She'll miss her chance to vote for Hillary.

She tried blowing up a couple of cop cars. It's not exactly a breaking news flash that the police in this country can act like vindictive dicks when given the opportunity.

She should be serving life or at least a far greater amount of time.

But...

If the State lets you out, if they screw the pooch like this, making you go back in simply isn't right.

I'm not talking where they get confused and release a rapist after a few days, thinking he just finished a different misdemeanor sentence.

Then again, as injustices go, I won't loose any sleep over her.

What? They calculate the parole date when the inmate arrives in prison and don't review it unless ordered by a court? That's pure BS because they recalculate it continuously based on good/bad behavior, prison industry work, and many other factors. Olson needs to find a new job.

ImJustaTroll: TehNacho: SnakeLee: She tried blowing up a couple of cop cars.

And this article will soon be filled with lighters asking where the hero tag is.

You mean asking where the gasoline is.

//oh, you meant liters. right.


It's only a year, and unless it was a huge percentage of the actual time served, I say give it to her.

Because you know, trying to rebuild your life is hard enough after prison without them throwing you in for another year.

Uh ... you might want to read up on the SLA before you decide to just let her go.

She did 6 freaking years. She needs a better lawyer and the pundits need to leave people who have served their time alone. This is just as bad as double jeopardy.

Symbionese Liberation Army? I thought we were the Liberation Army of Symbionese.

/or was it the Symbionese Army of Liberation?
//release Brian

SnakeLee: She tried blowing up a couple of cop cars. It's not exactly a breaking news flash that the police in this country can act like vindictive dicks when given the opportunity.

She also was part of a bank tellers murder if not the trigger person and kicked a pregnant woman causing a miscarriage.
She got off way too easy when you consider someone selling a bag of pot gets 20 years

Trik: SnakeLee: She tried blowing up a couple of cop cars. It's not exactly a breaking news flash that the police in this country can act like vindictive dicks when given the opportunity.

She also was part of a bank tellers murder if not the trigger person and kicked a pregnant woman causing a miscarriage.
She got off way too easy when you consider someone selling a bag of pot gets 20 years

I agree with you, but bad example. Everyone knows the drug laws are retarded... they shouldn't be used for validation of other sentences.

deadapostle: She did 6 freaking years. She needs a better lawyer and the pundits need to leave people who have served their time alone. This is just as bad as double jeopardy.

No, they messed up, She never deserved to be released... she should be glad she got a few days off. I assume you have no idea what she did to get thrown in jail in the first place. She deserves to stay in prison for a long time...

Though I believe her lawyer has a point in that she is officially on parole and can not be sent back without violating it, I dont feel bad for her.

It's one more year that she wont be in my state.

Her biggest error was not taking off right away. More time? Thank you, no.

Trik: She also was part of a bank tellers murder if not the trigger person and kicked a pregnant woman causing a miscarriage.

Then she'd definitaly vote for Hillary.

First of all, for what she did, her sentence is DISGUSTINGLY light. I simply cannot believe a responsible judge would have given her that weak sentence, considering both her crime, AND that she lived for decades as a fugitive. No one who had recently committed such a crime would have gotten that sentence; it was a reward for flouting the law. Judge is an idiot.

Having said all that: I don't know what the result is if you are "erroneously" granted parole. Just hazarding a guess here, it sounds like she would have a plausible claim, under either the ex post facto clause, or state law, that once her sentence was modified to parole- even if it was modified based on an error- if the decision to grant parole was final, then it cannot be yanked from her unless she violates the terms of her parole. She may have valid grounds to challenge this in court.

1. Lawyer's right, the state paroled her. Doesn't matter if she was serving eleventy-billion years and paroled after four. They don't get a second shot at you unless you screw up again.

2. As soon as she stepped out of the jailhouse, someone should've snatched her off the street and beat her to death with a sack of hammers.

