I'ma smack a biatch.

*shrug*

I don't know what the hell my campaign is doing... all I know if what *I'm* doing.

, subby?

How about ?!?!?

To which Obama will respond by "watch this speech!"

I'm an Obama supporter. I will still vote for him. I will not vote for Hillary.


However, Hillary sees blood in the pool. She is a shark and will be relentless. And quite frankly, she shouldn't be expected to do anything less.

Obama's biggest draw was that he was a crossover canidate. Wrights words and Obama's staying in the church might cost him the crossover votes. I thought his speach was brilliant, but the public has yet to absorb it...or take the time to hear all of it. Already they used his words as "Playing the race card" Or "blame whitey" He did not say those things, but THOSE are the parts of the speech they are running (as well as his Imus complaint)

He was misleading when it came to what he heard at the church "I didn't hear him say anything bad" to "Yes I heard some contraversial things"

His next few weeks are important.

1)He has to rebuild trust
2) He has to keep Hillary from winning big


Right now he is hurting-however he should take a clue from Clinton: Stick it out and ride it out. Had Clinton gave up after texas, she would have been out of the race tottally.

At this point all Hillary needs to do is get the popular vote...Delegates be dammend...and she can convince the Super Delegates is that she is indeed, the choice of the Democratic party.

Darth_Lukecash: His next few weeks are important.

1)He has to rebuild trust
2) He has to keep Hillary from winning big

There's a month 'till the PA election. That's like 85 different news cycles.

There's time.

Insurance_EE_guy: There's a month 'till the PA election. That's like 85 different news cycles.
There's time.

Oh yeah. Truly, this was timed impeccably. Knowing that this issue would come up at some point, please put on your tinfoil hat and ask yourself:

Who benefits from this Wright debacle being released right now?

curmudge: In eight years she could get her daughter elected as the youngest POTUS ever.

Nope. Read the constitution.


Senator Clinton doesn't care, she doesn't care about this country or anything else except it's her turn.

True.

President McCain would like to thank her for her crucial support. Only he's busy nuking Iceland right now so he can't.

Why not? She's got nothing better to do until the next Primary and she's got every right to point out what she thinks are Obama's weaknesses. What's she supposed to do? Kiss his ass all the way to the convention? This is politics not patty cakes.

sepuku2: What's she supposed to do? Kiss his ass all the way to the convention? This is politics not patty cakes.

You don't have a particularly good grasp of politics, do you?

Insurance_EE_guy:

There's a month 'till the PA election. That's like 85 different news cycles.

There's time.

The fortuneate thing is this came out when it did. As we saw with the Reziko case, it did not do enough to seriously damage Obama, but enough to perhaps take the lead from him in Texs.

However does this thing have legs or not? How he handles this is very, very important in the next few weeks. It would help If the reverand Wright would come out and either Apologize or make it clear that Obama has always chastised him or something.

Either way Hillary has the right to pound Obama on this, and she's doing it discretly-which is better than overtly.

valloned Senator Clinton's daughter is a natural born citizen of the US, she will be 36 (p) in 2016 and she has lived in the US for 14 years. I doubt she is planing to move anytime soon.

Darth_Lukecash: It would help If the reverand Wright would come out and either Apologize or make it clear that Obama has always chastised him or something.

I do not expect that at all. A, they want this guy to just go away, and B, if he did come out it would look like he was being a shill and tie him to Obama even more.

hillbillypharmacist: You don't have a particularly good grasp of politics, do you?

Shut up assface. Gimme a discount on some Prilosec OTC and I might invite you over for a beer sometime.

hillbillypharmacist: sepuku2: What's she supposed to do? Kiss his ass all the way to the convention? This is politics not patty cakes.

You don't have a particularly good grasp of politics, do you?

Now, now. Hillary is nothing if not pure Machiavellian. I can definitely see her behind closed doors saying, "Look, you and I know that this pastor flap is silly, but those voters out there aren't as smart as we are, and if Obama can't spin his way out of this, we'll lose in November." She'd be stupid, quite frankly, not to play the electablility angle.

sepuku2: hillbillypharmacist: You don't have a particularly good grasp of politics, do you?

Shut up assface. Gimme a discount on some Prilosec OTC and I might invite you over for a beer sometime.

Ha! I'm not gonna go to Pine Rough. You gotta come to Little Rock.

Nabb1: She'd be stupid, quite frankly, not to play the electablility angle.

