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(The Smoking Gun) Interesting Bombshell L.A. Times story on 1994 ambush of Tupac Shakur was based on forged FBI reports. The Smoking Gun is there   (thesmokinggun.com) divider line 155
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albo [TotalFark] 2008-03-26 10:53:33 AM  
hah! now let the conspiracy theories roll.

you know, if someone just "snitched," both deaths would be solved in the tiem it takes me to turn the radio away from a rap song

 
IcedPee 2008-03-26 10:54:16 AM  
Speaking of Tupac, when is his next record coming out?

/ he and princess di have lunch every week, I hear

 
Ninja Wicked 2008-03-26 10:54:46 AM  
I get it! Smoking gun HAHAHA

 
Rann Xerox 2008-03-26 10:56:17 AM  
Tupac, spelled backwards, is "Kaput".

I made the mistake of saying that to a fan of Tupac. He didn't appreciate the humor.

 
Jonathan Hohensee 2008-03-26 10:57:10 AM  
He couldn't of killed Tupac, P. Diddy was too busy planning to kill The Notorious B.I.G. so he could spend the next 20 years eulogizing him.

 
skater 2008-03-26 10:57:26 AM  
I wonder if Dan Rather would call the original story "Fake but accurate"?

 
aar0on 2008-03-26 10:58:14 AM  
Q: What do you call 1 dead rapper?
A: A good start.


/cranks up some Guess Who and listens to real music...

 
OldManDownDRoad 2008-03-26 10:59:45 AM  
Wow, and this can even get a Florida tag as well.

 
truth_is_stranger_than_fishin [TotalFark] 2008-03-26 11:00:36 AM  
Hurry, somebody tell Biggie
/nevermind

 
mailroomjack [TotalFark] 2008-03-26 11:01:20 AM  
aar0on: Q: What do you call 1 dead rapper?
A: A good start.


/cranks up some Guess Who and listens to real music...

Who?

 
Wild EEP 2008-03-26 11:01:25 AM  
Who cares?

 
DrForrester 2008-03-26 11:02:12 AM  
Who cares? The important thing is one less rapper.

 
calbert [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-03-26 11:02:46 AM  
The conspiracy is more interesting than the participants

 
erupt2001 2008-03-26 11:02:59 AM  
aar0on: Q: What do you call 1 dead rapper?
A: A good start.


/cranks up some Guess Who and listens to real music...


Actually, Tupac made some pretty damn good music. He had an incredible work ethic and his songs had meaning and emotion behind them. He had an extremely bright future as a musician, as well as an actor and it's a shame that he sold his soul to Suge Knight which lead to his death.

 
tequila party [TotalFark] 2008-03-26 11:03:39 AM  
2pac lives.

 
The_Sponge [TotalFark] 2008-03-26 11:04:18 AM  
i22.photobucket.com

 
OtitisMEDIA 2008-03-26 11:04:20 AM  
IcedPee: Speaking of Tupac, when is his next record coming out?

/ he and princess di have lunch every week, I hear


with JFK Jr. and Heath Ledger

 
dj_bigbird [TotalFark] 2008-03-26 11:04:50 AM  
wildly impulsive, overweight white kid from Florida whose own father once described him in a letter to a federal judge as "a disturbed young man who needed attention like a drug."

What this dude's fark handle?

 
some swedish girl 2008-03-26 11:05:42 AM  
Rann Xerox: Tupac, spelled backwards, is "Kaput".

C backwards is K?

 
nick_papagiorgio [TotalFark] 2008-03-26 11:06:37 AM  
aar0on: Q: What do you call 1 dead rapper?
A: A good start.


/cranks up some Guess Who and listens to real music...


2/10

 
JPhilB 2008-03-26 11:07:04 AM  
Disco died.
Grunge passed.
Punk, not so much.
Hair metal. RIP

When is rap going to kick the bucket?

/not soon enough

 
HotWingConspiracy [TotalFark] 2008-03-26 11:08:45 AM  
Getting killed was the best thing for his career. His brand of rap was on the way out at that point.

He was also a complete piece of shiat, and those types tend to get themselves killed.

 
The_Sponge [TotalFark] 2008-03-26 11:09:44 AM  
Rap was better in the 80's.

/Now get off my lawn.

 
redoctober65 [TotalFark] 2008-03-26 11:09:46 AM  
some swedish girl: Rann Xerox: Tupac, spelled backwards, is "Kaput".

C backwards is K?


C is the new K

*goes for another bowl of Special C *

 
railbait 2008-03-26 11:13:50 AM  
img221.imageshack.us

 
desolationrow 2008-03-26 11:15:54 AM  
Tupac's music was way different than most of the generic rap out there. He had strong moral and social awareness, and reflected that in his music. He had alot more to say than alot of the popular music I hear today.

 
hugheric 2008-03-26 11:15:57 AM  
I think biggie said it best "to the honeys making moneys treatin n@$#as like dummies"

 
Zombie Eater 2008-03-26 11:15:58 AM  
We clearly aren't issuing enough rapper hunting licenses. When's the season start, or are we up to year-round now? There's so many "young"s and "lil"s these days, I'm sure that the herd needs some thinning.

