FTFA: Then she spotted-on Craigslist, of all places-an ad claiming, "Modern architecture, Great neighborhood, Won't last ... $585,000." She clicked on to an architectural jewel: a two-bedroom spec home designed in the late 1930s by the early modernist master R.M. Schindler, a protégé of Frank Lloyd Wright and one of the most celebrated architects in Los Angeles.

A house by aprotégé of FLW is not the same as a FLW.

GoDeep: A house by aprotégé of FLW is not the same as a FLW.

Yes, it's quite possible it could actually be lived in.

The slideshow contains a FLW house under a million

My ex-neighbors were sold a "Frank Lloyd designed house" for $750,000 5 years ago. They remodeled part of it, and spent another $150,000 (at least). Then they learned that it was not a FLW, but rather designed by a protégé of FLW. You can buy it right now for $375,000.

/Kyosuke: Yes, it's quite possible it could actually be lived in.

True. But not this place. Must have been a good student.

//And many FLW houses need major repairs by now, so I'm not too surprised, kevinatilusa.

Telling most people that a house was "designed by Frank Lloyd Writing" is the equivalent of telling most people that art is "post modern." They know it's supposed to mean something, and probably something impressive, but they don't quite know what. So, usually, they just smile and nod appreciatively and then whisper the piece of information into their partner's ear like it's an important fact to consider before moving on.

I can't find anything about the exterior of that house that is even remotely attractive.

GoDeep [TotalFark] Quote 2008-03-16 08:41:56 AM
FTFA: Then she spotted-on Craigslist, of all places-an ad claiming, "Modern architecture, Great neighborhood, Won't last ... $585,000." She clicked on to an architectural jewel: a two-bedroom spec home designed in the late 1930s by the early modernist master R.M. Schindler, a protégé of Frank Lloyd Wright and one of the most celebrated architects in Los Angeles.

A house by aprotégé of FLW is not the same as a FLW.

Of course you could actually read at least 1/2 the article before turning on the flames.

FTA:
"Even if your knowledge of modern architecture begins and ends with Wright, you are in luck: The website of the Frank Lloyd Wright Building Conservancy lists 16 Wright-designed houses for sale, three of them priced under $1 million."

Av8rLuvr: I can't find anything about the exterior of that house that is even remotely attractive.

Or the interior. It looks like a ski lodge in a 50's snow bunny film.

Meh... Hell I'd rather have a 1300 sq ft ranch on however many acres 1/2 a million would get me.

FLW is so SO old and busted.

Me wants a Frank Gehry house

(watch Sketches Of Frank Gehry....its a docu on him....hes a sweet, funny, neurotic, unpretentious, self-conscious, genius)

MektonZ: Of course you could actually read at least 1/2 the article before turning on the flames.

Of course you could actually read at least 1/2 the thread before turning on the flames.

Not impressed.

"if I had a million dollars, I'd buy you some art-like a Picasso or a Garfunkle"

always 11h17m: What a tragic tale of genius gone wrong.

This has been another episode of "BH&G's Behind the Facade".

IKillBugs: Av8rLuvr: I can't find anything about the exterior of that house that is even remotely attractive.

Or the interior. It looks like a ski lodge in a 50's snow bunny film.

Meh... Hell I'd rather have a 1300 sq ft ranch on however many acres 1/2 a million would get me.

About 1/8 acre, around here.

/most lot sizes are actually listed in square feet
//I hate the DC area
///at least getting off my lawn is a fairly quick process

FLW FTW

Mortgage goes where?

/ oops, wrong Lloyd

I don't know who the fark this guy is, and the comments suggest his houses aren't even livable so should read some information about him, or no?

IKillBugs: Av8rLuvr: I can't find anything about the exterior of that house that is even remotely attractive.

Or the interior. It looks like a ski lodge in a 50's snow bunny film.

Meh... Hell I'd rather have a 1300 sq ft ranch on however many acres 1/2 a million would get me.

I got a 1752 sq ft ranch on 10 acres in Norman OK for 105k. In the Midwest, you can still get reasonable prices on houses-people sell them to move into the McMansions.

