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(Daily Mail) Asinine Lose a leg fighting in Iraq and you'll get £57,000 compensation. But straining your back lifting a printer at the Ministry of Defense gets you £202,000. All hail the Chairborne Brigade   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 51
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KittySoft [TotalFark] 2008-03-16 05:42:59 PM  
Lose a leg and marry Paul McCartney, and you'll get $50,000,000 compensation.

 
ZAZ [TotalFark] 2008-03-16 06:31:57 PM  

If you read to the end you'll get to this bit:

Last night a spokeswoman for the Ministry of Defence said that the compensation figures offered to civilian employees were one-off payments, while soldiers also received up to 90 per cent of their salaries tax free, rising with inflation, for the rest of their lives.
So how are British army salaries? The U.S. Army doesn't pay much because the government covers room and board.

 
Don't Tase Me Bro 2008-03-16 06:37:11 PM  
Look on the bright side:
hang on to that £57,000 for a few more hours, and you'll be able to buy Bear Stearns with it.

/not that it's worth that much

 
turkey_baster 2008-03-16 08:57:22 PM  
KittySoft: Lose a leg and marry Paul McCartney, and you'll get $50,000,000 compensation.

Boom! Thread over on the Boobies!

 
BassTurd 2008-03-16 08:57:50 PM  
REMFs

/Air Assault FTW

 
turkey_baster 2008-03-16 08:58:27 PM  
D'Oh!

/Filtowned :(

 
smokedog22 2008-03-16 08:58:59 PM  
www.solarnavigator.net

The MoD has a great dental plan too, yeah baby

 
Bohemian 2008-03-16 09:01:43 PM  
I was going to suggest some asskicking on the Brit government until I saw this:

"Last night a spokeswoman for the Ministry of Defence said that the compensation figures offered to civilian employees were one-off payments, while soldiers also received up to 90 per cent of their salaries tax free, rising with inflation, for the rest of their lives."

Still better than what many of ours get from the US.

 
Jebdiahbob 2008-03-16 09:05:04 PM  
ZAZ: If you read to the end you'll get to this bit:Last night a spokeswoman for the Ministry of Defence said that the compensation figures offered to civilian employees were one-off payments, while soldiers also received up to 90 per cent of their salaries tax free, rising with inflation, for the rest of their lives.So how are British army salaries? The U.S. Army doesn't pay much because the government covers room and board.


From the MOD website:
New Entrant £12,571.92

ranges up to about 40k for a Warrant Officer Class 1

 
fanbladesaresharp 2008-03-16 09:09:53 PM  
And someone's National Health Care system is paying for it. Actually all of them are now.

 
gweilo8888 2008-03-16 09:13:15 PM  
KittySoft: "Lose a leg and marry Paul McCartney, and you'll get $50,000,000 compensation."

Which is still nowhere near enough to compensate you for living inside his aura of smugness and self satisfaction.

 
gweilo8888 2008-03-16 09:15:50 PM  
FTFA: "while soldiers also received up to 90 per cent of their salaries"

Sorry, but I don't want to see "up to". I want to see "at least". "Up to" is what you get when your daddy's a senior officer.

I have a feeling "at least" would look a LOT less rosy. I just don't know how bad. 10% of their pay? 25%? I somehow doubt it is over 50%.

 
billyboyxoxox 2008-03-16 09:20:06 PM  
The Mike Oldfield link is cool. Sorry about the Americanisms in Britain. Ray-gun

 
sarcastic664 2008-03-16 09:20:25 PM  
Chairborne leads the way... to the O club to have some beers.

 
BullDogg34F 2008-03-16 09:27:20 PM  
Regardless, 90% of 12 thousand a year... isn't enough for anyone to live on...

 
blick [TotalFark] 2008-03-16 09:29:20 PM  
oh bloody 'ell. how hard is this to figure out?
just come back, then while you're filling out all of the paperwork for losing your leg in combat and printing multiple copies of them as required for the bureaucrats, oopsy you lift the printer wrong and...