 
Slackness 2008-03-26 11:16:50 AM  
LOlz RAP = (R)idiculous.(A)dolescent.(P)oop wiv secret hand signs... like wot the spac'tards do in the spechul classes. Mongtastic!!

 
illinidrew 2008-03-26 11:17:34 AM  
Jonathan Hohensee: He couldn't of killed Tupac, P. Diddy was too busy planning to kill The Notorious B.I.G. so he could spend the next 20 years eulogizing eugoogolizing him.

FTFY
//rotsky, now with chiseled abs and stunning features

 
The_Sponge [TotalFark] 2008-03-26 11:18:24 AM  
Rann Xerox: Tupac, spelled backwards, is "Kaput".

I made the mistake of saying that to a fan of Tupac. He didn't appreciate the humor.



I was in high school when Tupac was shot, and the day after, one of the punk rock kids at school was wearing a homemade t-shirt. It said "I shot Tupac.", and had fake bloody bullet holes all over the front. Later that day, I noticed that there was a big rip on one side, and he was sporting a black eye.

Apparently, this other guy I knew took offense, and decided to take matters into his own hands. He was one of those guys you didn't want to fark with....Napoleon complex all the way....and could hold his own in a fight.

As far as the kid with the t-shirt goes, he's damn lucky our school was in a yuppie suburb of Seattle....if he tried that shiat at Rainier Beach High School, things would have been much worse.

 
DROxINxTHExWIND [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-03-26 11:18:25 AM  
Delusional white boy seeks attention by trying to insert himself into hip-hop culture. Sounds familiar.

The only shock to me is that the forgeries didn't come directlyfrom the CIA.

 
FilmBELOH20 [TotalFark] 2008-03-26 11:19:36 AM  
erupt2001: aar0on: Q: What do you call 1 dead rapper?
A: A good start.


/cranks up some Guess Who and listens to real music...

Actually, Tupac made some pretty damn good music. He had an incredible work ethic and his songs had meaning and emotion behind them. He had an extremely bright future as a musician poet, as well as an actor and it's a shame that he sold his soul to Suge Knight which lead to his death.


I'll agree that his raps were catchy, and that he was very talented at what he did behind a mic and in front of a camera. But please, for the love of God, can we stop calling rappers musicians? I highly doubt that Tupac, Biggy or even Puffy could read one measure of music, and taking a music theory class would make his head aspload.

 
Slackness 2008-03-26 11:19:42 AM  
illinidrew: Jonathan Hohensee: He couldn't of killed Tupac, P. Diddy was too busy planning to kill The Notorious B.I.G. so he could spend the next 20 years eulogizing eugoogolizing him.

FTFY
//rotsky, now with chiseled abs and stunning features


YOU BASTARD FANTASTIC FELLOW...

 
okami36 2008-03-26 11:21:19 AM  
aar0on: Q: What do you call 1 dead rapper?
A: A good start.


/cranks up some Guess Who and listens to real music...


Dear God, THIS!

 
The_Sponge [TotalFark] 2008-03-26 11:21:49 AM  
desolationrow: He had strong moral and social awareness,


Yeesh.

Look...the guy was an entertainer....nothing more, nothing less.

Since when did having "awareness" actually mean something? Ooooh....look at me, I'm "aware". How about actually doing something for once?

/Still can't believe UC Berkeley offered a class on the "poetry of Tupac".

 
RobbieS 2008-03-26 11:25:27 AM  
www.hbo.com
"It's all in my notes, Gus!"

 
The_Sponge [TotalFark] 2008-03-26 11:26:22 AM  
aar0on: /cranks up some Guess The Who and listens to real music...


FTFY

 
erupt2001 2008-03-26 11:31:26 AM  
FilmBELOH20: erupt2001: aar0on: Q: What do you call 1 dead rapper?
A: A good start.


/cranks up some Guess Who and listens to real music...

Actually, Tupac made some pretty damn good music. He had an incredible work ethic and his songs had meaning and emotion behind them. He had an extremely bright future as a musician poet, as well as an actor and it's a shame that he sold his soul to Suge Knight which lead to his death.

I'll agree that his raps were catchy, and that he was very talented at what he did behind a mic and in front of a camera. But please, for the love of God, can we stop calling rappers musicians? I highly doubt that Tupac, Biggy or even Puffy could read one measure of music, and taking a music theory class would make his head aspload.


Ok, so we'll call him a poet. Relax and take a breath before your bunched panties cut off your air supply.