This was the chick that lived in MN as your average soccer mom for 20+ years before they caught up to her. Her sentence was light to start with. 2 years for murdering a bank teller? Why? Because everyone had forgotten about it and the teller was dead so who cares? Let her rot in jail. Free the pot smokers instead.

The SLA started in 1973 when no more than a dozen white, college-educated children from middle-class families adopted a seven-headed snake as their symbol and an ex-convict as their leader. Their slogan: "Death to the fascist insect that preys upon the life of the people."

Well, I guess that proves that kids today just don't have what it takes to be politically active.

AlphaNumericus: Trik: She also was part of a bank tellers murder if not the trigger person and kicked a pregnant woman causing a miscarriage.

Then she'd definitaly vote for Hillary.

You suck at trolling. And English.

deadapostle: She did 6 freaking years. She needs a better lawyer and the pundits need to leave people who have served their time alone. This is just as bad as double jeopardy.

6 years total for 2nd degree murder and bombings. I'd say her lawyer is top notch.

The truly sad thing about it all is that another teacher will be cut from the educational ranks to keep this woman in prison for another year.

Sad when we keep our prisons fun of people who more than likely will never commit another crime, but continue to keep cutting the ranks of the educators.

What is wrong with this picture???

BullDogg34F:
No, they messed up, She never deserved to be released... she should be glad she got a few days off. I assume you have no idea what she did to get thrown in jail in the first place. She deserves to stay in prison for a long time...

Just because they "messed up" doesn't mean that she should go back to prison. I know what the SLA did, but what court of law put her in prison the second time? She was tried, imprisoned, served 6 years, and released early. My stance isn't about her crimes, but about the fact that she paid for them and is only further punished because of how famous her crimes were. There are far worse people who are given early parole.

She should have got this....

TeeJay: The truly sad thing about it all is that another teacher will be cut from the educational ranks to keep this woman in prison for another year.

Sad when we keep our prisons fun of people who more than likely will never commit another crime, but continue to keep cutting the ranks of the educators.

What is wrong with this picture???

I know that you meant for this argument to favor lighter sentences, but it's equally applicable to expanding the death penalty.

The crime is irrelevant. The state farked up, badly, I'd call it cruel and unusual to let someone out then put them back in just because of an error.

I am aware of the crimes btw, and you may think longer was appropriate, but there is legal process for many good reasons, and if you're released on parole, you stay free unless you commit another offence.

mama's_tasty_foods: I simply cannot believe a responsible judge would have given her that weak sentence, considering both her crime, AND that she lived for decades as a fugitive.

I think that the reason she was given such a light sentence is that she lived for decades without causing any harm to the country.

Nobody in this country, including judges and lawyers, can quite agree on what the function of prisons and the prison system is or should be.

Some believe it should purely be punitive. Some believe it should serve as a warning to others.
Some believe it should be used to keep dangerous people out of the community.

Some believe a combination of two or more with varying weight being given to any of the reasons.

If you have a judge who believes that the primary function of prison is to keep dangerous people out of the community, with a smidgen of serving as a warning to others, then a sentence of six years is completely predictable.

After living for decades as a housewife, she had proven she was no longer a danger to the community. So, there would be no reason for a judge holding that view to sentence her to decades or life in prison.

.02

FTFA: included 12 years for the attempted bombings and two years for the bank slaying...

You tried to bomb something! 12 years, biatch!

You successfully murdered a human being! Meh, two years'll learn you.


I. HEART. AMERICA.

They'd save a lot of time and money by 'accidentally' running her over with a bus.

SnakeLee: She tried blowing up a couple of cop cars. It's not exactly a breaking news flash that the police in this country can act like vindictive dicks when given the opportunity.


SnakeLee, you are s stupid stupid ASS! I would ask if you even know what this story is about but you clearly didn't

Thankfully, From_The_Year_2000 has tried to pull you out of the pit of ignorance.

