Yeah, Jim, you've got to be "stretching the analogy" as I've heard him say to think, "Hmmm, if you're calling him Judas, THEN..." Asshole.

FTA: I believe that loyalty is a cardinal virtue. Nowhere in the world is loyalty so little revered and tittle-tattle so greatly venerated as in Washington.

I think that these past 8 years have shown what happens when public servants put "loyalty" to a political figure above "loyalty" to the American people.

Eat a bag of dicks, Carville. You're a smarmy little fark and a relentless partisan hack. You care no more about the average American than does Karl Rove.

Anyway, with any luck the Clintons will get crucified.

/no, not really
//just in the election

Why does anyone care what this bayou douchebag says? Everyone knows he is a Clintonoid - and I am pretty sure that Richardson and a WHOLE lot of other Dems are done being afraid of the Clintons - they are politically done.

Someone should tell this guy we're electing a president, not picking a prom queen.

Loyalty to whom? Constituents? Party? Country?

Robert Langdon you say? He has my vote.

Richardson's ulitmate loyalty, and debt, is to his PARTY and to THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, dickweed.

Someone needs to photoshop Carville's face onto Gollum snce he's a closer match than any of theo thers I've ever seen.

Headline: and Obama is Robert Langdon Rufus the Apostle

Fixed.

I rode in an elevator one time with Carville, so I'm getting a kick, etc.

I'm reposting because I think it's an awesome anecdote.

Carville famously advised Bob Casey, Sr. that he'd never be governor unless he went pro-choice. Casey's response?



/won the election, no thanks to Carville.
//PA had two candidates who won elections (other than Sr. and Jr.) based on having the same name as Bob Casey.
///One was an ice cream salesman.

Gee James, your statements about loyalty would ring a lot more true if you had called out George Stephanopoulos as a "Judas" when he publically criticized Clinton during the Lewinski scandal. Same goes for Dee Dee Myers.

But you didn't.
Selective indignation makes the indignation worthless.

March_Hare: Rufus the Apostle


White folks only want to hear the good shiat: life eternal, a place in God's Heaven. But as soon as they hear they're getting this good shiat from a black Jesus, they freak. And that, my friends, is called hypocrisy. A black man can steal your stereo, but he can't be your Savior.

Tempest in a very tiny teapot.

Didn't Richardson say that he thought superdelegates should support whoever their constituency voted for? Didn't New Mexico vote for Clinton? Isn't he a superdelegate?

/just asking

Anyone who decorates a room in their house like this:



Is a farktard dickbag. More Carville/Matlin house shiat here:

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shiat. WTF with the pic? Anyway, Carville's house looks like a nightmare acid trip.

Sir Roderick Glossop: FTA: I believe that loyalty is a cardinal virtue. Nowhere in the world is loyalty so little revered and tittle-tattle so greatly venerated as in Washington.

I think that these past 8 years have shown what happens when public servants put "loyalty" to a political figure above "loyalty" to the American people.

Eat a bag of dicks, Carville. You're a smarmy little fark and a relentless partisan hack. You care no more about the average American than does Karl Rove.

Yeah, that sent a little chill down my spine. A political figure who respects loyalty over everything else? No farking way in hell am I ever going to vote for THAT shiat. 8 years of that crap has taken us down many a dark path.

the_good_reverend_doctor: Didn't Richardson say that he thought superdelegates should support whoever their constituency voted for? Didn't New Mexico vote for Clinton? Isn't he a superdelegate?

/just asking

I think he means that if the American people voted for Obama and then the superdelegates over turn that at the convention...all hell is going to break loose.

I hope he realizes that he isn't helping Hillary with this, one bit.

the_good_reverend_doctor: Didn't Richardson say that he thought superdelegates should support whoever their constituency voted for? Didn't New Mexico vote for Clinton? Isn't he a superdelegate?


I hear he has said he endorses Obama and hopes he wins, but he is voting for Hillary because that is the way his constituency went. However I haven't done the research to find out if that is true or not.

My thoughts about political patronage was that it was to be frowned upon. Excluding the Clinton's POV. Along with all the lobbyist money H/dawg collected in campaign contributions, remains camp.

Richardson ran a presidential campaign and now is just supporting, in his view, a more qualified candidate. how does this make him a Judas.

The Clinton's must demand one sign over your soul, in blood, or no soup for you!

I fail to see how Richardson owes Hillary squat. She's never appointed him to anything.

the_good_reverend_doctor Quote 2008-03-29 12:00:04 PM
Didn't Richardson say that he thought superdelegates should support whoever their constituency voted for? Didn't New Mexico vote for Clinton? Isn't he a superdelegate?

/just asking


Frankly this stuff doesn't bother.

A) first off, ENDORSING someone isn't the same as voting at the convention floor. Richardson could conceivably way he wants Obama and endorse him but still vote for Hillary to honor the will of NM voters at the convention.

B) The point of the "supers should vote with their states" line is to say the supers shouldn't be autonmous and should all reflect the will of the voters. This only works if EVEYRONE is doing it. But given that none of the supers are following Richardson's advice, I don't see any reason why he should.

