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(Think Progress) PSA A year ago, McCain travelled to a Baghdad market with a security detail of 100 soldiers and five helicopters. Today, the US won't even go into the market. SURG'D   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 33
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Pocket Ninja [TotalFark] 2008-03-16 06:09:38 PM  
The US won't go into the market as part of a concentrated effort to de-emphasize rampant consumerism and self-destructive spending in Iraq. Allowing soldiers to go there would, in effect, be telling Iraqis that now, at this critical juncture in their nation's history, with so many corners turned and so many milestones buried in the dust of history, that they should now step away from the careful conservation these past several years, their self-diligence and dutiful efforts to save, to stockpile, to cache, when what is really required is a careful nurturing of a fledgling economy. Hog wild in a market? Don't be ridiculous. We should applaud the US for not entering the market, for having learned its lessons from its own economic difficulties and therefore having the wisdom, the experience, the know-how to say to its desert-dwelling brothers that no, you shall not stumble where we have stumbled. You shall not fall where we have fallen. Yes, we still suckle on the cash-engorged teat of rampant spending and dependence on foreign oil, but this does not have to be your story, Iraq. It does not have to be yours. Stay out of the market, my children. Stay out and keep your money, your capital, close to your chest. And when that final corner is turned and the American flag flies proudly over that shining oil derrick of freedom in the desert, then you will see that it was all for the best. Yes, then you will see.

 
Control_this [TotalFark] 2008-03-16 06:12:24 PM  
If we can't walk freely in that Baghdad market, the soldiers will have died in vain. So things are going great in Iraq. Don't be an appeaser.

 
shanrick [TotalFark] 2008-03-16 06:15:51 PM  
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FeedTheCollapse 2008-03-16 06:45:38 PM  
www.x-entertainment.com

 
kregh99 2008-03-16 06:49:30 PM  
Oh.

So McCain is full of shiat.

/thought so.

 
PlasticMoby 2008-03-16 06:50:12 PM  
Control_this: the soldiers will have died in vain

FTFY and QFT

 
DD0 [TotalFark] 2008-03-16 06:50:53 PM  
PocketNinja

That is one serious sentence.

 
chu2dogg 2008-03-16 06:54:19 PM  
uhh huh....

So the "corporate" media explaining to us that Iraq is not safer is "proof" that the "corporate" media is trying to hide from us that Iraq is not safer?

/Yeah, i used scare quotes, what?

 
jso2897 2008-03-16 06:55:23 PM  
Well, mission a-frickin'-complished. Again.

 
19 Kilo 2008-03-16 06:56:32 PM  
Pocket Ninja:

Can I buy some pot from you?

 
fortean chicken 2008-03-16 07:01:13 PM  
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moops 2008-03-16 07:05:58 PM  
McCain's Dukakis momentwww.huffingtonpost.com

 
The_Gallant_Gallstone [TotalFark] 2008-03-16 07:10:21 PM  
Enjoyed the Weeners.

How's that surge working for you, McSurgie?

 
falser 2008-03-16 07:11:38 PM  
Two faced liar. I can't stand this guy. Same as Bush -- lies his ass off, and then scolds anyone who speaks up. Gotta be good Americans and listen to what your president tells you.

 
helix400 2008-03-16 07:15:32 PM  
"Jim, but our own security advisers here in Iraq did not want us to go there. They didn't believe it was safe for an American to be in that area. We were in a thriving marketplace nearby.

But when you show up, the local Iraqis, while it is clear security is better on the street - it is clear there are more markets open, just the traffic jams alone tell you that things are better on the streets of Baghdad - it's also a very sensitive potential neighborhoods."

So, overall, things are definitely better than last year.

 
El_Dan 2008-03-16 07:27:06 PM  
Man, how many more yellow ribbons do I have to stick on my car before we start winning the war?

 
TMBGfreak 2008-03-16 07:27:25 PM  
Pocket Ninja:

White space:



Let me show you some.


My brain is entirely too fried from basketball and xbox all day to understand that.

 
keithgabryelski [TotalFark] 2008-03-16 07:28:26 PM  
helix400:
So, overall, things are definitely better than last year.


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farbles 2008-03-16 07:50:15 PM  
Wow, a Republican lying about Iraq. Who would have thought it?



/Actually the first sentence is just as true with the last two words taken off.

/And the answer to the rhetorical question is less than half of the American voting population, unfortunately.

 
Sleeping Monkey [TotalFark] 2008-03-16 08:00:22 PM  
Pocket Ninja:


Breathe, boy! Breathe! Don't forget to breathe!

