Yay!

it's long past time, but huzzah none the less.

yea, we shall see how far that goes.

Your dreams are unrealistic but beautiful.

I'm going to call it the Make Room for Serious Criminals bill."

Heh.

legalize and tax the shiat out of it.

I will twist one up right now, and I shall call him BARNEY.

Just before the 3rd week of April maybe?

I am incredibly stoned right now, so I'm getting a real kick out of....mmmmm, Doritos....

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Roll a fatty tag for Barney.

Too bad Barney is the one introducing it. It should probably be a congressman who's still able to speak from not having smoked so much weed in his life.

Barney was pretty ornery on Real Time last night, he must not have blazed up before.

"I'm going to call it the Make Room for Serious Criminals bill."

I love it just for the title.

Yeah - thanks, Barn. Good luck with that, there.

Barney Fife



Barney Spliff

This bud's for you, Burney!

/Puff, puff, pass mutherfarker!

The DEA will fight this bill tooth and claw. And everyone up on capital hill looking for a chance to look tough on crime will make sure this bill dies on committee.

Good on ya, Barn'

Not a smoker, and I'm all for the decrim of pot. The fact that people sit behind bars because of pot busts is digusting.

Those that think that means you will be able to smoke pot anywhere anytime you want legally are very mistaken, though.

You can't drink alcohol anywhere anytime you want. Not legally.

You can't drink on the job either, unless you have a really cool job.

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Little people don't like you to make fun of their height.

Only a fool would ever pay taxes on marijuana. It doesn't exactly require a green-thumb to grow and enough for personal consumption can be grown in very little space so why buy it?

PhiloeBedoe: Only a fool would ever pay taxes on marijuana. It doesn't exactly require a green-thumb to grow and enough for personal consumption can be grown in very little space so why buy it?

it's just easier. But that's besides the point - since it really IS easy to grow and process, it's virtually untaxable and impossible to regulate. No taxes, no regulation, no pot. The Fedgov wants their share of the take man. ya gotta pay to play in this country!

PhiloeBedoe: Only a fool would ever pay taxes on marijuana. It doesn't exactly require a green-thumb to grow and enough for personal consumption can be grown in very little space so why buy it?

For a daily user, it would be silly I suppose. For occasional users, though, being able to just stop by some place and pick a bit of bud would make sense. Also, such a shop would have multiple varities, ingestible doob (cookies, cakes, tea, etc) to fit whatever you fancied at the time.

If all a person wanted was alcohol, they could set up a cheap still to make it, but some days people want beer, some days wine, some days gin (so I'm told), some days vodak, etc...

PhiloeBedoe: Only a fool would ever pay taxes on marijuana. It doesn't exactly require a green-thumb to grow and enough for personal consumption can be grown in very little space so why buy it?

Because snobs exist in every vertical market.

Lionel Mandrake: PhiloeBedoe: Only a fool would ever pay taxes on marijuana. It doesn't exactly require a green-thumb to grow and enough for personal consumption can be grown in very little space so why buy it?

For a daily user, it would be silly I suppose. For occasional users, though, being able to just stop by some place and pick a bit of bud would make sense. Also, such a shop would have multiple varities, ingestible doob (cookies, cakes, tea, etc) to fit whatever you fancied at the time.

If all a person wanted was alcohol, they could set up a cheap still to make it, but some days people want beer, some days wine, some days gin (so I'm told), some days vodak, etc...

One problem is that potheads can't grow pot very competently. So, buying it commercially from someone who knows what they're doing is probably a better bet for guaranteed quality.

2wolves: Because snobs exist in every vertical market.

I guess that was the point I was making...in a nutshell.

/although my toker friends would prefer "connoisseur" over "snob."
//I still call them "snobs," but it doesn't phase them...pretty laid back group on the whole

ComicBookGuy: One problem is that potheads can't grow pot very competently. So, buying it commercially from someone who knows what they're doing is probably a better bet for guaranteed quality.

As a wannabe gardner (of legal florae) with a brown thumb...I totally agree

Lionel Mandrake: As a wannabe gardner (of legal florae) with a brown thumb...I totally agree

Well...the thing is, growing marijuana is NOT rocket science!! The two things you need most are good genetic material (seeds of quality plants)and the ability to properly sex plants before they can pollinate each other. The latter item seems particularly difficult for potheads (or so I've been told).

PhiloeBedoe: Only a fool would ever pay taxes on marijuana. It doesn't exactly require a green-thumb to grow and enough for personal consumption can be grown in very little space so why buy it?

It doesn't exactly require a chef to brew beer, either - and it takes surprisingly little space and time, outside of the initial boil. I highly doubt everyone on Fark is a home brewer, though.

^{/but that would be freakin' AWESOME}

You can brew your own beer and make your own wine but then taste comes into play. With pot it's simply (to me anyway) a question of potency.

Scoobie: legalize and tax the shiat out of it.

Tax the shiat out of it and watch the black market remain.

This isn't alcohol we're talking about. Hi-quality pot is ridiculously easy to grow. Brewing and distilling are way more complicated. The "tax the shiat out of it" attitude isn't the solution. The "tax is reasonably to offset the costs recreational use" makes more sense. The point of taxation, moral taxation that is, is not to punish. Society will have to bear the costs of addiction, accidents, etc, and it's not unreasonable to support taxation for this. It is unreasonable to punish sinners with a sin/vice tax.

I'm a drinker not a smoker, but, personally, I don't have a problem paying taxes on alcohol because alcohol costs the economy due to people using irresponsibly, etc. I oppose income taxation (citizens taxed for working, then taxed for spending), but alcohol taxation is pretty clear cut. Even though I drink responsibly, I'd gladly pay higher taxes on alcohol because it does do a lot of damage.