 
Welcome to the Machine [TotalFark] 2008-03-16 09:33:10 PM  
Some of those printers can be pretty nasty characters.

You tie into an old HP Laser.

 
Goodfella 2008-03-16 09:43:15 PM  
In case you brave yet duped soldiers didn't know it yet, you are used as cannon fodder and as guinee pigs for studying depleted uranium poisoning.

Disposable heros is how you are treated by your government. Nothing new. You shouldn't be surprised.

 
TexasIsBetter 2008-03-16 09:43:56 PM  
BullDogg34F: Regardless, 90% of 12 thousand a year... isn't enough for anyone to live on...

Mexicans working until their 90 for 4 bucks a day beg to differ.

 
BullDogg34F 2008-03-16 09:52:47 PM  
TexasIsBetter: BullDogg34F: Regardless, 90% of 12 thousand a year... isn't enough for anyone to live on...

Mexicans working until their 90 for 4 bucks a day beg to differ.


OH I'm so sorry... you must of missed the key word there.... "live"
Used to a different standard of "living"

/just saying

 
starsrift 2008-03-16 09:57:40 PM  
I wasn't aware that the British armed forces were a mercenary army.

That's what the military is. You take a shiatty pay to defend your country and put your life and body on the line.

Bureaucrats are not expected to be in situations in which they hurt themselves. And they're working for cash.

Man up, nancy boy.

 
chunderlove 2008-03-16 09:59:48 PM  
Apparently £57,000 can only buy a deformed/gigantism foot prosthesis.

i242.photobucket.com

 
itsfullofstars 2008-03-16 10:04:40 PM  
A very British on Fark tonight.

 
MagnumP1 2008-03-16 10:16:22 PM  
www.airsoftpacific.com

 
BullDogg34F 2008-03-16 10:17:10 PM  
DulceEtDecorumEst: The problem is not that payouts are too low, its that they exist in the first place. Paying the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan when they are hurt, just encourages them to put themselves at greater risk of getting hurt, which feeds the lib propaganda about how the Iraq war was a bad thing to start with, when it has realy marked a new transition of an opporessed society. You see, the troops need to be encouraged to do their job, but not in a way that causes injury, so the war can continue and meet our mission. For this reason, if they want to be real patriots, they should be fine with medals for their service, and not demand cash or make silly comparisons to people with different jobs. Honor is honor, if you want to play the vet card, and get respect fine, but the second you start playing the press/lawyer/make the guvrment make mr rich card, you are not a soldier, you're just another greedy hand reaching into the public trough.

Injury is one of those funny side effects to war... happens even if a Soldier is doing their job.

The public pays our regular salary, so does that mean we should not want to get paid at all?

On another note, If you end up getting a job, you should go buy a book, read it, and hopefully learn to spell the word government, because I'm sure they will one day be taking care of you

 
Yunus 2008-03-16 10:17:16 PM  
But DulceEtDecorumEst what if said soldier is a journalist in the military or a lawyer in the military. Should he be denied the vet card that he earned as a lawyer in the military? Your logic is flawed.

/Plus if your being sarcastic you should exaggerate a bit more cause some people might view it like that.
/If you really do view it like that. Sorry about the sarcasm remark... Oh and your a dick!

 
Katzenjammer 2008-03-16 10:18:31 PM  
DulceEtDecorumEst

You're an idiot, but that was pretty good trolling.

 
pugsleythegreat 2008-03-16 10:25:50 PM  
BullDogg34F

that's some awesome satire you got goin there bud.

 
CourtroomWolf 2008-03-16 10:29:49 PM  
I fell and bumped my head, and got paid about $5,000,000 for it. Well, I guess it was kind of my fault because the office guys pooled about $200 for me to do a backflip off my desk. I landed on my feet, but off balance, my head crashed into a chair with rollers, sending it rolling across the room, and it left a mark on my head that lasted an entire hour.

