Service GUARANTEES citizenship!

Article doesn't say he was illegal. Said he had a green card, there's a big difference.

This will be settled in his favor.

"...he eventually made it back to Southern California and got his green card when he was 13."

Dumbmitter's head seen exploding due to being a tard.

Welcome aboard my friend, I would salute you, but that would make me a hypocrite.

Never in the military.

PacManDreaming: "...he eventually made it back to Southern California and got his green card when he was 13."

Dumbmitter's head seen exploding due to being a tard.

He got his green card when he was 13. He had lived in the United Sattes for a time prior to that. Therefore, he WAS an illegal immigrant as submitter said.

Cyclometh: Article doesn't say he was illegal. Said he had a green card, there's a big difference.

Green card = The Constitution
It's just a piece of paper right?

I salute this man as well, but unfortunately, without his uniform he will still treated as a second class citizen in the US. All he has to do is drive down any street in Phoenix AZ, the sheriff's dept will stop him just because of the way he looks.

They wont care what he did in Iraq.

I hope he doesn't have a Tillman.

CruiserTwelve: He got his green card when he was 13. He had lived in the United Sattes for a time prior to that. Therefore, he WAS an illegal immigrant as submitter said.

FTFA: "Ramos-Villalta fled El Salvador's civil war in 1989 with his family as a young boy and lived in the United States for a time. Though he returned to El Salvador with his mother while his father stayed in California to work, he eventually made it back to Southern California and got his green card when he was 13."

Nowhere does it say he was illegal. Chances are, he and his family had Refugee Status and weren't illegal aliens.

Godscrack: I salute this man as well, but unfortunately, without his uniform he will still treated as a second class citizen in the US. All he has to do is drive down any street in Phoenix AZ, the sheriff's dept will stop him just because of the way he looks.

They wont care what he did in Iraq.

I just hope he doesn't end up like this man.

Godscrack: Cyclometh: Article doesn't say he was illegal. Said he had a green card, there's a big difference.

Green card = The Constitution
It's just a piece of paper right?

I salute this man as well, but unfortunately, without his uniform he will still treated as a second class citizen in the US. All he has to do is drive down any street in Phoenix AZ, the sheriff's dept will stop him just because of the way he looks.

They wont care what he did in Iraq.


He'd be safe in Aguila (new window).

Former illegal serves in combat in Iraq and yet true Americans Rush and Hannity have not worn the uniform. Go figure.

PacManDreaming: eventually

Do you know what that word means?

You know, Hillary Clinton was an illegal immigrant to. Oh wait, I misspoke. Sometimes I forget which person has done what things in their life.

/Hillary's the new Ron Paul
//So no thread is safe
///Give the guy a farking medal

Welcome.

CruiserTwelve: He got his green card when he was 13. He had lived in the United Sattes for a time prior to that. Therefore, he WAS an illegal immigrant as submitter said.

I'm no immigration lawyer, but according to TFA:

Ramos-Villalta fled El Salvador's civil war in 1989 with his family as a young boy and lived in the United States for a time

Political refugees, allowed to skirt many immigration laws

Though he returned to El Salvador with his mother while his father stayed in California

Went back to native country with a parent, still nothing illegal

he eventually made it back to Southern California and got his green card when he was 13

Unclear, but he would have probably had to get his green card BEFORE he could have emigrated again

Ergo, legal immigrant. TFA even mentions that lots of people with green cards serve. Hell, I've known a lot of people with student visas who eventually got citizenship. It isn't uncommon at all.

Salutations to this guy, he certainly deserves citizenship more so than many Americans. But a poster child for illegal immigration? Far from it.

Of course we COULD start something similar to the French Foreign Legion, where foreigners could earn citizenship through military service. BOY how you liberals would howl at such a notion, completely ignoring your stance on this individual. Illegal immigrants, after all, must not be asked to contribute, they must be given the right to vote for Democrats offering them welfare, healthcare, child care, and all the other kinds of care liberals are convinced we are not capable of providing ourselves.

