And these idiots are getting paid. They should be sweeping streets and picking up garbage, and be useful for one day in their lives.

HELTER SKEL....never mind

By the way, Manson was never convicted of killing anyone. He's in on conspiracy.

Gotta dig something...

Charlie don't surf, but he has been known to bust a move.

Get funky Chuck!


/he's a little tea pot, short and stout...

Dumbass tag? More like interesting, or even hero tag.

you're the dumbass, subby. several more murders were talked about by several of them.

Odenkirk as Manson/Lassie. You know the sketch. Hilarious.


/unfortunately nothing is obscure
//Ben Stiller Show FTW!!!

I'm not seeing a correlation between the disappearance of Fossett and the disappearance of Hoffa. Not at all.

When I get to the bottom I go back to the top of the slide
Then I stop and I turn around and go for a ride
'Til I get to the bottom and I see you again

RobertBruce: you're the dumbass, subby. several more murders were talked about by several of them.

But what's the point after all this time? Manson's in jail for life. If they find some bones, what are they going to do, give him another life term? And for all intents the death penalty in California has been outlawed, so its not like they'd execute him. Hell, even if they could execute him, he'd die of old age before the appeals process would be over.

Leave Charles Manson alone.

+ + =

/ it's all his vault

Dennis Miller on Charles Manson and his new carved facial feature:

"Charlie Manson showed up at his latest parole hearing sporting a freshly-carved swastika in his forehead. What better way to show you've pulled that personal thing together."

ShawnDoc: RobertBruce: you're the dumbass, subby. several more murders were talked about by several of them.

But what's the point after all this time? Manson's in jail for life. If they find some bones, what are they going to do, give him another life term? And for all intents the death penalty in California has been outlawed, so its not like they'd execute him. Hell, even if they could execute him, he'd die of old age before the appeals process would be over.

you need to read TFA... he/his followers have had yearly parole hearings... that means he's gonna get out soon

Next step, the ad hoc investigators urge: Dig.

That is one of the weirdest sentences I've ever read.

Picture of a c. 1986 Manson anyone? he really let himself go...met a guy once who shared a cell with Charlie, only said that he was "demon-possessed", and that he got tattooed by him.

/2 cents..

joel383: you need to read TFA... he/his followers have had yearly parole hearings... that means he's gonna get out soon

You need to think about that. He's not getting out. No parole board in their drunkest fantasy would let him fly the coop. He eitger comes out feet first or digs a great tunnel.

Manson is not a serial killer. He only actually killed one man by his own hand.

However, he used his influence to incite his followers to kill in his name.

So it doesn't make any sense really to look for "his" murder victims. But hey, whatever.

nashBridges: I could give less of a shiat about Manson, but if there are dead missing people there then someone will benefit by finding them.

That's an interesting proposition. A few years ago everyone pretty much thought Elizabeth Smart was dead. Instead, she was found after she spent weeks and weeks of being raped.

How long should missing people be searched for?

im drunk off my ass.

RoyBatty: Dumbass tag? More like interesting, or even hero tag.

Why? I was not quite four years old when the Tate-LaBianca murders went down; that was nearly 40 years ago. The ranch property was destroyed in a 1970 fire and although currently owned by the state has probably been picked over by ghouls/curiosity seekers for the last 40+ years.

Manson did murder (and probably by his own hand) several of his followers and some bodies were not found; but most of those were accounted for and believed to be either in Indio or buried in Mojave and have long since been coyote bait.

And to joel383 and any other innocents who think Charlie might be getting out any time soon: First of all, California only grants parole hearings about every 5 years or so; Manson has been denied at every single one of his hearings so far and mostly because he sits down in front of the board and acts so completely batshiat insane (usually threatening to kill most of the residents of CA, beginning with the board) that denial is usually just a quick rubber stamp. Manson will only be leaving horizontally.

The girls and Tex Watson have all repeatedly been denied parole, and only Leslie Van Houten, who only participated in the LaBianca killings, has ever even come close to possibly being granted parole maybe sometime. Tex Watson, doing time in the great state of Texas, will probably be buried inside the prison walls.

joel383: ShawnDoc: RobertBruce: you're the dumbass, subby. several more murders were talked about by several of them.

