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(CNN) Scary And lo the third seal was broken, as Rachael Ray combines forces with a pretentious indie rock festival   (cnn.com) divider line 29
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question_dj [TotalFark] 2008-03-17 03:09:28 PM  
What exactly is "indie rock" these days? Is Animal Collective classified as "indie rock" or are they "indie folk"? What about Yonder Mountain String Band? Are they like "indie grass"?

 
Control_this [TotalFark] 2008-03-17 03:15:38 PM  
Yuuu uuum!

 
FeedTheCollapse 2008-03-17 03:37:08 PM  
question_dj: What exactly is "indie rock" these days?
"Indie Rock" = Alternative of the 00s. A catch-all term that some jackasses actually think is a genre.

 
Zack-Morris 2008-03-17 03:45:10 PM  
Rachael "Big Nips" Ray. Yummo.

 
WaltzingMathilda [TotalFark] 2008-03-17 04:18:21 PM  
What's so hard about it? "Indie" = independent label. "Rock" = well, rock n' roll.

Try to define rock n' roll, though.

So, FeedtheCollapse, "alternative of the 00s" is still "alternative rock" ... whether it's on a major label or not. Use your negativity for more informed posts.

 
carmody 2008-03-17 04:21:23 PM  
I applaud subby for spelling her name correctly.

 
BoneStorm 2008-03-17 04:26:27 PM  
I went to this. Hard to get to the food. Harder to listen to the music.

 
Torc 2008-03-17 04:39:27 PM  
FeedTheCollapse: question_dj: What exactly is "indie rock" these days?
"Indie Rock" = Alternative of the 00s. A catch-all term that some jackasses actually think is a genre.


Eh, it means both, really. Most genres in history that started out as a specific philosophical or technical designation that eventually got adopted as a vague reference to a type of sound - Indie, Alternative, Punk, Minimalism, etc. It's just easier than saying "Indie-influenced" or "Indie-ish" or "the indie sound but on a non-indie label".

 
FeedTheCollapse 2008-03-17 04:41:42 PM  
WaltzingMathilda: So, FeedtheCollapse, "alternative of the 00s" is still "alternative rock" ... whether it's on a major label or not. Use your negativity for more informed posts.



Alternative in the 90s to most meant "OMG, it sounds like Nirvana!" when it was really a catch-all label that basically referred to anyone outside of the mainstream and applied to bands with little or no common musical threads. When the alternative to mainstream became the mainstream, it became a pretty useless label.


The same thing is happening for the term indie. I get the feeling now that "Indie", in the minds of most, = sounds like Bright Eyes, when they are just a small fraction of that term.

 
fark_of_the_covenant 2008-03-17 04:47:29 PM  
"Rachael Ray presents ... edgy music?"

No.

 
Crewmannumber6 2008-03-17 04:53:02 PM  
There are seven seals to be openned before the apocalypse, the third one is really no big deal.

 
WaltzingMathilda [TotalFark] 2008-03-17 05:01:47 PM  
FeedTheCollapse: WaltzingMathilda: So, FeedtheCollapse, "alternative of the 00s" is still "alternative rock" ... whether it's on a major label or not. Use your negativity for more informed posts.



Alternative in the 90s to most meant "OMG, it sounds like Nirvana!" when it was really a catch-all label that basically referred to anyone outside of the mainstream and applied to bands with little or no common musical threads. When the alternative to mainstream became the mainstream, it became a pretty useless label.


The same thing is happening for the term indie. I get the feeling now that "Indie", in the minds of most, = sounds like Bright Eyes, when they are just a small fraction of that term.


Well, then it's just a misinterpretation by most people of an already established term. Indie has been used for decades solely to define "independent releases." Hatful of Hollow by the Smiths in the first half of the 80s was considered "one of the most influential indie releases" ever, and a lot of people wouldn't pool that in with what you're saying is "indie rock."

So, you're right in a sense. Perhaps the people who do think "indie" is a genre are jackasses and my snark was misdirected.

 
mishmashmusic 2008-03-17 05:08:41 PM  
The term "indie" originally came from college bands in the early/mid 80s who were signed to smaller independent labels instead of the majors (think R.E.M., Minutemen, Husker Du, Dinosaur Jr, etc).

