Because Dubya is sure to tell congress to fast track Obama's an Hillary's legislation and sign it in the Rose Garden with his purple crayon on national TV!

maddogdelta: Because Dubya is sure to tell congress to fast track Obama's an Hillary's legislation and sign it in the Rose Garden with his purple crayon on national TV!

So, because the President may not agree, they won't even try?

Last One Left: So, because the President may not agree, they won't even try?

why would they try when any success from it would be credited to Bush and not them?

As if ANY politician has any interest in actually helping out the country over what will make them look good.

Last One Left: maddogdelta: Because Dubya is sure to tell congress to fast track Obama's an Hillary's legislation and sign it in the Rose Garden with his purple crayon on national TV!

So, because the President may not agree, they won't even try?

why wouldn't they wait until the inevitable democratic president that won't resist the changes?

bush has made his plans clear for the economy, and this close to the change up, there's no point in dealing with him.

submitter: Instead of crafting legislation now, Obama and Hillary get on their soapboxes and tell us what they'll do to fix the economy 10 months from now

Instead of trying to help the country now, trollmitter is busy perfecting the technique of spinning anything at all into a partisan attack.

IAmRight: As if ANY politician has any interest in actually helping out the country over what will make them look good.

I thought Obama was better than that. It's what many seem to think anyway.

burndtdan: why wouldn't they wait until the inevitable democratic president that won't resist the changes?

bush has made his plans clear for the economy, and this close to the change up, there's no point in dealing with him.

Yes, but help is needed now, no? Besides, what would it hurt to try? Isn't that what they get paid to do?

If they can't or won't cooperate with difficult people from their own country, how are they expected to do the same with those from foreign countries?

Last One Left: Yes, but help is needed now, no?

of course help is needed now. but that's the point. any help they could get now would be a protracted battle that would last until the election anyways. the president sure as shiat isn't going to do anything, he's made that clear, and the republicans in congress are not going to start rocking the party boat in an election year.

help is needed now, but help isn't coming now, no matter what they do about it. enjoy your $600, hope we all get through the next few months in one piece.

Psst: Partisan tards

There are 533 other members of Congress who are still available to craft legislation.

The Executive holds power over federal institutions like the Fed that Congress doesn't affect.

Making a speech does not automatically prevent you from working on legislation today.

Making a speech could provide inspiration to others working on legislation today.

It is not uncommon that presidential candidates focus on their campaigns.

What is John McCain doing?

burndtdan: help is needed now, but help isn't coming now, no matter what they do about it.

Ah, the Audacity of Hope.

enjoy your $600, hope we all get through the next few months in one piece.

I don't get $600, since I'm not an American citizen. I do get a 75% rebate though, which is good.

Ron Paul Revere: Skleenar: What is John McCain doing?

Slipping into senility.

Slipping? Does a bunker-buster "slip" into the concrete? Did the Yucatan asteroid "slip" beneath the gulf waters? Would you "slip" into Scarlett Johanssen?

Your choice of words. It lacks pizazz.

Last One Left: burndtdan: help is needed now, but help isn't coming now, no matter what they do about it.

Ah, the Audacity of Hope.

enjoy your $600, hope we all get through the next few months in one piece.

I don't get $600, since I'm not an American citizen. I do get a 75% rebate though, which is good.

well at least you've got that going for you.

/my hope is for after the election, there's not much use of hoping while chimpy mcflightsuit is in power.

Giblet: Ron Paul Revere: Skleenar: What is John McCain doing?

Slipping into senility.

Slipping? Does a bunker-buster "slip" into the concrete? Did the Yucatan asteroid "slip" beneath the gulf waters? Would you "slip" into Scarlett Johanssen?

Your choice of words. It lacks pizazz.

he's hitting senility like the fist of an angry god?

burndtdan: he's hitting senility like the fist of an angry god?

He's plowed into senility like Thor's hammer through wet cardboard.

burndtdan: Last One Left: burndtdan: help is needed now, but help isn't coming now, no matter what they do about it.

Ah, the Audacity of Hope.

enjoy your $600, hope we all get through the next few months in one piece.

I don't get $600, since I'm not an American citizen. I do get a 75% rebate though, which is good.

well at least you've got that going for you.

/my hope is for after the election, there's not much use of hoping while chimpy mcflightsuit is in power.

I'm fairly certain that McCain's true agenda has little/nothing to do with how he's campaigning.

