Good song.

Wow--someone greenlit a Stone Roses video. And I didn't even need to sell my soul.

Good taste, shoegazemitter.

Loved this song back in high school

Ah the summer of 1989. Wonderful.

I thought this song was "I wanna be a door" for ages till I got a copy of the album.

awfulperson: Wow--someone greenlit a Stone Roses video. And I didn't even need to sell my soul.

Good taste, shoegazemitter.

Is he already in you?

I always thought that video of this song was meant to be an homage to "Echoes" in the Pink Floyd Live at Pompeii movie.

But I smoke a lot of hash, so maybe it's just me.

It is a shame that the video could not be a great as the song. When this song first came out I would (half) jokingly refer to the song as my own personal anthem. For those who are wondering, yes, I really am that narcissistic.

Tabatha Static: I always thought that video of this song was meant to be an homage to "Echoes" in the Pink Floyd Live at Pompeii movie.

No, wait, that's not right... It was Fool's Gold that I was thinking of, not "I Wanna Be Adored."

/since most of it is the same footage, you can see how I made a mistake

//lazy stoners

thanks subby, now i wanna go and bang a drum

Note for Americans: You guys had 9/11 we had the Stone Roses second album.

I would kill for that Rickenbacker 4005.

Last time I saw one of those on Ebay it went for $4000.

"Love Spreads" is my favorite Stone Roses.

Also,remember Charlatans U.K.

They had that same dense trippy classic sound too.

Tigger: Note for Americans: You guys had 9/11 we had the Stone Roses second album.

Wow--really? Truth be told, I loved their second album. I mean, I understand it was a long time coming, and when it did, it sounded so completely different from previous releases; certainly makes sense people would be put-off.

but I really like what they did with it--a harder sound, more rhythm-and-bluesy...edgier, I thought. I've listened to that one more than I ever listened to the first ones.

/always likes the "wrong" albums

Funny.....


I currently play bass and keyboards in a band that is an on-going homage to Pink Floyd.

Specifically "Pompeii" era Floyd.

We also steal a lot from the "Kraut" rock band Ashra Tempel and Guru Guru type stuff.

Tigger: Note for Americans: You guys had 9/11 we had the Stone Roses second album.

Ed: Purple Rain

Shaun: No

Ed: Stone Roses

Shaun: No

Ed: But It's Second Coming

Shaun: I liked it!

awfulperson: Tigger: Note for Americans: You guys had 9/11 we had the Stone Roses second album.

Wow--really? Truth be told, I loved their second album. I mean, I understand it was a long time coming, and when it did, it sounded so completely different from previous releases; certainly makes sense people would be put-off.

but I really like what they did with it--a harder sound, more rhythm-and-bluesy...edgier, I thought. I've listened to that one more than I ever listened to the first ones.

/always likes the "wrong" albums

Ditto for me. My reasons might be a little more shady, as the first time I heard The Second Coming I was doing what the kids call "candy flipping" and I thought the intro to "Breaking into Heaven" was a skullfarker. From there I was sold. Hell the rest of the album isn't half-bad either.

So with that, can a "Second Coming" hater explain to me in great detail why it's widely-regarded as such a god-awful album?

See, I didn't like "Love Spreads" and all that as much. The first record really appealed to me...but then I like Syd Barrett, REM, Robyn Hitchcock and other more jangly stuff. The harder edge of the later record seemed almost forced to me. But I still liked the band.

I think their first album is great - I don't think theirs a song on there I don't like. 'Second Coming' took me a long, long time to get into. A lot of it sounds kinda jam bandy and John Squire's tone/effects sound weak and some of the songs sound very similar. That being said there are some real good songs on it.

A tragic story of how a band who distinguished themselves from the crowd by mixing old with new, then farked themselves over by wasting seven years before releasing a second, alienating CD.

Can Ian Brown sing? Not really. Not live.

afghanwhiggle
So with that, can a "Second Coming" hater explain to me in great detail why it's widely-regarded as such a god-awful album?

"Breaking Into Heaven" was an awesome opener. I'd just taken a Milton class at UCLA, so I "got it," and appreciated it as a very dark song.
"Ten Storey Love Song" was also a great tune. I was hoping for more of a progression from their first album, and to me, this was a good sign.
"Your Star Will Shine" also seemed to be a logical progression from the sound of the first album.
I was very let down by the rest of the album. I know a lot of you sort of got locked on the Stone Roses through the pseudo-soul of "Fool's Gold," which to me was sort of an overdone treatment of an okay song. The bluesy vibe of "Second Coming" seemed like a total discarding of everything that gave the band their initial popularity and their niche. Rather than putting together a collection of songs that were taking the sound of the first album, they biatched and moaned and dosed themselves for seven years while they hashed out their legal crap with Silvertone, then, once free, unleashed a CD of overproduced filler that had no intention of bringing back the surge that swept them up in the first place. The Madchester craze had passed, and no one expected them to bust out a Charlatans or Soup Dragons album. They expected a better Stone Roses that had refined their signature sound into something broader and compelling in the lengthy gap.

