FTA: The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a pile of noodles and meatballs, but it is meant to open up discussion and provoke thought.

Mocking other people's beliefs is a way to open up discussion and provoke thought? Idiot.

/Atheist

Ryan2065: FTA: The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a pile of noodles and meatballs, but it is meant to open up discussion and provoke thought.

Mocking other people's beliefs is a way to open up discussion and provoke thought? Idiot.

/Atheist

So you mock his beliefs.

Chuck Wagon: So you mock his beliefs.

The difference is I'm not trying to open up discussion and provoke thought. I'm just out to call him an idiot.

Ryan2065: Mocking other people's beliefs is a way to open up discussion and provoke thought? Idiot.

But it's cool to bash Scientology.

Ryan2065: FTA: The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a pile of noodles and meatballs, but it is meant to open up discussion and provoke thought.

Mocking other people's beliefs is a way to open up discussion and provoke thought? Idiot.

/Atheist

Yes, how dare they call that just a "pile of noodles and meatballs"!

Kyosuke: Ryan2065: FTA: The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a pile of noodles and meatballs, but it is meant to open up discussion and provoke thought.

Mocking other people's beliefs is a way to open up discussion and provoke thought? Idiot.

/Atheist

Yes, how dare they call that just a "pile of noodles and meatballs"!

I was calling the author an idiot for putting a FSM "display" on the lawn outside a courthouse and thinking it might open up discussion and provoke thought. All he is doing is mocking other people and their beliefs.

No, he is mocking people who believe in gods. And their beliefs.

eqtworld: Christiany is all about mocking other beliefs.

And if all the Christians went out and jumped off a bridge would you jump also?

eqtworld: Ryan2065: Mocking other people's beliefs is a way to open up discussion and provoke thought? Idiot.

Christiany is all about mocking other beliefs. The bible full of mockery and false attribution of the reasons other people worship:

"The god of this age (the devil) has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Jesus

(2 Cor 4:4)

/basically anyone who does not believe Jesus was a god has been tricked by satan

Luckily, a minority of Christians believe every word the bible says to its most literal degree. The literalists are just the loud ones.

Ryan2065: Kyosuke: Ryan2065: FTA: The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a pile of noodles and meatballs, but it is meant to open up discussion and provoke thought.

Mocking other people's beliefs is a way to open up discussion and provoke thought? Idiot.

/Atheist

Yes, how dare they call that just a "pile of noodles and meatballs"!

I was calling the author an idiot for putting a FSM "display" on the lawn outside a courthouse and thinking it might open up discussion and provoke thought. All he is doing is mocking other people and their beliefs.

The message of the FSM is to keep your beliefs out of science classes and government in general, it in no way denigrates personal beliefs.

kronicfeld: But it's cool to bash Scientology.

of course it is. fark scientology.

Those who worship this false religion will be damned to eternal hellfire!

Trotting out the FSM has been very useful when arguing against the prolife zealots in this state who believe it's OK to base their laws completely on the Christian Bible.
Pastafarianism may be a religion that was created recently by college students, but in the eyes of the law it's just as valid as Christianity.
That's a hard one for some fundies to wrap their heads around.

Ryan2065: FTA: The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a pile of noodles and meatballs, but it is meant to open up discussion and provoke thought.

Mocking other people's beliefs is a way to open up discussion and provoke thought? Idiot.

/Atheist

Meh, it's just a silly statue. If it were say, an Easter Bunny being crucified then you'd have a case for mocking.

Lighten up Francis.

El Dudereno: Pastafarianism may be a religion that was created recently by college students, but in the eyes of the law it's just as valid as Christianity.

No, no it isn't.

Ryan2065: El Dudereno: Pastafarianism may be a religion that was created recently by college students, but in the eyes of the law it's just as valid as Christianity.

No, no it isn't.

Really? If people started using it as a religion and actually worshiping the FSM, their faith would be protected like any other.

Ryan2065: eqtworld: Christiany is all about mocking other beliefs.

And if all the Christians went out and jumped off a bridge would you jump also?

For joy

The Spaghetti Monster's ability to fly can neither be proven nor disproven. It's simply a faith issue that our human minds cannot comprehend.

El Dudereno: Ryan2065: El Dudereno: Pastafarianism may be a religion that was created recently by college students, but in the eyes of the law it's just as valid as Christianity.

No, no it isn't.

Really? If people started using it as a religion and actually worshiping the FSM, their faith would be protected like any other.