Hillary will continue the Chimpy agenda. That much is certain. Why else would she cockblock her own party?

Obama will be OK but, by the time he realizes how screwed-up everything is at the top-secret levels, it will be too late for him to react so he'll spend his term peeing on fires.

Ron Paul would accomplish very little of what he's campaigning for, but I'm confident he can soften the inevitable landing.

You really should all vote for Ron Paul.

You should. Trust me, I know.

Giblet: You should. Trust me, I know.

Well, you are a pseudonymous poster on an internet discussion board.

I'm convinced!

burndtdan: Last One Left: maddogdelta: Because Dubya is sure to tell congress to fast track Obama's an Hillary's legislation and sign it in the Rose Garden with his purple crayon on national TV!

So, because the President may not agree, they won't even try?

why wouldn't they wait until the inevitable democratic president that won't resist the changes?

Because it might get a lot of the debate and infighting out of the way. "You know that bill vetoed by Former President Bush? Well, I will sign it the same day Congress puts it on my desk."

It may suck, but that's sort of how it has to be. I wish we could do something like 'replacement senators' who would take over while people run for President. But oh well.

Skleenar: Giblet: You should. Trust me, I know.

Well, you are a pseudonymous poster on an internet discussion board.

I'm convinced!

Pseudonymous? That's my first name!

(Pseudonymous "T-Bone" Gibletendorfsky)

At least I wasn't outed by a Liter...

Jeeze subby, learn a little bit about how Congress works. The Senate cannot originate bills to change taxes or to spend Federal funds.

How are they going to be able to turn the market around without spending Federal funds or changing the taxes?

Apparently people are running out of even vaguely legitimate criticisms of Obama...

Didn't McCain say he had "a plan" for Iraq, but wouldn't share it until he was elected?

Google-fu is weak in this one this morning...

Ryan2065: Jeeze subby, learn a little bit about how Congress works. The Senate cannot originate bills to change taxes or to spend Federal funds.

How are they going to be able to turn the market around without spending Federal funds or changing the taxes?

Aw come on... if subby spent time learning how the government actually works, that'd take time away from scaring all those pesky Billy Goats Gruff that keep tramping over his bridge.

/Gotta scare 'em over there so we don't have to scare 'em over here.

I loved the reporting from Olbermann on McCain's plan for the economy, he said it amounted to "Good Luck"

They're a little too busy campaigning, same as McCain. I don't like it either, but that's the way it is in America. Every politician spends a chunk of each term on the campaign trail.

Don't hate the players here, hate the game.

No one manages the economy.

/DRTFA

fortunately McCain's absences from the senate are completely irrelevant since he's already committed to doing absolutely nothing. He can't warn America strongly enough about the dangers of doing something different.

Last One Left: So, because the President may not agree, they won't even try?

What the hell is stopping George Bush from getting his ass in gear and taking this problem on?

Oh, right, he's an incredible failure.

Last One Left: maddogdelta: Because Dubya is sure to tell congress to fast track Obama's an Hillary's legislation and sign it in the Rose Garden with his purple crayon on national TV!

So, because the President may not agree, they won't even try?

Well, first off, they're campaigning. Like it or not, they NEED to do that to win the presidency. Besides, they're just 2 people in a crowd of hundreds in the Senate.

Second, even if they come up with something they like, Bush would veto it... so yes, why bother trying when you know it won't get pushed through? Why not wait 10 months from now when one of them takes office and then possibly get some things done.

Last night NPR drive-home compared the three candidates' positions on fixing the economy:

Clinton: More regulation, free lunch
Obama: More regulation, free cake
McCain: "Shanna, they bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em crash."

Last One Left: Yes, but help is needed now, no? Besides, what would it hurt to try? Isn't that what they get paid to do?

Sure, but why is everybody standing around waiting for Obama, Clinton or McCain to do something? Are the 423 members of Congress, 97 other Senators, the Vice President and the President THAT farking useless?

Don't answer that.

Smoke & Mirrors.

Can you say "No New Taxes"?

I wonder how Obama would pull this off while wanting to send $325B to aid poorer countries.