But what's the point after all this time? Manson's in jail for life. If they find some bones, what are they going to do, give him another life term? And for all intents the death penalty in California has been outlawed, so its not like they'd execute him. Hell, even if they could execute him, he'd die of old age before the appeals process would be over.

you need to read TFA... he/his followers have had yearly parole hearings... that means he's gonna get out soon

Nope, Charlie will never get out. He's repeatedly stated he will kill again if he's ever released.

lasercannon
Good use of one of the best new cliches. Thanks for the LOL.

carmody: By the way, Manson was never convicted of killing anyone. He's in on conspiracy.

Actually, Manson was convicted of murder & conspiracy to commit murder in the Tate-LaBianca cases. Also, In a 1971 trial that took place after his Tate-LaBianca convictions, Manson was found guilty of the murders of Gary Hinman and Donald "Shorty" Shea and was given a life sentence.

I've camped at the Barker ranch a few times. Last summer on a moonless night, the milky way was so bright that it lit the desert landscape like a quarter moon.

With a head full of acid it would have seemed a veritable wonderland. It's easy to see why old Charlie and his family chose that spot to live in...

Story deserves the HERO tag. Subtard and green-lighter
deserve gigantic hemorrhoids. Fossett's sipping Pina Colada's on
an island somewhere and Hoffa's entombed under 12 feet of
concrete at the base of a skyscraper.

Fark Charlie, his hippy cult of murdering lunatics, and the
freakazoid douchebags that support them. It's been suspected for
almost 40 years that there are many more bodies killed at the
hands of Charlie and his reprobates hidden and buried at and near
the ranch. But not until now have they had the resources and
technology to do a comprehensive search.

They should check the old abandoned gold mines and the caved in
ones too.

living life is farking insane. farking insane.

nashBridges: Sun God: How long should missing people be searched for?

Until they are found, one way or another. I'm not saying we should waste resources to find them, but if there is a real possibility, as there is in this case, do it.

That is a very fair and well-reasoned answer. Unfortunately, it's often not what happens.

Charlie killed the 60's.

nashBridges: Hell, I've got a missing cat I didn't really like right now and I'd like to know where the fark she went

Oh, and I found your cat. She's taken me for at least 3 cans of tuna. Very dislikeable creature. She likes to watch the Big Wheel spin on The Price is Right.

Montex: So it doesn't make any sense really to look for "his" murder victims. But hey, whatever.

Right, just like it makes no sense to look for Holocaust victims, victims of Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge, the people killed by Stalin's regime, the people killed by Mao Zedong's regime, the folks killed under orders of President Taylor. The Nuremberg Trials set a very interesting, and important precedent. A person who orders someone to kill someone is just as culpable for the crime committed as the person who actually committed the crime is. This is why Manson was convicted, he was just as guilty of murdering those people as the people who actually did it. I'm not quite sure who the dumbass tag is for on this post, but hopefully it's not for the people who are trying to close some cases on missing people and give their families some peace of mind.

Glenechocreek
Charlie killed the 60's.

Wrong. It's been well documented that the media killed the 60's.

After reading TFA, it sounds like some independent folk brought a good idea to some qualified folk who wanted to try out some new gear that could find really old(but still decomposing) bodies, in a place where there was a good chance to find them. Dumbass how? It's a great marketing ploy to get funding for a crew led by a prospector. It got news, new gear, and a popular case sure to bring discussion. If anyone were questioned about the true legitimacy, they were testing new gear.

Excited by this story

Charlie's never getting out. He doesn't want to be out. Corrections people talk all the time about how he's a model prisoner, then he spouts off something or does something right around the time of his parole that will get any consideration denied.

Remember, all through his trial, he was alright with going to prison, but when it looked like he was going to get the death penalty, that was when he got violent.

All he wanted was to go back to prison, where he didn't have to worry about working or where he was going to sleep or what he was going to eat, and not get out. Pretty scary reason to kill a dozen people.

JerkyMeat: Glenechocreek
Charlie killed the 60's.

Wrong. It's been well documented that the media killed the 60's.

60s

nashBridges: ShawnDoc: But what's the point after all this time?

At the very least, it provides closure to someone. If there are more bodies on that farm, they meant something to someone.

I could give less of a shiat about Manson, but if there are dead missing people there then someone will benefit by finding them.