And she's anything but. You're going to see more of this from her, and we shouldn't be surprised. The GOP always gets the grief for the dirty politics, but the Clintons have always practiced it as well as anybody.

We also should all stop with the mock outrage--politicians do this because it works, we respond to it. If you want to cast blame, blame the guy in your shaving mirror.

Darth_Lukecash: He was misleading when it came to what he heard at the church "I didn't hear him say anything bad" to "Yes I heard some contraversial things"

you raise good points about what people hear vs what he said, and this is another one of them.

he said he wasn't in church when those particular sermons were given. he didn't say he never heard anything bad, he said he didn't hear these three specific sermons.

but like you said, it isn't what he said, it's what someone tells you he said.

curmudge: However, she is missing a great opportunity, she should trade withdrawing from the race for Senate Majority Leader. She could then become one of the most powerful and perhaps in time most respected political leaders in the US. In eight years she could get her daughter elected as the youngest POTUS ever.

she should have done that before she pissed off the party leaders by praising mccain.

albo: blame the guy in your shaving mirror.

i have a beard, so i didn't do it.

curmudge: valloned Senator Clinton's daughter is a natural born citizen of the US, she will be 36 (p) in 2016 and she has lived in the US for 14 years. I doubt she is planing to move anytime soon.

You are correct, I didn't realize she was already 28.

Right now he is hurting-however he should take a clue from Clinton: Stick it out and ride it out. Had Clinton gave up after texas, she would have been out of the race tottally.

Your english teacher would be proud.

Insurance_EE_guy: I'ma smack a biatch.

*shrug*

I don't know what the hell my campaign is doing... all I know if what *I'm* doing.

Then they'd put you in jail. That would be a good place for you.

Dumb people who grow up watching Scoobie Doo don't know that there are non-violent ways to resolve conflicts. That is what is wrong with American foreign policy.

That is also what is wrong with violent video games. It's not the violence. It's the lack of non-violence, which is the only realistic way to solve problems.

It's all falling in line for the Clintons.

As for people not voting for Hillary for president...

I don't buy it. I hear all day Republicans saying they won't vote for McCain, Bush sucks, or the like. After every election they come out of the both having just voted straight ticket GOP.

Fear of another 4-8 years of a GOP president who is Bush's smarter but crazier cousin will be enough for millions of Democrats to hold their nose and vote for Hillary.

sepuku2: Why not? She's got nothing better to do until the next Primary and she's got every right to point out what she thinks are Obama's weaknesses. What's she supposed to do? Kiss his ass all the way to the convention? This is politics not patty cakes.

Yes, but the warehouse full of Chinese sticking pins into Obama voodoo dolls is just EXCESSIVE.

Which means, of course, she is

Subby is lying. But that's normal. you can't get greenlighted without lying. It isn't "newsworthy".

Cheers to Drew for making the world a better place. But the funny thing is, he's not alone. Much of american political discourse is lies and innuendo.

Unfortunately, we can'T lie our way out of the financial and political mess we're in.

ilambiquated: That is also what is wrong with violent video games. It's not the violence. It's the lack of non-violence, which is the only realistic way to solve problems.

First Person Dialoguers? I don't think that will sell too well, amigo.

LibertyFirst: It's all falling in line for the Clintons.

You soooooo want to believe that.

albo: Nabb1: She'd be stupid, quite frankly, not to play the electablility angle.

And she's anything but. You're going to see more of this from her, and we shouldn't be surprised. The GOP always gets the grief for the dirty politics, but the Clintons have always practiced it as well as anybody.

We also should all stop with the mock outrage--politicians do this because it works, we respond to it. If you want to cast blame, blame the guy in your shaving mirror.

The last refuge of the Republican is to accuse the Democrats of being Republican. There was a time when standing up for principles meant something.

2004
Terrorists! Terrorists!
Eek! I better vote Republican!

2006
Terrorists! Terrorists!
Ho-hum...

2008
Angry negro preachers! Angry negro preachers!
Eek!

Donald_McRonald: You soooooo want to believe that.

Have chart for the super delegates?

ilambiquated:
That is also what is wrong with violent video games. It's not the violence. It's the lack of non-violence, which is the only realistic way to solve problems.

What do you expect us to do? Exterminate the Flood and fend off a Covenant armada with a bag of twinkies and a sunny disposition?