FTA - FLW considered the bathroom to be a private area

wow. what a genius. no wonder his designs sell for so much. i guess I shouldn't have put the pool table and bar in my bathroom.

Kyosuke: GoDeep: A house by aprotégé of FLW is not the same as a FLW.

Yes, it's quite possible it could actually be lived in.

And there's a chance it doesn't leak.

Article's almost 6 months old.

FTA

Why so cheap? The location-North Inglewood-is a racially mixed neighborhood

What is this the 1960s?

NeuroticRocker: "if I had a million dollars, I'd buy you some art-like a Picasso or a Garfunkle"

A nice reliant automobile?

/but not a real green dress, that's cruel.

"Architecturally significant 20th century homes often sell for surprisingly low prices, particularly in a softening real estate market. The catch, often, is the location. While it is difficult to track the number of architecturally distinguished homes in B- or C-list locations, or their average prices, buyers who make pedigree a priority can find deals around the country, according to homeowners and real estate brokers."

Blah, blah, blah ... snob, snob, snob ... blah, blah, blah...

B or C list locations? ... in a $500,000 home? - no wonder why the U.S.A. is going down the toilet.

I'm hoping for a huge real-estate market melt-down. Let all these pretentious bastards see their precious, snob-driven housing take a nose-dive in value. People who put such a high value on such petty things like "architecturally distinguished homes," need a serious reality-check.

There are quite a few FLW bungalows around So. Cal., but they are sometimes just 1 bedroom.

A FLW protégé can be famous in their own right. Rudolf Schindler is extremely famous and his work is sought after. If looking in California, I'd suggest Wallace Neff as well.

I watched a show about FLW once, and i didn't think his designs were attractive. Interesting and different, sure, but I didn't want to live in one of his houses.

There are three FLW houses within walking distance of each-other here, I really should take a look sometime.

always 11h17m

Same thing I came to say.
FLW houses are cool but roofs leak like a sieve.

What kind of douchebag do you have to be to care who designed your crapper?

Pribar: FTA

Why so cheap? The location-North Inglewood-is a racially mixed neighborhood

What is this the 1960s?

Every neighborhood in Southern California is racially mixed. If someone bothers to mention race, that means it almost entirely black or Hispanic.

Yeah_Right: I'm hoping for a huge real-estate market melt-down. Let all these pretentious bastards see their precious, snob-driven housing take a nose-dive in value. People who put such a high value on such petty things like "architecturally distinguished homes," need a serious reality-check.

Yeah because a Green and Green craftsman house with built-ins and high grade wood molding and staircases and handwrough lighting and stained glass is exactly the same as a tract house.

Yeah_Right: I'm hoping for a huge real-estate market melt-down.

Hoping for? Our banks are failing, our dollar is toilet paper and our economy has dropped to #2. What more do you want?

Yeah_Right: "Architecturally significant 20th century homes often sell for surprisingly low prices, particularly in a softening real estate market. The catch, often, is the location. While it is difficult to track the number of architecturally distinguished homes in B- or C-list locations, or their average prices, buyers who make pedigree a priority can find deals around the country, according to homeowners and real estate brokers."

Blah, blah, blah ... snob, snob, snob ... blah, blah, blah...

B or C list locations? ... in a $500,000 home? - no wonder why the U.S.A. is going down the toilet.

I'm hoping for a huge real-estate market melt-down. Let all these pretentious bastards see their precious, snob-driven housing take a nose-dive in value. People who put such a high value on such petty things like "architecturally distinguished homes," need a serious reality-check.

I am more offended by a subdivision full of nearly-identical McMansions than I am by someone preserving something of architectural historical significance, whether or not I think FLW was grossly overrated.

http://www.galinsky.com/buildings/boulter/index.htm

What about the designs of Flank Rroyd Light, the famous Japanese achitect?

There's a FLW house in the neighborhood where I grew up, and I knew the kid who lived there, so I got to go inside sometimes and it was probably one of the coolest houses I've ever been in. It was a relatively small single story house, but there were about a million different levels in it. Sigh. I'd live there even with the leaks.