PenguinTheRed: BOY how you liberals would howl at such a notion, completely ignoring your stance on this individual. Illegal immigrants, after all, must not be asked to contribute, they must be given the right to vote for Democrats offering them welfare, healthcare, child care, and all the other kinds of care liberals are convinced we are not capable of providing ourselves.

Done with the straw dude? You beat the living shiat out of that strawman you managed to build there. Congratulations, now you are a man.

Now go play with your Freeper friends where you can make up more stories about the evil libtards believe and do.

PenguinTheRed: Salutations to this guy, he certainly deserves citizenship more so than many Americans. But a poster child for illegal immigration? Far from it.

My friend Eric is my poster boy for illegal immigration.

Nothing special, just a really cool, nice, hardworking guy.

p.s. You've got straw all over ya.

PenguinTheRed: CruiserTwelve: He got his green card when he was 13. He had lived in the United Sattes for a time prior to that. Therefore, he WAS an illegal immigrant as submitter said.

I'm no immigration lawyer, but according to TFA:

Ramos-Villalta fled El Salvador's civil war in 1989 with his family as a young boy and lived in the United States for a time

Political refugees, allowed to skirt many immigration laws

Though he returned to El Salvador with his mother while his father stayed in California

Went back to native country with a parent, still nothing illegal

he eventually made it back to Southern California and got his green card when he was 13

Unclear, but he would have probably had to get his green card BEFORE he could have emigrated again

Ergo, legal immigrant. TFA even mentions that lots of people with green cards serve. Hell, I've known a lot of people with student visas who eventually got citizenship. It isn't uncommon at all.

Salutations to this guy, he certainly deserves citizenship more so than many Americans. But a poster child for illegal immigration? Far from it.

Of course we COULD start something similar to the French Foreign Legion, where foreigners could earn citizenship through military service. BOY how you liberals would howl at such a notion, completely ignoring your stance on this individual. Illegal immigrants, after all, must not be asked to contribute, they must be given the right to vote for Democrats offering them welfare, healthcare, child care, and all the other kinds of care liberals are convinced we are not capable of providing ourselves.

Stop assuming shiat. People will refuse to agree with you if you assume they will. Get over yourself. We are not that different.

CruiserTwelve: PacManDreaming: "...he eventually made it back to Southern California and got his green card when he was 13."

Dumbmitter's head seen exploding due to being a tard.

He got his green card when he was 13. He had lived in the United Sattes for a time prior to that. Therefore, he WAS an illegal immigrant as submitter said.

Just because you don't have a green card, doesn't mean you're illegal. He was apparently an asylee.

atlanta_ufo: Former illegal serves in combat in Iraq and yet true Americans Rush and Hannity have not worn the uniform. Go figure.

Just like the Clintons and Obamas or Edwards or Colmes or whomever. Retard. I'd name some liberal popular talks how hosts but there really are none.
Your retardedness is simply retardedly amazingly retarded. Kill yourself.

wejash: Done with the straw dude? You beat the living shiat out of that strawman you managed to build there. Congratulations, now you are a man.

Okay, I went with details supplied in the article. If you can shed any further lights on the situation please do; the straw is on you.

He's just doing a job that Americans don't want to do...

I've always said that America should allow illegals to serve and grant them immediate citizenship. Nobody, especially people who never served, can claim they don't deserve it. I believe the French Foreign Legion does something similar. I see nothing wrong with recruiting illegals, especially since it will provided them with more skills and education.

This guy wasn't an illegal though, I don't think

He came in quasi-legally, as anyone who recalls the chaos of the El Salvador/US situation will know. Salvadorans kind of got a nod-&-wink when they entered the country illegally, usually fleeing the death squads.

Then he got, legally, his green card, or "resident alien" status, as all you non-citizen Canadians and Australians are aware of. As a resident alien, he is perfectly entitled to public education, employment, and service in the military, subject to certain requirements, which he seems to have fulfilled.

Now he's a legal citizen, following honorable service to his country. It's a non-issue, and there doesn't seem to have been any real controversy, except for his being deployed to Iraq. What's the big deal?

