MSM better get on this.

I so hope this is true.

Bill Frist: MSM better get on this.

Agreed.

It is totally true. Been reported in a couple places now.

A gathering of religious leaders and a chance photo? As much as I hate Hillary, this seems like nothing.

"Turns out Bill Clinton turned to him for spiritual advice after Lewinsky scandal"

Where was this posted? I didn't see it in the link.

Visualingo [TotalFark] Quote 2008-03-20 08:22:26 PM
A gathering of religious leaders and a chance photo? As much as I hate Hillary, this seems like nothing.

I think what it shows is that Wright as been a respected and well established pastor in america for a long time. He isn't some freaky fringe dude who everyone was afraid of like the media is portraying him. He just made a few silly comments in random sermons.

Bill Frist: I think what it shows is that Wright as been a respected and well established pastor in america for a long time. He isn't some freaky fringe dude who everyone was afraid of like the media is portraying him. He just made a few silly comments in random sermons.

I guess I can see that, but also it could just be they snagged up 100 or so pastors from around the country without checking a little deeper.

"He was ridin' dirty!"

I still love that sermon quote from Wright about Clinton.

Bill Frist:

MSM better get on this any number of non Obama issues listed on the Politics tab.

MilesTeg: "He was ridin' dirty!"

THAT is hilarious.

/This still doesn't excuse Obama. It wasn't Bill that sat in the pews week after week, year after year.

Typical black minister.

One of them needs to stand aside, and let the other get the nomination. I suggest hand grenades at 10 paces.

They are going to hand this election to that son of a biatch McCain.

Given that this was Bill's "I have sinned" breakfast (I believe crow was served) and everyone there was carefully hand selected (to avoid any "Repent you Evil Sinner" photo ops) I think this blow up the whole "Looney Radical Pastor guy" portrait of the Rev Wright

Well, I have shaken hands with George W. Bush in a photo... so I guess you could say I offered him some spiritual advice on his presidency.

/He called me a 'good man'

Submitter:
Know how Hillary is saying Obama's pastor makes him unelectable?

I'm an Obama supporter, and I'm pretty sure that it's the right-wing lie machine, not Hillary, who are shoveling this.

If you don't think the Obama campaign didn't know about this, you're crazy.

For better or for worse, Obama has not played dirty in this campaign. He's refrained from the "Oh yeah? Well _____" politics of the past. Excuse the hyperbole, but America can't afford to not have Barack Obama.

Know how Hillary is saying Obama's pastor makes him unelectable? Turns out Bill Clinton turned to him for spiritual advice after Lewinsky scandal

So this is bad cause it makes Bill Clinton unelectable?

I'll give Hillary credit. She has stayed away from this one. Now we know why.

Impossible. A racist African separatist wouldn't step forth to help a white American politician. This is clearly the work of photoshop/Satan.

Partisan: Submitter:
Know how Hillary is saying Obama's pastor makes him unelectable?

I'm an Obama supporter, and I'm pretty sure that it's the right-wing lie machine, not Hillary, who are shoveling this.

So it's A, but not A?

Descartes: It wasn't Bill that sat in the pews week after week, year after year.

True, but it WAS Hillary who has been worshipping with this group since the early 1990's.

From their beliefs page:

"We believe the biblical account of Creation as depicted in the book of Genesis, that it is to be accepted literally and not allegorically; that God, not chaos, created the heavens and the earth. We also believe that on the sixth day of Creation, God formed the first humans in His own image and after His own likeness. He formed Adam out of the dust of the ground and breathed into him the breath of life, then later that day made Eve from Adam's rib; thus they became living souls by divine creation and not by random evolution. We also believe that God's visible creation provides clear testimony of His invisible existence. As our Creator, God deserves thanksgiving, reverence, and obedience from us as His creations."

/and here I was thinking Huckabee was out of the race.
//Oh wait. Huckabee has scruples. My bad.

Partisan: Submitter:
Know how Hillary is saying Obama's pastor makes him unelectable?

I'm an Obama supporter, and I'm pretty sure that it's the right-wing lie machine, not Hillary, who are shoveling this.

It's a combination of both.

This may explain why Hillary was somewhat quiet about this... compared to what she could have been, at least.

Clonod: I'll give Hillary credit. She has stayed away from this one. Now we know why.

What? No she hasn't.

Damn. Knew it was coming. Remember Hillary having to eat her own words about Rezko? Right back at ya, lady.

As an agnostic 34 year old white male that grew up in the south and now lives in Ohio, (yeah, that Ohio) I see very little wrong with what Rev. Wright said in his sermons.


He might have gone a little overboard but I've heard far worse from Sunday morning white "christian" preachers on Sunday....and no I don't suffer from white guilt.

Partisan: I'm an Obama supporter, and I'm pretty sure that it's the right-wing lie machine, not Hillary, who are shoveling this.

There's a difference?

Born to Die:
True, but it WAS Hillary who has been worshipping with this group since the early 1990's.


Also from their beliefs page:

We believe in the Scripture's teaching that civil government is of divine appointment, for the interest and order of human society. "Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake" (1 Peter 2:13). "Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the powers that exist are appointed by God" (Romans 13:1).