From_The_Year_2000
She also was part of a bank tellers murder if not the trigger person and kicked a pregnant woman causing a miscarriage.
She got off way too easy when you consider someone selling a bag of pot gets 20 years

In addition, the SLA was a terrorist organization who had cops not only fighting to protect their own lives and the lives of their citizens, but were forced to waste valuable time and resources from these assholes calling in fake bomb threats and other terrorist acts. So SnakeLee before you run around assuming that this was just another case of police in this country acting like " vindictive dicks " you'd better at least know the details of the story. In this case, you look, no ARE a real dumbass.

Oh and to this:

AlphaNumericus 2008-03-23 11:27:06 AM
She'll miss her chance to vote for Hillary.

Convicted felons generally cannot vote. Some can appeal over time but not likely a murderer, especially a cop killer and certainly not someone who had just gotten out.

deadapostle: My stance isn't about her crimes, but about the fact that she paid for them and is only further punished because of how famous her crimes were. There are far worse people who are given early parole.

Uhmmm she DIDN'T pay for them... that's why she is back in prison.... she has to finish paying for them.

TehNacho: The hate in this thread for my comment has not yet reached epic. I am apparently an elitist, and ignorant though. I am watching the thread though.

It's ig'nant. You know better than that.

TehNacho: SnakeLee: She tried blowing up a couple of cop cars.

And this article will soon be filled with lighters asking where the hero tag is.

Spring is spring.
The grass is riz.
I wonder where the Hero tag is.

/Burma Shave

By the arguments here, every person who was ever accidentally released due to a clerical error should be allowed to go free. Rapists, murderers, child molesters. There was a screw up. She didn't serve the proper sentence so she got tossed back in. If she hadn't run off and changed her identity, she would have been paroled years ago. Screw her. Hope she gets shanked in there.

srtpointman: By the arguments here, every person who was ever accidentally released due to a clerical error should be allowed to go free. Rapists, murderers, child molesters. There was a screw up. She didn't serve the proper sentence so she got tossed back in. If she hadn't run off and changed her identity, she would have been paroled years ago. Screw her. Hope she gets shanked in there.

THIS

BullDogg34F: srtpointman: By the arguments here, every person who was ever accidentally released due to a clerical error should be allowed to go free. Rapists, murderers, child molesters. There was a screw up. She didn't serve the proper sentence so she got tossed back in. If she hadn't run off and changed her identity, she would have been paroled years ago. Screw her. Hope she gets shanked in there.

THIS

NOT THIS

If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

deadapostle, stop being a douchebag. Six years for what she did isn't justice--it's a weekend getaway. Her statements show that she isn't even really repantatnt for her previoius actions, and she's one hell of a finger-pointer too.

/in a fairer world, after she tried to change her plea for the XX time the judge would've given her life.

//Her original sentance, which was scrapped, was 14 years, so she's still getting off easy.

libbynomore2: In addition, the SLA was a terrorist organization who had cops not only fighting to protect their own lives and the lives of their citizens...

I'm not a citizen of any cop.

By the arguments here, every person who was ever accidentally released due to a clerical error should be allowed to go free. Rapists, murderers, child molesters. There was a screw up. She didn't serve the proper sentence so she got tossed back in. If she hadn't run off and changed her identity, she would have been paroled years ago. Screw her. Hope she gets shanked in there.

Not all "clerical errors" are the same. If the jail/prison erroneously releases you because they transposed your release date with someone else's- you should go back to jail.

But when you have been -granted parole- after a hearing, the state has used a statutory procedure to change your legal relationship to the prison system. Sure, they made a mistake in the runup to deciding whether she got parole. But, having missed that error, and never double-checked it adequately, they proceeded to have a parole hearing, have a vote, and award her parole, granting her a new legal status that cannot be revoked unless she breaks the terms of her parole.

So it would be up to California law, and perhaps the ex post facto clause, whether they are entitled to do this. There are strong arguments that they cannot revoke her after granting her parole. As a caveat though- if something in the parole statutes, or the terms of her parole, stipulates that if her parole was granted based on an error like this one, they are entitled to revoke-- in that case, the prison system has a much stronger position to argue that they can take her back. Otherwise I think she has a very strong argument.

libbynomore2: Convicted felons generally cannot vote.