 
Relatively Obscure [TotalFark] 2008-03-16 08:03:34 PM  
Pocket Ninja: The US won't go into the market as part of a concentrated effort to de-emphasize rampant consumerism and self-destructive spending in Iraq. Allowing soldiers to go there would, in effect, be telling Iraqis that now, at this critical juncture in their nation's history, with so many corners turned and so many milestones buried in the dust of history, that they should now step away from the careful conservation these past several years, their self-diligence and dutiful efforts to save, to stockpile, to cache, when what is really required is a careful nurturing of a fledgling economy. Hog wild in a market? Don't be ridiculous. We should applaud the US for not entering the market, for having learned its lessons from its own economic difficulties and therefore having the wisdom, the experience, the know-how to say to its desert-dwelling brothers that no, you shall not stumble where we have stumbled. You shall not fall where we have fallen. Yes, we still suckle on the cash-engorged teat of rampant spending and dependence on foreign oil, but this does not have to be your story, Iraq. It does not have to be yours. Stay out of the market, my children. Stay out and keep your money, your capital, close to your chest. And when that final corner is turned and the American flag flies proudly over that shining oil derrick of freedom in the desert, then you will see that it was all for the best. Yes, then you will see.

/QFIDon'tKnowBecauseIDidn'tReadIt

 
Walker [TotalFark] 2008-03-16 08:17:10 PM  
And remember his famous quote from a year ago.....
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BobTheFirstJr 2008-03-16 08:23:29 PM  
moops: McCain's Dukakis moment

Being seen with Graham?

 
YesWeHaveNoBannanas 2008-03-16 08:56:01 PM  
Can someone please explain to me, as I don't know, how does it work, that this tool can speend our taxpayer cash on trips into a war zone, obviously for his own political gain???? Hello??? WTF is that???

IMHO, I bet alot of our troops are less than happy to see this POS. Surge on boys, we are gonna be here another 100 years, right?

 
Aarontology [TotalFark] 2008-03-16 09:13:38 PM  
Walker: And remember his famous quote from a year ago.....

Well, wouldn't you feel more secure with 100 soldiers and 5 helicopters watching your ass? I don't care where I was, I would feel better.

He's still a crazy douche though.

 
Jacobin 2008-03-16 09:27:23 PM  
I like that in this country, an old douche running for president can hijack a military plane at taxpayer expense, swoop into Iraq in secret, wander around in the Green Zone and proclaim how after five years, everythings getting better and we need to stay there, occupying a foreign country obviously against their will for another 100 years. Its also odd how he's probably going to win the general election, and after 8 years of Bush, we're gonna have another 4 years at least of McBush. This America. Its a crazy place.

 
TexasIsBetter 2008-03-16 09:48:27 PM  
Jacobin: This America. Its a crazy place.

I'd like to know how any of this has affected/effected? your life. seriously. If not then STFU and GBTW. Or don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 
whidbey [TotalFark] 2008-03-16 09:54:23 PM  
No, more like PUNK'D...by the nationbuilders (=warmongers) that got us in this mess and are making damn sure we stay in this mess.

 
McWattisdead 2008-03-16 09:58:02 PM  
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JQPublic [TotalFark] 2008-03-17 02:45:33 AM  
Jacobin: I like that in this country, an old douche running for president can hijack a military plane at taxpayer expense, swoop into Iraq in secret, wander around in the Green Zone and proclaim how after five years, everythings getting better and we need to stay there, occupying a foreign country obviously against their will for another 100 years. Its also odd how he's probably going to win the general election, and after 8 years of Bush, we're gonna have another 4 years at least of McBush. This America. Its a crazy place.

McCain will only win the election if Hillary is power hungry enough (and she is) to undermine the primaries to date by convincing Florida and Michigan to let her have a mulligan; AND if Democrats are dumb enough (and they are) to let her get away with it.

 
Dangleberry Alliance 2008-03-17 06:02:15 AM  
Maybe some of you farkers or farkettes could help explain something.

What happens if John McCain's alleged Alzheimer's gets worse and he does something nutty, like nominate Steve McQueen as his running mate?

And if he is forced to drop out (after declaring his delegates should vote for Buffy the Vampire Slayer) are the delegates from the states he has won entitled to a free vote?

And in that case, are the delegates for other candidates no longer in the race also able to vote for who they themselves want?

It's just cos, well, it seems quite a lot of the delegates are actually Ron Paul supporters and if given a free run they would vote for Ron Paul.

And since everyone seems to think his supporters are batshiat crazy why would they give a damn what anyone around them screaming about "mandate" or "democracy"?

/just sayin
//commencing flame war in 5,4,3...

 
Failing_Junk [TotalFark] 2008-03-17 09:26:52 AM  
Dangleberry Alliance

My understanding is that if no candidate has enough pledged delegates at the convention then the delegates are "released" and they are free to vote for whoever they want. This would presumably be the case if John McCain went nutters... it was revealed the American people were paying attention.

Ron Paul's delegates could possibly get some more press for the revolution out of the deal, but you have a better chance of finding the winning powerball ticket lying on the ground in South Africa then RP pulling off the nomination.

 
Dangleberry Alliance 2008-03-17 12:35:25 PM  
Thanks Failing Junk,

I guess it would make for interesting theater, if nothing else.

 
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