They're...takin'...our...jobs?

There's no better cannon-fodder than wetbacks. If they survive, we can always send them back to their Mexican dirt-farms.

Go USA!

Cyclometh: Article doesn't say he was illegal. Said he had a green card, there's a big difference.

Yes, but actually putting the TRUTH in the headline wouldn't have allowed the dumbass Submitter to make an idiotic partisan insult. So clearly, what was needed was a lie.

PenguinTheRed: wejash: Done with the straw dude? You beat the living shiat out of that strawman you managed to build there. Congratulations, now you are a man.

Okay, I went with details supplied in the article. If you can shed any further lights on the situation please do; the straw is on you.

Details? Like BOY how you liberals would howl at such a notion, completely ignoring your stance on this individual. Illegal immigrants, after all, must not be asked to contribute, they must be given the right to vote for Democrats offering them welfare, healthcare, child care, and all the other kinds of care liberals are convinced we are not capable of providing ourselves.

Or...Oh, wait. Gee. You decided to respond to the argument I wasn't making rather than defend your idiotic cartoon mind-reading skills which I was criticizing.

A two-in-a-row straw man winner!

Pick a prize, you win at FreeperMan tonight!

wejash:
A two-in-a-row straw man winner!

Pick a prize, you win at FreeperMan tonight!

Look doofus, if you have something to say, say it. But enough with the tossing around terms like "straw man", when it's clear that you don't have a single goddamn idea what the phrase even means.

The bottom line is that people like you simply want to assume that all Hispanics are "illegal". There's nothing in the article that even remotely supports your inherent racism. END OF STORY. There really isn't anything more to say. Believe it or not, there are plenty of people in this country who aren't citizens yet but who also aren't "illegal aliens". I know your brain is having a tough time comprehending this, but trust me, it's true.

Bag of Hammers: They're...takin'...our...jobs?

They'ra takin' yur job!1!1!!

/Massive gay orgy in 3...2...

PenguinTheRed: Of course we COULD start something similar to the French Foreign Legion, where foreigners could earn citizenship through military service. BOY how you liberals would howl at such a notion, completely ignoring your stance on this individual. Illegal immigrants, after all, must not be asked to contribute, they must be given the right to vote for Democrats offering them welfare, healthcare, child care, and all the other kinds of care liberals are convinced we are not capable of providing ourselves.

Umm...Didn't Senator Dodd sort of, you know, already propose that (it was combined with a "going to college for some odd years as an alternative" thing, IIRC)?

And, last I checked, that plan got widespread support from the left. Their only concern with it was whether or not it was morally acceptable to send illegals to fight in our place. Some landed on "No", but most landed on "Well, if they are willing to do it and the right won't stop being douchebags...fine."

So...maybe you ought to think about what group has issues wth the idea.

Lou Dobbs still wants to send him home.

atlanta_ufo: Former illegal serves in combat in Iraq and yet true Americans Rush and Hannity have not worn the uniform. Go figure.

If anything, he's more American than those morans. Least he had the testicular fortitude to put on the uniform.

I appreciate his service, but if he was an illegal immigrant, then he needs to be butchered right in front of his family in a national church service broadcast live on Fox News.

Corpus Delecti: The bottom line is that people like you simply want to assume that all Hispanics are "illegal". There's nothing in the article that even remotely supports your inherent racism. END OF STORY. There really isn't anything more to say. Believe it or not, there are plenty of people in this country who aren't citizens yet but who also aren't "illegal aliens". I know your brain is having a tough time comprehending this, but trust me, it's true.

I think you're a little confused about the liberal position on this issue. Go email Limbaugh and he'll tell you what you should think about it.

Hey assmitter, wanting to follow the law doesn't make you a conservative. Lots of people think that ILLEGAL immigration is wrong, while LEGAL immigration is A-OK.

And the guy wasn't illegal, so assmitter is a stinking pile of FAIL.

great job assuming this guy was illegal. do you assume this for all hispanic looking people? or have you come to the realization most hispanic people in this country are legal. maybe it was an honest mistake submitter, or you're a stereotyping sonofabich.