No, that depends on the state. Many states allow felons to vote the moments they're out of jail, and 2 allow them to vote while in jail. http://www.felonvotingprocon.org/pop/StateLaws.htm

Hillary needs every felon vote she can get.

The only reason this is getting in the news is because of who she is and what she did. I bet that things like this happen at lest 2 to 3 times a year and nothing is done. if no one had made a fuss bout this she be out still. not saying i agree with her being let out. Just saying that if no one had said anything bout her being let out then she still be out.

SchlingFo: After living for decades as a housewife, she had proven she was no longer a danger to the community. So, there would be no reason for a judge holding that view to sentence her to decades or life in prison.

I fully support a purely symbolic justification for imprisoning someone. To me it's largely irrelevant whether this biatch is, or is not, actually going to physically threaten anyone if she's allowed to leave jail early, or is given lighter sentence. We need to send a statement telling people that they may not commit violent felonious acts against innocent people without paying a price for it.

She's the ultimate example of a guilt-ridden upper-middle class 60s radical who committed extremely violent and dangerous acts as a protest against the middle class, and then ran as fast as she could to embrace those middle class values as a refuge.

/"Oh, I'm just a white middle-aged woman who bakes cookies. What danger could I possibly be to anyone?"
//This is actually a more racist attitude than that espoused by the KKK

They're going to dope test her, find whatever she's been smoking since she was "accidentally" released, and give her 10 more years.

I got no problem with those who are opposed to fascism.


However,I got a big problem with those who fight fascism by robbing banks and murdering innocent people.

Send her dumb ass back to prison where she belongs.

Twins?

Not to burst faker's righteous indignation or anything, but if you read up you find she claims she is innocent (to an extent - she acknowledges some responsibility but had her hands on no bomb, no trigger) of many of the crimes she plead guilty to but plead guilty anyway to plea bargain a lighter sentence and spare her family.

But continue with the pitchforks and torches...

SecretAgentWoman: Not to burst faker's righteous indignation or anything, but if you read up you find she claims she is innocent (to an extent - she acknowledges some responsibility but had her hands on no bomb, no trigger) of many of the crimes she plead guilty to but plead guilty anyway to plea bargain a lighter sentence and spare her family.

But continue with the pitchforks and torches...

This.

God, some Farkers are SO gullible. The get ALL their exercise from jumping to conclusions.

SecretAgentWoman: Not to burst faker's righteous indignation or anything, but if you read up you find she claims she is innocent (to an extent - she acknowledges some responsibility but had her hands on no bomb, no trigger) of many of the crimes she plead guilty to but plead guilty anyway to plea bargain a lighter sentence and spare her family.

But continue with the pitchforks and torches...

Oh- someone who is not only a convict but swore under oath in open court that she WAS guilty, now says she is innocent?

Well golly that changes everything: it MUST be true if she says she is innocent! Thanks for pointing this important fact out for the benefit of the ignorant masses.

there are many cases of people mistakenly paroled who are re-jailed after the mistake is discovered. duh.

however, she's a snobby hippie coont, and the 'felony-murder rule' clearly applies here. she should've been given mandatory life. duh.

however, she was a soccer mom. so... im conflicted...

SecretAgentWoman: Not to burst faker's righteous indignation or anything, but if you read up you find she claims she is innocent (to an extent - she acknowledges some responsibility but had her hands on no bomb, no trigger) of many of the crimes she plead guilty to but plead guilty anyway to plea bargain a lighter sentence and spare her family.

But continue with the pitchforks and torches...

Yeah, except that what she admits to is felony murder. She admits to planning and participating in a felony that resulted in a murder. ALL of the participants are then guilty of murder. The bagman or the driver always claims not to have know that anyone would get hurt. Know what we call those people? Murderers.