They wanted to go Hollywood, which they did in grand fashion (the coke, the drinking, all while raising families). No one is attracted to that sort of thing as "fresh." Especially when it's a band that built its reputation on an updated Byrds/Beatles/Hollies type sound. Not to mention, Ian Brown couldn't sing the high stuff anymore once he'd practiced his "deep" voice for seven years. He went off pitch regularly during live shows anyway.

First heard this song on a certain mind altering substance that comes on pieces of paper. I really thought he wanted to be a "dord". I sure had a tough time getting this one through my head that night.

1989 seems so very long ago.

"Fools Gold" is better.
that is all.


/just discovered The Stone Roses, thanks to Fark!!
// yay and thanks Fark and Farkers!!

afghanwhiggle: awfulperson: Tigger: Note for Americans: You guys had 9/11 we had the Stone Roses second album.

Wow--really? Truth be told, I loved their second album. I mean, I understand it was a long time coming, and when it did, it sounded so completely different from previous releases; certainly makes sense people would be put-off.

but I really like what they did with it--a harder sound, more rhythm-and-bluesy...edgier, I thought. I've listened to that one more than I ever listened to the first ones.

/always likes the "wrong" albums

Ditto for me. My reasons might be a little more shady, as the first time I heard The Second Coming I was doing what the kids call "candy flipping" and I thought the intro to "Breaking into Heaven" was a skullfarker. From there I was sold. Hell the rest of the album isn't half-bad either.

So with that, can a "Second Coming" hater explain to me in great detail why it's widely-regarded as such a god-awful album?

Oh, those wacky kids! What will they think of next? I'm serious, keep those ideas coming kids.

AgentOrangeDrink: Oh, those wacky kids! What will they think of next? I'm serious, keep those ideas coming kids.

From what I've heard, they're starting to use keyboards like guitars. If I were you I'd pray for disease.

Unhip1:

Outstanding sir. Great explanation of the hype, although I gotta admit, that's more of a reason for critics not to like it, instead of the newly anointed like myself...

However, if the man can't sing live, then that explains a lot as to why they fell off the map. Thanks for the insight.

While The Stone Roses is full of great songs, in some ways I think Second Coming is a better album; it has a great flow, rather than sounding like a collection of great individual tracks.

Well....maybe it's not *better* than the first album, but it's certainly not as bad as some people made out.

There, I've said it.

ah, first song I ever played on my bass. great great bass riff, even though I like the one in "she bangs the drums" better

Third_Uncle_Eno: "Fools Gold" is better.

"I am the resurrection" is even better.

Either The Current in Minnesota reads Fark, or subby listens to The Current. They played this yesterday. To see this played reference twice within a day is weird.

The Current rocks. I live in Dallas, death of any good radio...

Good song, but his t-shirt reminds me of something my 80 year old grandma wears.

Always thought it sounded like "I wanna be your dog".

Kwai Lo: First heard this song on a certain mind altering substance that comes on pieces of paper

a summons?

Second Coming is a very good album, but it suffers as any second album would in comparison to TSR. It's like producing a first novel, the War and Peace of its age, and some time later your second book ends up a little more Crime and Punishment, both a great books, but everybody claims to have read War and Peace.

Didn't help that by the time they released it those wannabes Oasis were breaking but that still takes nothing away from the greatest intro in rock music...still enough to send a shiver down the spine when the bass starts up.

Forgive me, i am old and spent a lot of time in therapy.

This album is at the top just behind Nevermind..Named my son Ian after Ian Brown..Actually is was a combination of Ian Brown and Æon Flux which was also popular on MTV not too long after this album release. Thought better of the ladder spelling since his middle name was Aslan. Yes...I smoked..

Me : He wants to be a what? A dord?
Rob: Yeah. Adored.
Me : What the hell is a dord?
Rob: You don't know what adored is?
Me : I've never heard of a dord.
Rob: You know, like loved, respected.
Me : What, a dord is loved and respected?
Rob: Yes! Are you farking with me?
Me : No! I've never heard of it.
Rob: You've never heard of adored!? "Oh come let us adore him?!"
Me : Ohhhhh...ADORED!
Rob: Yes! Adored!
Me : I thought he was saying a DORD.
Rob: What? Dude, shut the fark up.