None of the bosses from the company needs to know about the attempted backflip part. That's really not a big deal, other than me being a friggin' hero in the office for doing something so ballsy. What's important is that I was injured at work, and I deserve proper compensation...

/printers can be damn heavy (I had to carry one that must've been 40 lbs), so I can see where that guy's coming from.

 
0Icky0 2008-03-16 10:32:19 PM  
But surely you'll be allowed to starve to death in one of the Queen's parks?

 
onezero [TotalFark] 2008-03-16 10:34:47 PM  
Hey, don't get mad at the office worker for having a better union. Plus, he/she probably didn't sign a contract that said he wouldn't sue if injured.

 
TheyCallThisWork 2008-03-16 10:47:09 PM  
No one mentioned lifetime healthcare, btw. The printer guy, I'm guessing, didn't get any of that. So, after 2 or 3 back surgeries, he'll be flat broke, except with a bad back, no pension, and worried about his next job.

My dad got a purple heart, and as a result, he's never paid a nickel for healthcare in 40 years. He feels it is his personal duty to get everything he can for being sent to vietnam in the first place.

He's hinted to me that he wants a military funeral, as well. Anyone know how that works? What paperwork I have to fill out.

 
dr-shotgun 2008-03-16 10:51:56 PM  
The problem is not that payouts are too low, its that they exist in the first place. Paying the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan when they are hurt, just encourages them to put themselves at greater risk of getting hurt, which feeds the lib propaganda about how the Iraq war was a bad thing to start with, when it has realy marked a new transition of an opporessed society. You see, the troops need to be encouraged to do their job, but not in a way that causes injury, so the war can continue and meet our mission. For this reason, if they want to be real patriots, they should be fine with medals for their service, and not demand cash or make silly comparisons to people with different jobs. Honor is honor, if you want to play the vet card, and get respect fine, but the second you start playing the press/lawyer/make the guvrment make mr rich card, you are not a soldier, you're just another greedy hand reaching into the public trough.


::golf clap::

Well played sir, well played!

 
BullDogg34F 2008-03-16 10:54:28 PM  
dr-shotgun: The problem is not that payouts are too low, its that they exist in the first place. Paying the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan when they are hurt, just encourages them to put themselves at greater risk of getting hurt, which feeds the lib propaganda about how the Iraq war was a bad thing to start with, when it has realy marked a new transition of an opporessed society. You see, the troops need to be encouraged to do their job, but not in a way that causes injury, so the war can continue and meet our mission. For this reason, if they want to be real patriots, they should be fine with medals for their service, and not demand cash or make silly comparisons to people with different jobs. Honor is honor, if you want to play the vet card, and get respect fine, but the second you start playing the press/lawyer/make the guvrment make mr rich card, you are not a soldier, you're just another greedy hand reaching into the public trough.


::golf clap::

Well played sir, well played!


TOOL

 
Ken_B 2008-03-16 10:55:04 PM  
The courts might be factoring in ability to get further income, cost of healing etc.
For instance, if the guy loses a leg in Afghanistan and gets patched up by military doctors, he mightn't need to pay the private rates that the public servant would.
In no way am I trying to say that this is right or fair, but rather I want to provoke more skeptical thinking. Sick of newspapers just saying whatever will jerk our chain most, and then walking away. People should be asking newspapers (or seeking out better sources) for the details.

I do think soldiers should out-earn private workers.

 
The_Time_Master 2008-03-16 11:23:55 PM  
TheyCallThisWork: He's hinted to me that he wants a military funeral, as well. Anyone know how that works? What paperwork I have to fill out.

http://www.militaryfuneralhonors.osd.mil/faqpage.html (new window)

/You're welcome. *hugs*
//The Navy farked up my knee surgery after three dislocations, so I have dealt with the VA ever since 2000.