I agree, but that isn't happening now. Christianity is a religion in the eyes of the law and Pastafarianism isn't. They aren't equal at all in the eyes of the law.

this is awesome. if they feel that it is ok for displays of one or two religions, they have to give equal opportunity for all beliefs. then maybe they'll realize it's better off just not allowing any of them

Ryan2065: No, no it isn't.

Fine, be pedantic. I'll fix it for you.

Pastafarianism Wicca may be a religion that was created recently by college studentswitches, but in the eyes of the law it's just as valid as Christianity.

chipspastic: Ryan2065: eqtworld: Christiany is all about mocking other beliefs.

And if all the Christians went out and jumped off a bridge would you jump also?

For joy

clever girl

Dead for Tax Reasons: this is awesome. if they feel that it is ok for displays of one or two religions, they have to give equal opportunity for all beliefs. then maybe they'll realize it's better off just not allowing any of them

They most certainly will when the Wiccans erect a giant phallus come Saturnalia.

equilibrium: Ryan2065: No, no it isn't.

Fine, be pedantic. I'll fix it for you.

Wicca may be a religion that was created recently by witches, but in the eyes of the law it's just as valid as Christianity.

I have no problem with this.

Ryan2065: No, no it isn't.

Well you are right in that I'm pretty sure there isn't anyone who actually worships the FSM. But who gets to make that determination for the government? Is there a "reasonableness" test for new religions? Should the same tests be used for older, more mainstream religions? Thats a pretty slippery slope to avoid.

SexOnTV: The Spaghetti Monster's ability to fly can neither be proven nor disproven. It's simply a faith issue that our human minds cannot comprehend.

Blasphemer! It can fly because its name says so. The FSM would not allow the faithful to be led astray. Ergo, it must be able to fly.

/besides, I saw it fly ... in this comic strip I drew.

Ryan2065: FTA: The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a pile of noodles and meatballs, but it is meant to open up discussion and provoke thought.

Mocking other people's beliefs is a way to open up discussion and provoke thought? Idiot.

/Atheist

What's wrong with mocking? It seems help keep creationism out of science classrooms.

At Your feet I bow

There is none like You

All that I have found

All I want is you



All the wonders You do

All that You are

What can I bring to You?

I offer my heart



Wonderful, magnificent FSM

I'm humbled by the life You gave

Beautiful Redeemer You are

Worthy of my highest praise

(repeat)



What can we give to You o FSM

For everything You have given to us?

(repeat 3x)



We offer our lives to You o FSM

For everything You have given to us

(repeat 3x)



Wonderful (magnificent FSM)

You are wonderful (magnificent FSM)

(repeat 2x)



Wonderful, magnificent FSM!

Ryan2065: Mocking other people's beliefs is a way to open up discussion and provoke thought? Idiot.

Don't forget the reason why the Flying Spaghetti Monster was created.

The fundamentalist Christians who were hostile against science led, and continue to lead, a battle to bring religion back into the classroom. The people it was created to mock were rightly mocked; you cannot have a debate with unreasonable people. You have to show reasonable people how ridiculous they are, get them elected out of office, and be vigilant for their shenanigans.

In that way, the FSM is created to mock those who use their lives to fight secularism. So, I say that using the FSM is a good choice in this case.

If you're going to tiptoe around, worrying about offending people like the woman the NRO thread is about a few threads down, you are never going to get anywhere.

Ryan2065: All he is doing is mocking other people and their beliefs.

Their beliefs are deserve of mocking.

gtraz: Ryan2065: No, no it isn't.

Well you are right in that I'm pretty sure there isn't anyone who actually worships the FSM. But who gets to make that determination for the government? Is there a "reasonableness" test for new religions? Should the same tests be used for older, more mainstream religions? Thats a pretty slippery slope to avoid.

don't the courts make that decision if, and when, the time comes? and doesn't precedent inform the judges' considered opinions?

Ryan2065: El Dudereno: Ryan2065: El Dudereno: Pastafarianism may be a religion that was created recently by college students, but in the eyes of the law it's just as valid as Christianity.

No, no it isn't.

Really? If people started using it as a religion and actually worshiping the FSM, their faith would be protected like any other.

I agree, but that isn't happening now. Christianity is a religion in the eyes of the law and Pastafarianism isn't. They aren't equal at all in the eyes of the law.

Doesn't the idea that the government gets to determine what is and is not a religion a violation of the 1st amendment?

Ramen.

Ryan2065: Mocking other people's beliefs is a way to open up discussion and provoke thought?

