There is no form of editorial I loathe more than the whiny letter addressed to one person but published for all to see. Write an editorial and publish it, or write a letter and send it to the person to whom it's addressed. Don't try to do both, you tool.

Pocket Ninja: There is no form of editorial I loathe more than the whiny letter addressed to one person but published for all to see. Write an editorial and publish it, or write a letter and send it to the person to whom it's addressed. Don't try to do both, you tool.

irony?

Megain: irony?

Brilliant!

Megain: irony?

Oh come on now. Be at least a little subtle.

I also remember her campaign coming out 2 days later saying, "Nevermind, that was a dumb idea."

Pocket Ninja: Megain: irony?

Oh come on now. Be at least a little subtle.

heh - sorry. i don't do subtle very well in the morning

While it is amusing that one of her pledged delegates left for Obama, I really don't like it. They should be forced to vote for the voters choice.

Pocket Ninja: ... Don't try to do both, you tool.

+1.

On the actual topic: delegates are still, by rule, pledged for one vote, right? That is, their first vote goes to the candidate to which they're bound, and it's only on the second ballot that all hell breaks loose?

DamnYankees: They should be forced to vote for the voters choice.

I agree. If that was the case, Hillary would've been out of the race weeks ago.

Louder And More Dissonant: That is, their first vote goes to the candidate to which they're bound

I think that is the case in some states, but from a national perspective it is not the DNC's rule. A delegate can vote for whomever they want, the understanding is that if you don't vote for who you are pledged to, then you won't be invited back. The state party usually tries to weed out anyone that would not vote for the candidate they're pledged to represent.

I think I must be a bit confused. From TFA it seems as if he is choosing not to attend the convention as a delegate. It does not seem to say that he will go to the convention and vote for Obama even though he is pledged to Hillary. Am I missing something?

Just another meaningless state delegate.

/ nothing to see here, please move along, we're walking - we're walking......

Hillary stands for nothing but "Hillary for President."

oldsbone: Hillary stands for nothing but "Hillary for President."

And vaginas?

Wow...I was expecting something snarky, but that was shockingly well-written

The actual meat of the question is a bit hard to determine. But, my read of it is that he cannot abide the Clinton tactics, so he is either not going to his county caucus (which means a Clinton alternate will be seated instead) or that he'll go (to represent the will of the Clinton supporters in his neighborhood), but won't seek to be a Clinton rep at the state level.

As an Obama supporter, I agree with many of his sentiments, and welcome his change of heart.

As a 3-election precinct captain for the Iowa caucus, this is why you have to choose delegates carefully, as they can and do switch allegiances.

Pocket Ninja: There is no form of editorial I loathe more than the whiny letter addressed to one person but published for all to see. Write an editorial and publish it, or write a letter and send it to the person to whom it's addressed. Don't try to do both, you tool.

There's no hate like self-hate!

Bladel: As a 3-election precinct captain for the Iowa caucus, this is why you have to choose delegates carefully, as they can and do switch allegiances.

But the candidate can de-seat pledged delegates before the vote, right? To get rid of those they aren't entirely sure, after all, losing 1 vote is better than losing 1 and having your opponent gain 1 in return... or am i completely wrong?

Oh, what times those were! And given what success your husband produced, and your impressive record in New York, it wasn't exactly hard for me to support you.

This is pretty much the basis of support for all Clinton supporters. It also seems to be the unofficial campaign slogan.

Zarkin Frood

That has to be the crappest webcomic I've ever seen.

An tSaoi: Zarkin Frood

That has to be the crappest webcomic pile of crapity crap crap I've ever seen.

Sorry, pet peave.

Since 2005, I've written $7,100 worth of checks to the person I considered most qualified to be the junior senator from New York and, later, president of the United States.

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Rumors are spreading that Edwards is planning to endorse Clinton.

Mentat: Rumors are spreading that Edwards is planning to endorse Clinton.

Rumors have been flying from both sides for weeks. Edwards is dithering so much I doubt his endorsement will have much of an impact.

Mentat: Rumors are spreading that Edwards is planning to endorse Clinton.

I don't buy it. Why would he do this? Besides, of course, the fact that he's a huge hypocritical douche bag.

Megain: irony?

Yes,, Irony my shirt!

Calvin Coolidge: Mentat: Rumors are spreading that Edwards is planning to endorse Clinton.

I don't buy it. Why would he do this? Besides, of course, the fact that he's a huge hypocritical douche bag.

It's like the prisoners' dilemma. If he sides with Obama and Clinton wins, she's not going to pick him for VP out of spite. If he chooses Clinton and Obama wins, I could see him still going with him despite his endorsement of her.

/my 2 cents
//adjusted for inflation

Mentat: Rumors are spreading that Edwards is planning to endorse Clinton.

I don't see why he would. He wants to get on the losing bandwagon?

Did you hear? Herpes is spreading on Edward's dorsal fin!

/purplemonkeydishwasher

DamnYankees: Mentat: Rumors are spreading that Edwards is planning to endorse Clinton.

I don't see why he would. He wants to get on the losing bandwagon?

It doesn't make sense to me either, but then it doesn't make sense to me why he's waited so long in the first place.

DamnYankees: I don't see why he would. He wants to get on the losing bandwagon?

It wouldn't be the first time!

Mentat: It doesn't make sense to me either, but then it doesn't make sense to me why he's waited so long in the first place.

Edwards and Richardson both seem so indecisive. Either support your favorite candidate, or rule it out!