Annual health care expenditures for alcohol-related problems amount to $22.5 billion. The total cost of alcohol problems is $175.9 billion a year (compared to $114.2 billion for other drug problems and $137 billion for smoking)


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Is this the first time a bill like this has been introduced?

/Genuinely curious
//Would've assumed they've been submitted before but died quickly for the (stupid) reasons already mentioned above

God legalizing it is not going to make things better. I guess I can only speak for California, but they do not throw the masses in jail for a little bit of pot like everyone says. Dealers will still try to sell more quality stuff even if it is legal in small doses. Most the violent crime is not over pot its over the harder stuff. Legalizing it will not change ANYTHING, you will still get in trouble for lighting up and driving. I guess I do not see much problems with legalizing it, but then what will all the cop hater Farkers use as a scapegoat for blaming our over crowded jails?

This thread should be good, havnt had all the Pot head farkers on the thread in a little while. And remove is here this here (hay hows it going)!

Jack Torrence: I am incredibly stoned right now, so I'm getting a real kick out of....mmmmm, Doritos....

Dude... peanut butter stuffed pretzels, Sam's Club brand at the Wal*Mart. These shiats are delicious. I advise you try some. Also, good for the Rep. I wish that subby would have put his political affiliation in the headline (not that it particularly matters... I'm just too lazy to rtfa to find out what it is).

Everyone just needs to understand how dangerous drugs truly are. The past 40 years the liberals have been infiltrating the media with drug use - just look at "That 70's Show" for example! It's caused the illusion that drugs are harmless and fun. Utter bullshiat. Barney Frank is outspoken and out-of-touch. America needs some tightening up, not some drug laws that will promote a bunch of freak-fests.

CarolynLibrarian: PhiloeBedoe: Only a fool would ever pay taxes on marijuana. It doesn't exactly require a green-thumb to grow and enough for personal consumption can be grown in very little space so why buy it?

It doesn't exactly require a chef to brew beer, either - and it takes surprisingly little space and time, outside of the initial boil. I highly doubt everyone on Fark is a home brewer, though.

/but that would be freakin' AWESOME
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Man, home brewed beer is the worst. I've a bunch of friends who've tried it on multiple occasions. Once you can find the 6 out of the 24 bottles that don't have a crapload of sludge or foul smell or an intact seal then you get the pleasure of choking down something that tastes like mead so bad a Viking wouldn't drink it.

Me? I'll buy a good beer for sipping and a cheap beer for overindulging.

Will never happen, for the simple reason that pot is so easy to grow. The government makes a shiatload of money taxing alcohol and would never do anything to jepordize that income. In the US, you can't even distill spririts in your home.

shawn82: Will never happen, for the simple reason that pot is so easy to grow. The government makes a shiatload of money taxing alcohol and would never do anything to jepordize that income. In the US, you can't even distill spririts in your home.

This is mostly because of revenue, correct, but improper distillation can be unhealthy. There is at least an argument from that aspect. Growing marijuana doesn't really have this risk.

We've still gotta wait a little while till Congress is mostly full of younger baby boomers who've smoked a lot and older Gen-Xers like myself who initiated the meth wave, who really don't care if pot is legal or not.

Give it another ten years, then pot will be available at every 7-11 (not that it isn't already).

And to think I always thought he was just interested in smoking pole.

Follow the trail of money...

Until decriminalization is more profitable nothing is going to change. The "War on Drugs" is a failure for everyone except the people who's pockets it is lining. Reminds me of another war...

He announced it, but no one understood him through his horrible speech impediment.

Gyrfalcon: We've still gotta wait a little while till Congress is mostly full of younger baby boomers...

The youngest baby boomers turn 44 this year and the average age of Reps is 55 and 60 for Senators. I'd give full legalization a time frame of

I cannot tell if Disciplined is serious or not. I mean Ive read alot of studies, by itself pot is not that harmful. Personly the only thing I buy into is the Gateway thing (though even then... its only just a little). Ive never indulged in Pot, I know far to many REALLY burnt out potheads, but I guess I dont see to much harm in legalizing it.

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They make lead-free solder, you know.

PhiloeBedoe: You can brew your own beer and make your own wine but then taste comes into play. With pot it's simply (to me anyway) a question of potency.

I wish you were standing in front of me so I could pat you on the head.

I'm being a bit pedantic, but legalization and decriminalization are two different things. In NY it's not a crime to possess less than 25 grams of weed, it's a violation, there is a difference.

I like pretty much everything Barney stands for, but he has become a rude prick it seems. He talked over everyone on Real Time the entire show then when he was making a point and anyone even thought about trying to get a word in he starts repeating "can I finish, can I finish, can I finish, can I finish..."

I've seen him do this in other interviews as well. He's become a rude old queen over the years and it's a real detriment to his likability. I can barely put up with him anymore even though I support pretty much all of his ideas.

TheQuest35:

I am 100 % serious. Even if drugs were completely harmless (don't believe it), do we want to promote a culture of stupid, complacent, stoned idiots?

ajl_mo: Man, home brewed beer is the worst. I've a bunch of friends who've tried it on multiple occasions. Once you can find the 6 out of the 24 bottles that don't have a crapload of sludge or foul smell or an intact seal then you get the pleasure of choking down something that tastes like mead so bad a Viking wouldn't drink it.

All of my friends' homebrew sucks too, but mine doesn't. I don't use malt extract, a start by grinding grains. My brew days last a good 8-10 hours, I do 10 gallons at a time, and it gets kegged, not bottled. So please don't say homebrew sucks when the truth is most homebrew sucks.