 
ThematicDevice 2008-03-16 11:36:55 PM  
TheyCallThisWork: No one mentioned lifetime healthcare, btw. The printer guy, I'm guessing, didn't get any of that. So, after 2 or 3 back surgeries, he'll be flat broke, except with a bad back, no pension, and worried about his next job.

As I remember isn't health care in Britain free?

 
j0ndas 2008-03-16 11:54:09 PM  
In all fairness, prosthetics these days are so good that you're not impaired that much getting a replacement leg, but good luck fixing a screwed-up back.

Still, $200K for a self-inflicted wound is just ridiculous.

 
VarnsenVandelayPennypacker 2008-03-16 11:55:31 PM  
img.photobucket.com

 
BearToy [TotalFark] 2008-03-17 01:19:25 AM  
Halliburton executives and stockholders thank all of you who have made them as rich as God intended through the loss of your lives and limbs during the Iraqi invasion and occupation. Keep calling it a "war" America and we'll be able to get away with absolutely anything.

 
Don't Tase Me Bro 2008-03-17 04:39:06 AM  
j0ndas: In all fairness, prosthetics these days are so good that you're not impaired that much getting a replacement leg, but good luck fixing a screwed-up back.

I don't know if I'd want to lose a limb (and it's not like a surgical amputation: they're getting blown off).
However, I do have three torn lumber disks, and nobody here in the USA wants to even try fixing them.

/chronic pain FTL

 
Don't Tase Me Bro 2008-03-17 04:39:52 AM  
lumbar

/it's early

 
Two Dogs Farking [TotalFark] 2008-03-17 04:43:55 AM  
Don't Tase Me Bro: However, I do have three torn lumber disks

Timberrrrrrrrrrr

 
logruszed 2008-03-17 07:40:01 AM  
americanhonor.bizland.com

 
maddogdelta [TotalFark] 2008-03-17 07:47:47 AM  
DulceEtDecorumEst: The problem is not that payouts are too low, its that they exist in the first place. Paying the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan when they are hurt, just encourages them to put themselves at greater risk of getting hurt, which feeds the lib propaganda about how the Iraq war was a bad thing to start with, when it has realy marked a new transition of an opporessed society. You see, the troops need to be encouraged to do their job, but not in a way that causes injury, so the war can continue and meet our mission. For this reason, if they want to be real patriots, they should be fine with medals for their service, and not demand cash or make silly comparisons to people with different jobs. Honor is honor, if you want to play the vet card, and get respect fine, but the second you start playing the press/lawyer/make the guvrment make mr rich card, you are not a soldier, you're just another greedy hand reaching into the public trough.

That post is so full of stupid, I don't know where to start.

How 'bout you just take your neocon ass over to Iraq and fight your own damn war yourself.

 
logruszed 2008-03-17 07:59:18 AM  
maddogdelta: That post is so full of stupid, I don't know where to start.

How 'bout you just take your neocon ass over to Iraq and fight your own damn war yourself.


www.jumperlumps.com

 
Captain Swoop 2008-03-17 08:09:46 AM  
BullDogg34F: Regardless, 90% of 12 thousand a year... isn't enough for anyone to live on...

For those who didn't notice the currency sign, that "£12 thousand" works out to about "24 thousand" in the US, which a huge number of people "live" on over here, and much,much more than most injured US soldiers get paid after their medical discharge...

Not saying its a good wage, especially for someone dealing with a handicap, but there's plenty of people who would be thrilled to live on 90% of £12K.

 
nmiguy 2008-03-17 09:31:54 AM  
Appropriate use of asinine tag...

 
rpl 2008-03-17 09:38:13 AM  
That's all fine and dandy, but did anyone notice Jennifer Aniston's pics in the links to the right of the article?

 
maddogdelta [TotalFark] 2008-03-17 03:47:39 PM  
logruszed: www.jumperlumps.com

Congratulations, dickwad. You're my first ever ignore.

 
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