The follow your state line is only rational if a good majority of supers agree to do it.

the_good_reverend_doctor: Didn't Richardson say that he thought superdelegates should support whoever their constituency voted for? Didn't New Mexico vote for Clinton? Isn't he a superdelegate?

It was a 49/48 split in New Mexico. I don't think he's bound one way or another, really. I think the argument was about states that were 60/40 and supers ignoring the vast majority of the voters.

the amount disloyalty one has towards the clintons at this point is directly co-related the amount of loyalty one has for the country

Sir Roderick Glossop: FTA: I believe that loyalty is a cardinal virtue. Nowhere in the world is loyalty so little revered and tittle-tattle so greatly venerated as in Washington.

I think that these past 8 years have shown what happens when public servants put "loyalty" to a political figure above "loyalty" to the American people.

Eat a bag of dicks, Carville. You're a smarmy little fark and a relentless partisan hack. You care no more about the average American than does Karl Rove.

I wish more people had your attitude. Too many look at whether there is a "D" or an "R" after a politicians or pundits name and based upon which letter they find praise or condemn the man.

The oath is to the United States. Not to the Republican or Democratic party.

voltair's basterd luv child number 9 Quote 2008-03-29 12:31:30 PM
the amount disloyalty one has towards the clintons at this point is directly co-related the amount of loyalty one has for the country

tee hee hee

Correlated?

Anyone who decorates a room in their house like this:



Is a farktard dickbag. More Carville/Matlin house shiat here:

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no wonder they (douche bag and baguette) hate america

related it is

I believe that loyalty is a cardinal virtue. Nowhere in the world is loyalty so little revered and tittle-tattle so greatly venerated as in Washington.

I don't believe that's true. Plenty of people stick by "their man" as it is the only way to stay ahead.

I was a little-known political consultant until Bill Clinton made me. When he came upon hard times, I felt it my duty -- whatever my personal misgivings -- to stick by him

Did you have any other options James? Judging by how much you're still a hanger-on, no.

Was it a desperate gambit for attention?

No, it was another case of James just opening his mouth and letting whatever fly out. Usually it is Louisana floksy amusing, this time it was in bad taste.

Even Diane Sawyer took the analogy to the extreme, questioning, "Are you saying that he made a deal of some kind when you talk about 30 shekels?"

James you're the one that opened it up. Maybe you're too dumb to continue on with your terrible analogies to their logical conclusions?

*FLUSH*

(Bye, Carville)

Stupid Floppy Clownshoes: Anyone who decorates a room in their house like this:

Is a farktard dickbag. More Carville/Matlin house shiat here:

Link (new window)

Well, given it's those two, I imagine they democratically voted on decorations and he was out-voted 3(females) to 1(male) on every vote for PINK!

I think the country is sick of the typical Clinton politics. Things were a utopia when he was president. Clinton won't go down as one of the best presidents ever and his wife will not go down as a president, period.

Nemo's Brother: Clinton won't go down as one of the best presidents ever and his wife will not go down as a president, period.

if his wife would go down, we'd never have heard the name monica lewinsky

Outtaphase: Someone should tell this guy we're electing a president, not picking a prom queen.

Okay. This gets a THIS.

But he had been bought and paid for with 2 cabinet posts in the previous Clinton administration! How dare he act like a free man.

It does seem odd to me that Carville would choose now to vilify Richardson. I guess running against Hillary in the primaries wasn't as disloyal as supporting the people's choice.

It looks like a civil war's goin' down amongst our reptilian puppetmasters.

Was he wearing a lapel pin, or does he hate America?

obviously the central argument of carville's is that people should be loyal to "the clintons" - not an individual politician. would that include chelsea if she ran? bill's aunt's horse's second cousin? it's a silly, dishonest argument

lelio: I believe that loyalty is a cardinal virtue. Nowhere in the world is loyalty so little revered and tittle-tattle so greatly venerated as in Washington.

I don't believe that's true. Plenty of people stick by "their man" as it is the only way to stay ahead.

I am with Carville when he says that loyalty is a cardinal virtue. That's absolutely true. But I believe loyalty should be directed toward ideas, and not toward people.

I just think that all of us should come together with the realization that James Carville is a complete douche.

Ace Frehley's Ghost: I just think that all of us should come together with the realization that James Carville is a complete douche.

agreed

burndtdan

Ace Frehley's Ghost: I just think that all of us should come together with the realization that James Carville is a complete douche.

agreed

Yep

/Wasn't Carville the one who was so obsessed with Winona Ryder he called the women on his staff "Winonas"?

burndtdan, I concur.

biggest douche....in the universe....

Bill Richardson has always seemed like a good guy to me, as far as politicians go. I wish Obama'd pick him as his VP - but he's probably better off picking an old white senator; a chris dodd type, maybe. Actually, I'd be fairly satisfied with that ticket too.

unclejimbo827: Bill Richardson has always seemed like a good guy to me, as far as politicians go. I wish Obama'd pick him as his VP - but he's probably better off picking an old white senator; a chris dodd type, maybe. Actually, I'd be fairly satisfied with that ticket too.

Obama/Farkkhan 08!

THIS JUST IN: James Carville is an enormous worthless douchebag. Always has been. Watched him debate William F. Buckley once in person and he got his ass handed to him.