The only exception to this would be in matters of faith, where obedience to a law of man would mean disobedience to the law of God. Jesus Christ is King of kings and Lord of lords, and in such cases where the laws or ordinances would violate our faith or duty to worship God or witness our faith to others, our position is the same as the apostles': "We ought to obey God rather than men" (Acts 5:29).

And while we're there, check out the Life in the Family page.

I don't think HRC wants to get into religious questions.

Born to Die: True, but it WAS Hillary who has been worshipping with this group since the early 1990's.

Ha ha, I read about that in "The Nation." Apparently we are to believe that she used to sit between Brownback and Ashcroft while discussing how to remove a woman's right to choose. Sorry, I'm not buying it.

Kiler: white guilt

I like how the term 'white guilt' is a bad word in modern America. Wasn't the term created as a slur against Whites who argued for Civil Rights in the 1960s?

It wasn't Bill that sat in the pews week after week, year after year.



/sorry, couldn't help meself

Bill Frist: MSM better get on this.

That, and they need to dig deeper into the 11,000+ pages of White House documents.

Bill Frist: Visualingo [TotalFark] Quote 2008-03-20 08:22:26 PM
A gathering of religious leaders and a chance photo? As much as I hate Hillary, this seems like nothing.

I think what it shows is that Wright as been a respected and well established pastor in america for a long time. He isn't some freaky fringe dude who everyone was afraid of like the media is portraying him. He just made a few silly comments in random sermons.

Pretty much this. Wright has been a minister there for over 36 years and what we have is a handful of goofy comments.

Fart_Machine: Bill Frist: Visualingo [TotalFark] Quote 2008-03-20 08:22:26 PM
A gathering of religious leaders and a chance photo? As much as I hate Hillary, this seems like nothing.

I think what it shows is that Wright as been a respected and well established pastor in america for a long time. He isn't some freaky fringe dude who everyone was afraid of like the media is portraying him. He just made a few silly comments in random sermons.

Pretty much this. Wright has been a minister there for over 36 years and what we have is a handful of goofy comments.

One man's 2 minutes of you tube video showing "gooofy comments," is another man's "absolute and unequivocal proof of decades worth of non-stop propoganda against white people and america," I guess.

so, does clinton just not want black voters?

cause i mean, if THIS is the issue that finally swings the nomination to her, an average black preacher saying things you can hear in a thousand pulpits every year, you might as well go on and wrap it up for the election, if not the party

it took the massive FAIL that is bush to swing the house and senate, and we're just gonna give it back?

sure mccain is going to be bad, but damn - there ain't gonna be another game-changer like bush anytime soon...

guilt by association: That, and they need to dig deeper into the 11,000+ pages of White House documents.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/20/photograph-of-bill-clinton-and-rev -wright-surfaces/

lolmadillo: cause i mean, if THIS is the issue that finally swings the nomination to her, an average black preacher saying things you can hear in a thousand pulpits every year, you might as well go on and wrap it up for the election, if not the party

We don't really deserve Obama. I see McCain winning the general election anyway because we're probably dumb enough to believe that we need to go into Iran to stop the terrists.

/democracy gets you the government you deserve

This is such wonderful news.

OH MY GOD! THE PHOTO IS FROM SEPTEMBER 11TH*!!!

ALERT THE MEDIA!!! ALERT FOX NEWS!!!

*1998

It never ceases to amaze me how consistently hypocritical the Clintons are. Unbelievable.

I strongly want Obama to be the next president, but I get comfort from the fact that if Clinton is the nominee, she'll lose to McCain.

themindiswatching: /democracy gets you the government you deserve

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.

--H. L. Mencken

Bill Frist 2008-03-20 08:26:28 PM

I think what it shows is that Wright as been a respected and well established pastor in america for a long time. He isn't some freaky fringe dude who everyone was afraid of like the media is portraying him. He just made a few silly comments in random sermons.

Frist? Thanks for making my day! I havent laughed THIS hard at a Fark comment is ages!

Dude,what a GREAT sense of humor you have!

A White House spokeswoman said that 'a core group' of religious leaders was invited annually to the breakfasts... (new window)

The Clinton Mega-Hypocrisy strikes again. Go ahead guys, explain to us it's just a random photo op when the Clinton White House was saying he was a part of a 'core group' of leaders.

furiousxgeorge: A White House spokeswoman said that 'a core group' of religious leaders was invited annually to the breakfasts... (new w

Core? Do they have religious leaders in the Marine Core?

t3knomanser: Core? Do they have religious leaders in the Marine Core?

Wife-like typing detected.

t3knomanser: Marine Core Coors

Sorry, pet peeve.

t3knomanser: furiousxgeorge: A White House spokeswoman said that 'a core group' of religious leaders was invited annually to the breakfasts... (new w

Core? Do they have religious leaders in the Marine Core?

Yeah, Wright was a marine. :)

The Homer Tax

What? No she hasn't.

When? What did she say?

Did Clinton bust a fat nut on him too?