Actually don't bother. I found the info:

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/02/ultimate-delegate-tracker.html

Hillary is leading Obama in super delegates 246 to 210. She's definitely still in the race.

Hey, I'm on your side really. I hope to God that Hillary doesn't win, but the narrative favors her.

ilambiquated: Dumb people who grow up watching Scoobie Doo don't know that there are non-violent ways to resolve conflicts. That is what is wrong with American foreign policy.


Dumb people aslo don't know the difference between a humorous expression and real statement of intent.

Dumb people also don't know when they are feeding the trolls.

LibertyFirst: Have chart for the super delegates?

Out of 794, 208 are for Obama and 237 are for Clinton.

Darth_Lukecash: Hillary sees blood in the pool

Meh, black people can't swim.

Remove all Republicans: Wait, Obama praises Reagan and there's no problem, but Hillary praises McCain and there's a uproar?

Obama said Reagan put America on a different trajectory in a way that Nixon and Clinton did not, which is true, and in any case he's dead. Hillary said McCain "crossed the commander-in-chief threshold"- considering that Iraq will be a major issue in '08 and McCain has been consistently wrong on it, praising him for his military ideas is working against yourself.

LibertyFirst: Actually don't bother. I found the info:

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/02/ultimate-delegate-tracker.html

Hillary is leading Obama in super delegates 246 to 210. She's definitely still in the race.

Hey, I'm on your side really. I hope to God that Hillary doesn't win, but the narrative favors her.

And if you'd poked around a bit more on that site, you'd see she has less now than at any other point in her candidacy.

Remove all Republicans: burndtdan: curmudge: However, she is missing a great opportunity, she should trade withdrawing from the race for Senate Majority Leader. She could then become one of the most powerful and perhaps in time most respected political leaders in the US. In eight years she could get her daughter elected as the youngest POTUS ever.

she should have done that before she pissed off the party leaders by praising mccain.

Wait, Obama praises Reagan and there's no problem, but Hillary praises McCain and there's a uproar?

two points:

1) reagan is not running for president this time around, so praising him would not affect the current election.
2) he never praised reagan. he spoke honestly about reagan, and about the democrats that lost to him.

sepuku2: Why not? She's got nothing better to do until the next Primary and she's got every right to point out what she thinks are Obama's weaknesses. What's she supposed to do? Kiss his ass all the way to the convention? This is politics not patty cakes.

There are a lot of people that are sick of this kind of politics. I would rather hear what these people plan to do and why I should vote for them instead of why I shouldn't vote for the other person.

Hideously Gigantic Smurf: 2004
Terrorists! Terrorists!
Eek! I better vote Republican!

2006
Terrorists! Terrorists!
Ho-hum...

2008
Angry negro preachers! Angry negro preachers!
Eek!

I'm still fascinated by the fact that this came out so late in the game. Wright's church services were on broadcast TV, at least in the Chicago area, every Sunday for the last 20 years. Does pretty much no one ever watch TV churchery?

LibertyFirst: Hillary is leading Obama in super delegates 246 to 210. She's definitely still in the race.

Hey, I'm on your side really. I hope to God that Hillary doesn't win, but the narrative favors her.

She can't win based on pledged votes, and this scandal isn't big enough to have the superdelegates overturn the will of the voters. I'd imagine that the party would lose a lot of members if it happened.

Remove all Republicans: Wait, Obama praises Reagan and there's no problem, but Hillary praises McCain and there's a uproar?

That's because Obama is, when you think about it, the most Reaganesque of the leading candidates.

He's willing to raise taxes if necessary.
He's willing to talk to our enemies.
He doesn't exclude any of his fellow Americans when he addresses political issues.

I just hope his domestic policy won't be as schitty as Reagan's was, but we'll just have to wait and see.

AmazingRuss: What do you expect us to do? Exterminate the Flood and fend off a Covenant armada with a bag of twinkies and a sunny disposition?

haha. This made me chuckle.

Hideously Gigantic Smurf: That's because Obama is, when you think about it, the most Reaganesque of the leading candidates.

He's willing to raise taxes if necessary.
He's willing to talk to our enemies.
He doesn't exclude any of his fellow Americans when he addresses political issues.

People have a cult-like affinity for him?

/yeah, I went there

Obama's lucky that there are still a couple of weeks before the Penn. primaries. It gives him a chance to rebound from the Pastor Problem (TM).