PenguinTheRed: CruiserTwelve: He got his green card when he was 13. He had lived in the United Sattes for a time prior to that. Therefore, he WAS an illegal immigrant as submitter said.

I'm no immigration lawyer, but according to TFA:

Ramos-Villalta fled El Salvador's civil war in 1989 with his family as a young boy and lived in the United States for a time

Political refugees, allowed to skirt many immigration laws

Though he returned to El Salvador with his mother while his father stayed in California

Went back to native country with a parent, still nothing illegal

he eventually made it back to Southern California and got his green card when he was 13

Unclear, but he would have probably had to get his green card BEFORE he could have emigrated again

Ergo, legal immigrant. TFA even mentions that lots of people with green cards serve. Hell, I've known a lot of people with student visas who eventually got citizenship. It isn't uncommon at all.

Salutations to this guy, he certainly deserves citizenship more so than many Americans. But a poster child for illegal immigration? Far from it.

Of course we COULD start something similar to the French Foreign Legion, where foreigners could earn citizenship through military service. BOY how you liberals would howl at such a notion, completely ignoring your stance on this individual. Illegal immigrants, after all, must not be asked to contribute, they must be given the right to vote for Democrats offering them welfare, healthcare, child care, and all the other kinds of care liberals are convinced we are not capable of providing ourselves.

If you want to start a Foreign Legion, I'm not gonna stop you. It worked out pretty well for France, in the sense that after the recruits stopped doing things like selling their uniforms for beer money, they got to be some epic-level badasses and probably better-quality soldiers than the French proper.

Submitter, Why would conservatives have an issue with this? It's an honorable and legal way of gaining U.S. citizenship.

>> Heads of conservatives seen exploding due to record levels of disgust and pride at the same time

Not the heads of conservative politicians though.

Their business constitancy loves cheap labor illegal immigrants and when the businessmen speak con politicians jump.

Cons let millions of illegals into the country when they controlled ALL of the government.

It would have been real simple to keep them out too but they didn't lift a finger.

They're taking our jobs!

/farking hypocrites

He was an illegal immigrant, but he served 2 tours of duty in Iraq and he will soon ship out to Afghanistan. Heads of liberals seen exploding due to record levels of pride and disgust at the same time.

/ftfy

Sorry but where I live, the illegals are much more harder working, much more appreciative, and are pretty damn loyal due to their status.

Just pay them the fair and appropriate wage, teach them the trade, and they'll work just as hard if not harder than any self entitled 15min cigarette breaking American.

I don't get it. Conservatives problem with illegal immigration is the "illegal" part, mostly because of the "non-contributing member of society" part. They have no problem with immigrants who become citizens.

Just like the debate that is raging in this country over illegal immigration, a large percentage of the people posting have ignored the fact that this guy was a LEGAL alien. One has to prove a legal status to join the military. I for one salute people that accelerate their path to citizenship by LEGALY entering the country and selflessly serving it. Nothing to see here people (except an honorable US Marine), move along.

xkillyourfacex: They have no problem with immigrants who become citizens.

Horseshiat. Conservatives all over the U.S. are screaming at the top of their lungs that too many non-white, non-english-speaking, non-Xian immigrants are being allowed into the U.S. They take every opportunity to blur the line between preventing illegal immigration and hampering legal immigration.

Don't believe me? Just Google "browning of America" and see it for yourself.

Some people are under the delusion that America is somehow traditionally supposed to be a WASP nation.

Oh...and yes, Submittard's a moran, and we of the REAL Moderate Left would like to take this moment to distance ourselves from hacks like this.

We shouldn't be too hard on Tardmitter. A surprising percentage of the nation does not know the difference between legal immigration and illegal immigration. They're too busy shouting racism to learn elementary concepts like 'Rule of Law'.

Anyone who wants to faithfully serve our armed services for two tours of duties in this age, damn well deserves citizenship.