smeegle: The trick there would be to identify and define what constitutes a "Blue" law. A good start would be proof that the law was created on the basis of some flavor of religion.


Unfortunately, the blue laws here in Washington exist because there are greedy bastards down in Olympia who love their state-run liquor stores.

1) The prices suck.
2) The selection sucks.
3) There aren't enough locations.
4) Only a handful are open on Sundays, and they're closed on federal holidays.

I don't buy into the whole political thing. There are plenty of liberals who don't drink/smoke, as well as conservatives who don't drink/smoke. People who make arguments against either side with this article are just as big of a douchebag as the generalization they love to hate.

/as you were