And when drug runners and human smugglers can make hundreds of thousands of dollars a week, our national treasures will soon be drop houses.

/$2000 per illegal, 25 illegals per trip = $50,000
/2 trips a weekend = $100,000
/Frank Lloyd Wright house = 10 weeks or 2 1/2 months

From someone who has lived in L.A. for 18 years .... "racially mixed neighborhood" also means "gang territory". And Inglewood sure as hell is.

If I had the money to get a famous architect to design my house, I would just design my own. Get an architectural and engineering firm for consulting.

Every time somebody mentions Frank Lloyd Wright, I confuse him with Andrew Lloyd Webber.

always 11h17m: now imagine it with a blue plastic tarp over the leaky roof. That's FLW in a nutshell.



I have heard that many of his houses are in disrepair and are not aging well at all.

/bummer

always 11h17m: just look at this:



now imagine it with a blue plastic tarp over the leaky roof. That's FLW in a nutshell.

/mods, del prev thx

like this?:



or this:



they had just spent $6 million to keep the 'wing's from sagging and falling off. I think at their worst the sag was something like 3 feet.

On a side note, I recently became very interested in the Iroquois Theater Fire (Chicago, late 1903). After digging awhile, I found an online book preview of FLW's son's autobiography. I just now tried to find that link to no avail; sorry!

Anyway, FLW's grade school-aged son and several other woman & children relatives of his were actually there for the ill-fated Christmas vacation matinee of Mr. Bluebeard and escaped with their lives (about 600 did not). According to the book, FLW himself was waiting outside the theater for them.

A FLW house is aiming too low. I'm holding out until Cheyenne Mountain goes on the market. Bet I could make an awesome home theater in that place.

/although I could do without the aliens
//might need to win the power ball a few times though

aiiee: always 11h17m: just look at this:



now imagine it with a blue plastic tarp over the leaky roof. That's FLW in a nutshell.

/mods, del prev thx

like this?:



or this:



they had just spent $6 million to keep the 'wing's from sagging and falling off. I think at their worst the sag was something like 3 feet.


That's unfortunate.

FLW designed this impressive and cool Greek Orthodox Church, which is a few miles from me (Milwaukee, WI area):

Yeah_Right: Blah, blah, blah ... snob, snob, snob ... blah, blah, blah...

B or C list locations? ... in a $500,000 home? - no wonder why the U.S.A. is going down the toilet.

I'm hoping for a huge real-estate market melt-down. Let all these pretentious bastards see their precious, snob-driven housing take a nose-dive in value. People who put such a high value on such petty things like "architecturally distinguished homes," need a serious reality-check.

Wow, you're all full of envy today, gotta lighten up on that.

Mentat Yeah_Right: I'm hoping for a huge real-estate market melt-down.

Hoping for? Our banks are failing, our dollar is toilet paper and our economy has dropped to #2. What more do you want?

Over the last 25 years or so ... real estate changed from being a long-term investment, into a short-term one. Where greedy sellers, RE brokers, bankers, investors, and even to the degree that buyers bought into the idea of a never-ending value increase in homes - have all led to extremely way over-inflated housing values.

What I want is a serious reality-check in our whole economic structure. While America over the last 100+ years ago, has become more and more a consumer society - it has really gone overboard in the last 30-40 years. People are no longer happy with a nice house - they want a McMansion. Gone is the family station wagon - replaced by ridiculously over-gadgeted SUVs. Who the hell needs a 4WD SUV in the middle of LA? Planning on having to 4-wheel it to Starbucks after that 1/4" of snow that fell this morning?

When prices of homes have fallen back to and average of $50-575 per square foot ... then they'll be more in line with what housing is really worth.

BTW --- all those people who produce/star in those 'flip this house' shows ... should DIAF. More idiots just adding to the housing greed debacle.

Damn, I have -always- loved Wright's work.

My dream is to one day have a home designed in that style.

When prices of homes have fallen back to and average of $50-575 $50-$75 per square foot ... then they'll be more in line with what housing is really worth.

FTFM