Yes--You have heard of satire, right?

Ryan2065: FTA: The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a pile of noodles and meatballs, but it is meant to open up discussion and provoke thought.t

I can summarize my discussion and thoughts in three words;

"What the phuque?"

The Homer Tax: Ryan2065: El Dudereno: Ryan2065: El Dudereno: Pastafarianism may be a religion that was created recently by college students, but in the eyes of the law it's just as valid as Christianity.

No, no it isn't.

Really? If people started using it as a religion and actually worshiping the FSM, their faith would be protected like any other.

I agree, but that isn't happening now. Christianity is a religion in the eyes of the law and Pastafarianism isn't. They aren't equal at all in the eyes of the law.

Doesn't the idea that the government gets to determine what is and is not a religion a violation of the 1st amendment establishment clause?

FTFY

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Praising FSM - The First Thing!
Do you know that praising FSM is the best thing to do first before anything else? Have you ever been in a situation that you feel all alone? Or have you encountered a difficult situation in your life and you don't know what to do, like losing your job or suffering the loss of someone very close to your heart? Consider the good times such as when you receive a raise from your boss or earn high marks at school? What do you usually do during these moments? Praising FSM makes every circumstance of our lives complete, essential, and eminently worthwhile.

Webster defines the word praise as to say good things about and it is synonymous to words such as admire, commend, extol, honor, and worship. A definition of Christian praise is the joyful thanking and adoring of FSM, the celebration of His goodness and grace.1 This simply implies that the act of praising is rightfully due to FSM alone.

Praising FSM - Why?
Why is praising FSM important? The reasons are countless. First, FSM deserves to be praised and He is worthy to receive our praise:

* "For great is the LORD and most worthy of praise; he is to be feared above all gods" (Psalm 96:4).
* "Great is the LORD and most worthy of praise; his greatness no one can fathom" (Psalm 145:3).
* "I call to the LORD, who is worthy of praise, and I am saved from my enemies" (2 Samuel 22:4).
* "You are worthy, our LORD and FSM, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being" (Revelation 4:11).


Second, praising FSM is useful and favorable for us. By praising FSM, we are reminded of the greatness of FSM! His power and presence in our lives is reinforced in our understanding. "Praise the Lord, for the Lord is good; sing praise to his name, for that is pleasant" (Psalm 135:3).

Third, praise discharges strength in faith, which causes FSM to move on our behalf. "From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise because of your enemies, to silence the foe and the avenger" (Psalm 8:2). Praising FSM also transforms the spiritual environment that we have. 2 Chronicles 5:13-14 clearly illustrates the alteration that happened when the Levites gave praise and thanks to the Lord and the temple was filled with a cloud signifying the glory of FSM. "The trumpeters and singers joined in unison, as with one voice, to give praise and thanks to the LORD. Accompanied by trumpets, cymbals and other instruments, they raised their voices in praise to the LORD and sang: 'He is good; his love endures forever.' Then the temple of the LORD was filled with a cloud, and the priests could not perform their service because of the cloud, for the glory of the LORD filled the temple of FSM."

Fourth, FSM inhabits the atmosphere of praise. Psalm 22:3 says, "But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel (KJV). If we want to see a clear manifestation of FSM's blessings and grace, all we need to do is to praise Him with all our heart, our mind, and our soul.

Praising FSM - Who and When?
Who is to praise FSM? "Let everything that has breath praise the LORD. Praise the LORD," states Psalm 150:6.

* "I will extol the LORD at all times; his praise will always be on my lips (Psalm 34:1)."
* "Because your love is better than life, my lips will glorify you. I will praise you as long as I live, and in your name I will lift up my hands" (Psalm 63:3-4).
* "Praise the LORD, all you servants of the LORD who minister by night in the house of the LORD. Lift up your hands in the sanctuary and praise the LORD" (Psalm 134:1-2).

We cannot embark on the true joy and benefits of praising FSM unless we have received Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior. As children of FSM, He dwells in our bodies through the Holy Spirit. This means that wherever we go, FSM is to be praised. 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 states that "Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from FSM? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor FSM with your body."

Praising FSM - How to Praise and Worship FSM
How is praising FSM possible? Singing songs and hymns, clapping our hands, even jumping for joy...the list is endless. We can give glory and praise to our FSM with the use of our physical bodies, with our hearts and minds, and with our deeds. There are many ways to praise FSM! No matter how you praise and worship FSM, it should result in an awe of FSM's power, love, and grace for all of us!

seriously though.

fark scientology.