And, yes, it has been bastardized to mean many different things, kind of like "alternative".

 
thomps [TotalFark] 2008-03-17 05:08:59 PM  
as far as i'm concerned, the term "indie" is only tangentially related to music. it is just another way of describing "scene kids" and "hipsters."

 
mfaby 2008-03-17 05:58:43 PM  
Racheal Ray presents music at SXSW?

SXSW is officially over.

 
andrewabc 2008-03-17 06:12:29 PM  
I think of indie rock or indie being music that is not played on any of my local radio stations and that my friends have never heard of (because they listen to whatever they are told to listen to by the radio stations that play the same shiat every day).

Funny how Feist did not have any airtime on my local radio stations until after the ipod commercial.
It's as if she magically became relevant afterwards. Or maybe it was because the big industry decided she was worth the investment of airtime?

 
thomps [TotalFark] 2008-03-17 06:13:55 PM  
Funny how Feist did not have any airtime on my local radio stations until after the ipod commercial.
It's as if she magically became relevant afterwards. Or maybe it was because the big industry decided she was worth the investment of airtime?


so does that mean Feist is no longer indie?

 
Archstanton 2008-03-17 07:50:59 PM  
I would hit it in the garbage bowl but this is getting to be re-god-damn-dick-ulous.

WTF is SXSW BTW?

 
DD0 [TotalFark] 2008-03-17 09:51:08 PM  
I listen to the Left of Center channel on Sirius radio and one of the MP3Js talks about her often. She apparently said she listen to the channel on her show or something.

Fortunately he seems to be mocking the fact that she did so.

 
theurge14 2008-03-17 09:55:54 PM  
That's it, I'm going to start a band named 'Rachel Ray Please fark The fark Off farking Now O-farking-k?"

 
bobthenewsman 2008-03-17 10:47:35 PM  
South By Southwest Music Festival.
It's a major snark-magnet put on every year by some people associated with the Austin Chronicle. It includes film, new media, and most famously music festivals.
Being media, with a media badge, SXSW is as much fun as I've ever had in my life. Thousands of musical acts, music industry people, and thousands of different ways to make a living at having fun.
Unfortunately, so many people with big dreams are left sleeping on couches, blaming others for not handing them the brass ring, and making them the next big thing.
But if you just want to hang with interesting people and listen to a wide variety of music, SXSW is a great time.

 
Baumer 2008-03-18 12:21:18 AM  
And lo, Baumer put it in any and every orifice Rachael Ray had available at the time. And it was good. For him. She, on the other hand, ain't gonna shiat right for a week.

 
smokedog22 2008-03-18 12:23:26 AM  
SXSW = A crappy music festival popularized by MTV

 
smokedog22 2008-03-18 12:27:25 AM  
Bobthenewsman
But if you just want to hang with interesting people and listen to a wide variety of music, SXSW is a great time.

If you want that, go to the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival.
You will have a much better time

 
jimb213 2008-03-18 01:32:49 AM  
I was paid to be there, so here's my short review. It was at the Beauty Bar on 7th street. Pedro from Napoleon Dynamite was the DJ inside. The 1st band Autovaughn was pretty good mainstream rock, The Ravonettes were good at what they did, I guess, but I didn't like what they did, The Cringe was cool 'cause Billy Gibbons from ZZ Top came on stage and played on a song, and Scissors for Lefty were freakin' great. SfL were very 80's, not really my thing, but they put on an incredible show and were very fun to watch. They were definitely a highlight of the event.

The sliders and the mac & cheese were very tasty.

Rachael Ray is shorter than I though, and cute & friendly in person.

I can't wait for the 90's to be the "in" thing. I'm tired of flock of seagulls hair and pink clothing everywhere I look, and seeing people wearing clothes I wore in elementary school.

 
buddyrtr 2008-03-18 08:48:48 AM  
Rachael is the girl I WISH lived next door!

 
skotsour 2008-03-18 12:18:29 PM  
BoneStorm: I went to this. Hard to get to the food. Harder to listen to the music.

The 7-layer Sliders were delicious...

 
bourneobscurity 2008-03-18 10:36:43 PM  
Toki Wartooth's prayer to satan was ineffective!

/This is Rachael Ray of the food network, right?
//I haven't just made a complete tool of myself, right?

 
nadia2004 2008-03-21 06:16:04 AM  
theurge14: That's it, I'm going to start a band named 'Rachel Ray Please fark The fark Off farking Now O-farking-k?"

Can I join?

 
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