/Charity begins at home.
//Don't like any of 'em
///You should have voted for RON PAUL
////We're screwed. Here comes another Great Depression

It's an election year. The economy is always seems to be on the verge of collapsing whenever this happens.

atomsmoosher: Last night NPR drive-home compared the three candidates' positions on fixing the economy:

Clinton: More regulation, free lunch
Obama: More regulation, free cake
McCain: "Shanna, they bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em crash."

free cake aside, its undeniable that a LACK of regulation is what got us into this mess

atomsmoosher: Last night NPR drive-home compared the three candidates' positions on fixing the economy:

Clinton: More regulation, free lunch
Obama: More regulation, free cake
McCain: "Shanna, they bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em crash."

Wow, that is some deep thinking. No wonder I stopped listening to them.

Ryan2065: Jeeze subby, learn a little bit about how Congress works. The Senate cannot originate bills to change taxes or to spend Federal funds.

How are they going to be able to turn the market around without spending Federal funds or changing the taxes?

Well you do have Obama and his lending regulations that he could start. Hillary's ideas not so much.

Why does Obama hate america, the lazy bastard.

MFL: It's an election year. The economy is always seems to be on the verge of collapsing whenever this happens.

The economy has never been in this bad of shape in our lifetimes.

Lando Lincoln:
Sure, but why is everybody standing around waiting for Obama, Clinton or McCain to do something? Are the 423 members of Congress, 97 other Senators, the Vice President and the President THAT farking useless?

Don't answer that.

The question is, what could they do? Obama and Clinton basically say bail the borrowers out and more regulation of lending practices for the future, neither of which fix the problems at hand.

McCain says screw 'em. I'm not voting McCain, but I can agree with the sentiment in this case. At most, I'd be for clearer description of the risks -- mandate plain English -- but subprime loans have their place in the real world.

Neither Clinton nor Obama have said anything that would really stop the current problems in the economy, they would just make it more difficult to do business in the future.

MFL: It's an election year. The economy is always seems to be on the verge of collapsing whenever this happens.

Are you trying to imply that the economic difficulties right now are imagined? Dubya, is that you?

ALL BILLS FOR RAISING REVENUE SHALL ORIGINATE IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Are McCain, Clinton, or Obama in the House of Representatives?

moralpanic:
Well, first off, they're campaigning. Like it or not, they NEED to do that to win the presidency. Besides, they're just 2 people in a crowd of hundreds in the Senate.

Could someone post a facepalm pic for me?

/thxby

boomaze: MFL: It's an election year. The economy is always seems to be on the verge of collapsing whenever this happens.

The economy has never been in this bad of shape in our lifetimes.

I just got laid off, so.. yeah, I don't really think this is strictly an election cycle thing.

submitter wants them to do their jobs instead of campaigning?!?!?

Because a candidate for President is so much better off spending their time with their legislative staffs working on the arcaneries of specific legislation.

Welcome to America, subby - here is your flag and personal copy of the Declaration of Independence. Please try to avoid sounding like such an idiot in the future.

The Bestest:

free cake aside, its undeniable that a LACK of regulation is what got us into this mess

It was people ripping off rubes...and greedy rubes...what got us into this mess. They can reform predatory lending practices...I'm all for it...but that won't stop the slide.

boomaze: The economy has never been in this bad of shape in our lifetimes.

Worse then the 1970s? Pssshaw!

Then why aren't our movies better?

Shrugging Atlas: Don't hate the players here, hate the game.

But I have a whole lot of hate!

atomsmoosher: The Bestest:

free cake aside, its undeniable that a LACK of regulation is what got us into this mess

It was people ripping off rubes...and greedy rubes...what got us into this mess. They can reform predatory lending practices...I'm all for it...but that won't stop the slide.


No, but we need regulation so it won't happen again. All the brilliant "Unregulate and it will be rainbows and puppy dogs: idiots have been proven wrong at everybody's exspense.

Bloody William:
I just got laid off, so.. yeah, I don't really think this is strictly an election cycle thing.


I just got a raise...so the economy must be awesome right now.

Subby: You mean the legislation that if they crafted now you would say "why are democrats passing legislation that they know will get vetoed and wasting ever ones time"

That legislation?

atomsmoosher: boomaze: The economy has never been in this bad of shape in our lifetimes.

Worse then the 1970s? Pssshaw!

Then why aren't our movies better?

Far worse. The fed is doing things now that they haven't ever done or haven't done since the 30's. WAY worse than the 70s.

boomaze: No, but we need regulation so it won't happen again. All the brilliant "Unregulate and it will be rainbows and puppy dogs: idiots have been proven wrong at everybody's exspense.

But it worked so well with the S&L's in the 80's too.