Edwards: I don't know what I want anymore.
Richardson: Yeah, neither do I.
Edwards: You want to go to Wendy's?
Richardson: I guess so, only if you're going.
Edwards: No, I still don't know what I want. I'm just asking you what you want, so I can follow you there.
Richardson: Why not. Should we go in your car or two cars?
Edwards: Stop messing with my mind!

DamnYankees: While it is amusing that one of her pledged delegates left for Obama, I really don't like it. They should be forced to vote for the voters choice.

I agree, at least on the first ballot the pledged delegates should vote the way they promised. This editorial writer might be surprised to know this but I think Hillary can replace him if she doesn't think he is loyal enough.

Mentat: DamnYankees: Mentat: Rumors are spreading that Edwards is planning to endorse Clinton.

I don't see why he would. He wants to get on the losing bandwagon?

It doesn't make sense to me either, but then it doesn't make sense to me why he's waited so long in the first place.

I also really don't see what could have happened in the past few weeks to make him more likely to endorse her. I mean, since Super Tuesday, Obama has gained 47 supers and Hillary has lost 7. She has been nothing but negative.

Aside from a quid prop quo, I see no reason to endorse her now.

Well, Clinton needs his delegates, badly. If Edwards ended up being that final nail that put her over the top, he'd be guaranteed just about whatever he wanted. Although she's so far behind I don't think his 26 or however many delegates is enough to help her at this point. Maybe he's waiting until (if) she closes the gap in PA.

It would be to Edwards' advantage to be the person that helped put her over the top as opposed to just adding to her delegate count while she's still behind.

mferris: Well, Clinton needs his delegates, badly. If Edwards ended up being that final nail that put her over the top, he'd be guaranteed just about whatever he wanted. Although she's so far behind I don't think his 26 or however many delegates is enough to help her at this point. Maybe he's waiting until (if) she closes the gap in PA.

His delegates from Iowa are already gone as of Yesterday. Obama gained most of them, Hillary got a few.

mferris: Well, Clinton needs his delegates, badly. If Edwards ended up being that final nail that put her over the top, he'd be guaranteed just about whatever he wanted. Although she's so far behind I don't think his 26 or however many delegates is enough to help her at this point. Maybe he's waiting until (if) she closes the gap in PA.

It would be to Edwards' advantage to be the person that helped put her over the top as opposed to just adding to her delegate count while she's still behind.

Just because he endorses someone doesn't mean his delegates have to cast a vote for that person. At least if I understand the process correctly...

Funny, the Clinton campaign found the Texas process so baffling, but don't seem to have a problem understanding how pledged delegates, super delegates, and such work. Thinking of the mechanics of the convention gives me a headache, but the Texas process made perfect sense to me.

I don't know how it went everywhere else, but at the Scott County Convention that I attended, there wasn't so much movement from the Edwards sign, as a sizable lack of enthusiasm from the Hillary Campaign. Even with her alternates, her delegation was 29 people short, which means they weren't able to vote on their preference.

Calvin Coolidge: Mentat: Rumors are spreading that Edwards is planning to endorse Clinton.

I don't buy it. Why would he do this? Besides, of course, the fact that he's a huge hypocritical douche bag.

It may have something to do with that pimping I heard so much about.

Joliet_Jake: I don't know how it went everywhere else, but at the Scott County Convention that I attended, there wasn't so much movement from the Edwards sign, as a sizable lack of enthusiasm from the Hillary Campaign. Even with her alternates, her delegation was 29 people short, which means they weren't able to vote on their preference.

What state are you in? There are like 10 Scott Counties listed on wikipedia.

Remember how we all got excited by the election rhetoric and media back-stabbing in the last two elections and forgot to discuss policy and ended up electing an idiot for president?

DamnYankees: Joliet_Jake: I don't know how it went everywhere else, but at the Scott County Convention that I attended, there wasn't so much movement from the Edwards sign, as a sizable lack of enthusiasm from the Hillary Campaign. Even with her alternates, her delegation was 29 people short, which means they weren't able to vote on their preference.

What state are you in? There are like 10 Scott Counties listed on wikipedia.

Probably the one that had their county conventions yesterday, Iowa.

mferris: Well, Clinton needs his delegates, badly.

All 6 of them?

Joliet_Jake: DamnYankees: Joliet_Jake: I don't know how it went everywhere else, but at the Scott County Convention that I attended, there wasn't so much movement from the Edwards sign, as a sizable lack of enthusiasm from the Hillary Campaign. Even with her alternates, her delegation was 29 people short, which means they weren't able to vote on their preference.

What state are you in? There are like 10 Scott Counties listed on wikipedia.

Probably the one that had their county conventions yesterday, Iowa.

Sorry, I didn't know *only* Iowa had their conventions. I know they made news because some delegates swtiched, but I assumed other states also had state conventions that just weren't newsworthy.

I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: Since 2005, I've written $7,100 worth of checks to the person I considered most qualified to be the junior senator from New York and, later, president of the United States.


Yep, some qualifications there for being a delegate.

Pretty sure Iowa's were the only ones that were yesterday. Make sure you watch the Regional conventions in April and the State convention in June. It's just going to be more of the same.

Also, for the people thinking the campaigns have some kind of stranglehold on the delegates, I had absolutely no contact with the Obama campaign between the Caucuses and the convention, and the delegates from my caucus were elected by hand vote from the caucus attendees.