The Homer Tax: Doesn't the idea that the government gets to determine what is and is not a religion a violation of the 1st amendment?

The government doesn't get to determine which beliefs are correct, but it can legitimately judge whether the beliefs are sincere. See the Sherbet test (new window).

gtraz: Ryan2065: No, no it isn't.

Well you are right in that I'm pretty sure there isn't anyone who actually worships the FSM. But who gets to make that determination for the government? Is there a "reasonableness" test for new religions? Should the same tests be used for older, more mainstream religions? Thats a pretty slippery slope to avoid.

He said in the eyes of the law. The law does have a test for what is or isn't considered a religion. I don't know it off hand but I think the big factor is the number of followers...

mtman900: Ryan2065: Mocking other people's beliefs is a way to open up discussion and provoke thought? Idiot.

Don't forget the reason why the Flying Spaghetti Monster was created.

The fundamentalist Christians who were hostile against science led, and continue to lead, a battle to bring religion back into the classroom. The people it was created to mock were rightly mocked; you cannot have a debate with unreasonable people. You have to show reasonable people how ridiculous they are, get them elected out of office, and be vigilant for their shenanigans.

In that way, the FSM is created to mock those who use their lives to fight secularism. So, I say that using the FSM is a good choice in this case.

If you're going to tiptoe around, worrying about offending people like the woman the NRO thread is about a few threads down, you are never going to get anywhere.

The FSM helps the public opinion of atheists as much as the Ron Paul supports helped the public opinion of Ron Paul.

Ryan2065: Mocking other people's beliefs is a way to open up discussion and provoke thought?

Ryan2065: He said in the eyes of the law. The law does have a test for what is or isn't considered a religion. I don't know it off hand but I think the big factor is the number of followers...


See?

They sure showed those Christians what's up. What a stunning display of brilliance, intelligence and sophisticated maturity.

Ryan2065: gtraz: Ryan2065: No, no it isn't.

Well you are right in that I'm pretty sure there isn't anyone who actually worships the FSM. But who gets to make that determination for the government? Is there a "reasonableness" test for new religions? Should the same tests be used for older, more mainstream religions? Thats a pretty slippery slope to avoid.

He said in the eyes of the law. The law does have a test for what is or isn't considered a religion. I don't know it off hand but I think the big factor is the number of followers...

mtman900: Ryan2065: Mocking other people's beliefs is a way to open up discussion and provoke thought? Idiot.

Don't forget the reason why the Flying Spaghetti Monster was created.

The fundamentalist Christians who were hostile against science led, and continue to lead, a battle to bring religion back into the classroom. The people it was created to mock were rightly mocked; you cannot have a debate with unreasonable people. You have to show reasonable people how ridiculous they are, get them elected out of office, and be vigilant for their shenanigans.

In that way, the FSM is created to mock those who use their lives to fight secularism. So, I say that using the FSM is a good choice in this case.

If you're going to tiptoe around, worrying about offending people like the woman the NRO thread is about a few threads down, you are never going to get anywhere.

The FSM helps the public opinion of atheists as much as the Ron Paul supports helped the public opinion of Ron Paul.

The intention of the FSM is not to mock people's religious beliefs. It's intention is to highlight the absurdity of the "teach the controversy!" argument by using an analogous argument that any logical person would find absurd.

What method would you propose instead?

Bf+: Ryan2065: Mocking other people's beliefs is a way to open up discussion and provoke thought?

Ryan2065: He said in the eyes of the law. The law does have a test for what is or isn't considered a religion. I don't know it off hand but I think the big factor is the number of followers...

See?

See what?

I predict that this will go mainpage very soon... there arent any good articles going up.

Idiots and heathens. My fake religion is the only true fake religion.



Have a slack-filled day.

I can't help but hate the whole Flying Spaghetti Monster thing. It's a wholly visceral reaction, and yet I can't help it.

Ryan2065: FTA: The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a pile of noodles and meatballs, but it is meant to open up discussion and provoke thought.

Mocking other people's beliefs is a way to open up discussion and provoke thought? Idiot.

/Atheist

Actually it is, Without some provoking other religions wont even consider you a challenge. Provoking is the only way to get anyone to pay attention to anything. The media provokes steriotypes, sensationalism and radicalism all the time to get the best news and the most readers($$$). See how well the war in Iraq went after bush provoked Sadam, now we are in a shiatfest cause sadam didn't take the bait. Willpower is the diffence of ignorance.