I agree that the families and friends need closure, but after all this time, even if they do find more remains, how will they possibly ID them? No dna data bases back then, and I doubt that hippies in the late 60's went to their dentists regularly, and if they did, I don't think dental records would have survived.

The article was kind of interesting, but who the fark cares about Manson? I hope he dies a painful death in his prison cell. No way will he or any of the other family members ever get out.

I don't know if this is based on fact or not, but I remember reading a long time ago about the Beach Boys and the Manson Family. Apparently, the Beach Boys all got syphilis from farking Manson family members.

farkplug
You may be proud of being teh gay, but I don't care really.

nashBridges: Sun God: Oh, and I found your cat. She's taken me for at least 3 cans of tuna. Very dislikeable creature. She likes to watch the Big Wheel spin on The Price is Right.

Cute. I suspect she's dead. I'd like to know, however.

And you don't have my cat, because in addition to being outside without TV, she'd rather die than watch "The Price is Right". Cats hate Bob Barker.

I found your cat. You'd be interested to know that it went well with the wild rice and bacon-wrapped asparagus.

nashBridges: ShawnDoc: But what's the point after all this time?

At the very least, it provides closure to someone. If there are more bodies on that farm, they meant something to someone.

I could give less of a shiat about Manson, but if there are dead missing people there then someone will benefit by finding them.

This x infinity.

It's not about punishing Manson anymore. It's about solving old murders.

I agree that the families and friends need closure, but after all this time, even if they do find more remains, how will they possibly ID them? No dna data bases back then, and I doubt that hippies in the late 60's went to their dentists regularly, and if they did, I don't think dental records would have survived.

They don't need any of that, all they need is the remains and a family member of the suspected dead person. If they find bodies they will determine gender, age, race, height, hair color, etc... They will then look at runaways and other missing persons that were likely to be in the area at the time for a match. They will then look for family members who will give a DNA sample to match. They have IDd quite a few people this way and it provides closure for the families.

Vern:
Can you give a clue for the clueless? People ordered killed by President (Zachary?) Taylor? I'm lost. Help

Old joke. I think it's from a movie, but I can't find it:

Q. What's the quickest way to get a swimming pool dug out in your back yard?

A. Call the FBI and tell them Jimmy Hoffa is buried there.

eh, why not? imagine how horrible having someone missing for 40 years must be. did they run away? start a new life in mexico? were they murdered or kidnapped? after all this time, could they be out there somewhere?

i think if that happened to me i would never stop looking, both consciously and subconsciously. so if this search reveals the fate of someone's relatives or friends it could really bring closure to those people, even after all this time.

also, it is a fascinating story, and everyone wants to reveal a new dimension of an interesting story. i can see how there are multiple motivations to search for suspected victims.

asstronaut
Can you give a clue for the clueless? People ordered killed by President (Zachary?) Taylor? I'm lost. Help

President Charles Taylor of Liberia

"I've never killed anyone. I don't need to kill anyone. I think it. I have it here."

Beauf:
I had wondered about that, but it seems an odd way to mention him.

Manson could NEVER live in "society", since he was born and brought up in the prison system it's all he really knew and it is his "home"

That's the real reason he goes nuts when the possibility of a parole hearing is near.

I will say that I don't think that the girls should be in jail anymore, they were truly under the "influence" of him at the time.
I say it is time for them to be released, since they have actually changed/grown up since they were put in jail.

As for the bodies, they KNEW there was a possibility of there being more there so why did it take them this long to even bother to go out and search.
If they find anyone there really is nothing they can do unless they find fingerprints/dna on the clothes.

Jamieboy I agree that the families and friends need closure, but after all this time, even if they do find more remains, how will they possibly ID them? No dna data bases back then, and I doubt that hippies in the late 60's went to their dentists regularly, and if they did, I don't think dental records would have survived.

The "hippies" back in then weren't born and raised outside of society. Almost all grew up in normal homes with normal families, then decided to take a couple of years off to protest the Vietnam War and have some fun. Dental records probably still exist, especially if the parents reported their son or daughter was missing.

farkplug: JerkyMeat: Glenechocreek
Charlie killed the 60's.

Wrong. It's been well documented that the media killed the 60's.

60s

Actually, as this happened in late '69, I think the '70s killed the '60s...