 
DROxINxTHExWIND [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-03-26 11:31:41 AM  
The_Sponge: desolationrow: He had strong moral and social awareness,


Yeesh.

Look...the guy was an entertainer....nothing more, nothing less.

Since when did having "awareness" actually mean something? Ooooh....look at me, I'm "aware". How about actually doing something for once?

=================================================

Raising the social awareness of a couple generations of young people is an accomplishment. You can not simultaneously blame "negative" hip-hop for all that ails the urban community and then claim that it has absolutely no effect when it is positive.

Either the music is powerful enough to create change or it is not.

 
Rann Xerox 2008-03-26 11:31:54 AM  
some swedish girl: Rann Xerox: Tupac, spelled backwards, is "Kaput".

C backwards is K?


You know what I mean. :-)

 
Sybarite [TotalFark] 2008-03-26 11:32:18 AM  
JPhilB: Disco died.
Grunge passed.
Punk, not so much.
Hair metal. RIP

When is rap going to kick the bucket?

/not soon enough



Those were all just variations on the rock/pop genre that had their time and will have their revivals. The core genre never went anywhere. Rap (or more broadly hip-hop) is going to be the same way. If you look at worldwide album sales for the last few years they are pretty evenly divided between rock, pop and hip-hop. I doubt that will change any time soon.

 
Artmageddon 2008-03-26 11:33:08 AM  
erupt2001: Actually, Tupac made some pretty damn good music. He had an incredible work ethic and his songs had meaning and emotion behind them. He had an extremely bright future as a musician, as well as an actor and it's a shame that he sold his soul to Suge Knight which lead to his death.

Thank you. "Screw you" to everyone saying, "Durr one less rapper yayyy" and "hurr hurr can't spell crap without rap". There have been a LOT of talented rap and hip-hop artists who don't get the air play they deserve because of labels and radio stations falling back on the same old formula of gangster style music, doing whatever they could to sell records. There are plenty of great artists out there that aren't just rapping about hoes and rims; but you're not bothering to look for them. The same could be said about rock, so you can go back to listening to Nickelback and Creed; or whatever drivel you get from American Idol.

The_Sponge: Since when did having "awareness" actually mean something? Ooooh....look at me, I'm "aware". How about actually doing something for once?

You've never heard of the concept of using music as spreading a message?

 
Artmageddon 2008-03-26 11:37:45 AM  
FilmBELOH20: I'll agree that his raps were catchy, and that he was very talented at what he did behind a mic and in front of a camera. But please, for the love of God, can we stop calling rappers musicians? I highly doubt that Tupac, Biggy or even Puffy could read one measure of music, and taking a music theory class would make his head aspload.

I'm not sure I would call all of them "musicians", seeing as most rappers themselves don't play instruments; I think the term "lyricists" might fit better. They'd write catchy hooks and have DJs lay down good beats for them(i.e. Dr. Dre). However, The Roots are a notable exception. ?uest Love is a good drummer, and the group really makes some good songs.

 
Jerry Garcia 2008-03-26 11:40:05 AM  
RobbieS: "It's all in my notes, Gus!"

RIP Wire. You lived longer than I expected.

 
some swedish girl 2008-03-26 11:40:54 AM  
Rann Xerox: You know what I mean. :-)

I just felt like being difficult :P

 
xenocide 2008-03-26 11:46:15 AM  
FilmBELOH20: 'll agree that his raps were catchy, and that he was very talented at what he did behind a mic and in front of a camera. But please, for the love of God, can we stop calling rappers musicians? I highly doubt that Tupac, Biggy or even Puffy could read one measure of music, and taking a music theory class would make his head aspload.

You realize that Tupac went to the Baltimore School for the Arts and was classically trained right? He studied Jazz and performed Shakespeare. Before you make assumptions about the man you may want to read up on him first.

 
desolationrow 2008-03-26 11:46:36 AM  
The_Sponge
Since when did having "awareness" actually mean something? Ooooh....look at me, I'm "aware". How about actually doing something for once?
Yeah, really. I read alot of crap the media vomits up about 'spreading awareness' of things like AIDS, domestic abuse and other nonsense. Awareness is pretty overrated. Just like Tupac talking about poverty, drug addiction, abuse and youth violence.

/Still can't believe UC Berkeley offered a class on the "poetry of Tupac".
And yet, there it is.

 
drewsky52 2008-03-26 11:50:12 AM  
He added that Sabatino also tried to get near the Wu-Tang Clan, "but I heard they beat him up."


/ain't nothin' to fark with

 
xenocide 2008-03-26 11:50:57 AM  
DROxINxTHExWIND: Either the music is powerful enough to create change or it is not.

Amazing how "hip hop culture" can somehow both be the cause of all the problems with black folks and at the same time be nothing more than a noisy waste of time. It seems to be the perfect scapegoat.

 
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