If only it wasn't filled to capacity with smelly, loud, pushy, obnoxious, guitar playing, cup-rattling, snake wearing sociopaths.

If only there were an underground train like transit system that workers could take from outlying areas Staten Island.

/FTFY

Nobody outside of New York City gives a squishy fark.

they should use the subway!

Pave over the big green empty thing in the middle to serve as parking for the whole borough. Problem solved.

Norad: Nobody outside of New York City gives a squishy fark.

Is that where Manhattan is?

That wasn't a very fair comparison. Smelly, loud, pushy, obnoxious, guitar playing, cup-rattling, snake wearing sociopaths have feelings too you know.

mikemoto: If only there were an underground train like transit system that workers could take from outlying areas Staten Island.

/FTFY

Or a boat. A free boat.

Hey, look at me, I'm some hick who thinks any randomly picked block in Manhattan isn't worth more than my entire worthless flyover state

If only there were an underground transit system that didn't get its fare raised every couple years while cutting service at that exact same time...

MTA..."Unavoidably" Delayed!

Wrong_Intentions: Pave over the big green empty thing in the middle to serve as parking for the whole borough. Problem solved.

Good idea. That area seems very 'central' to most other things. They could call it the "Central Park."

mikemoto: If only there were an underground train-like transit system that workers could take from outlying areas Staten Island.

If only there were a boat of some kind that could take Staten Islanders to Lower Manhattan in far less time than it takes to drive over the Verrazano, up the Gowanus and through the BB tunnel.

If only that HAWT chick Raquel from 8th grade would somehow google "tuna fingers" and find me here and somehow know it was me.

*sigh*

I am so tired of that cliche.

If only Plessy v. Fergusson applied to NYC subways...

New York City > All the square states combined

Oh wow, alpha just got racial on our asses.

Quadraton: That wasn't a very fair comparison. Smelly, loud, pushy, obnoxious, guitar playing, cup-rattling, snake wearing sociopaths have feelings too you know.

I've been to NYC about a dozen times. Every time I went, clients arranged for my transportation, and I never once rode the subway. The last time I went, a buddy and I decided to go to B&H to do some shopping, so we took the subway from his apartment in Washington Heights to Penn Station. I figured it was all exaggerated, and that it would be like taking the bus in any other urban area. Oh. My. God.

There was a bum that threw up across from us, and the two people sitting next to me started making out - and I shiat you not, he started fingering her... Right next to me. Now, that could be kind of hot if they would have been, well, hot... But they weren't. They smelled really, really bad.

organizm: New York City > All the square states combined

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you've never wandered too far from home, have you Sparky?

FilmBELOH20: and the two people sitting next to me started making out - and I shiat you not, he started fingering her... Right next to me.

At least he didn't get goo in your hair.

I hope the gas prices bankrupt the whole city so that Ernest Borgnine can run around in a taxi throwing Molotov Cocktails into alleys while Harry Dean Stanton yells "GODDAMN REDSKINS!" atop the World Trade Center followed by Donald Pleasence playing a swing tape instead of the nuclear babble tape which Kurt Russell rips up thereby establishing the destruction of mankind.

THAT'S the New York I carry around with me, goddammit.

deltabourne: Hey, look at me, I'm some hick who thinks any randomly picked block in Manhattan isn't worth more than my entire worthless flyover state

Aren't WE important.

Wrong_Intentions: Pave over the big green empty thing in the middle to serve as parking for the whole borough. Problem solved.

Central Parking?

I'll take the train to go downtown Chicago, or if I drive I usually park in a big garage where I know I'll have a spot, then take the subway or a cab to wherever I'm going. I hate trying to park. I feel bad for the guy in the article who is just trying to pick his wife up from work, but whaddya gonna do? There's only so much room. They should build a huge parking barge for lower Manhattan. People could park their car on the boat during the week, and on the weekends it could be used to haul trash to New Jersey.

Nice one, subby. People have to stop being asshats and start taking public transportation instead of driving their cars into Manhattan.

/congestion pricing FTW

FilmBELOH20:

There was a bum that threw up across from us, and the two people sitting next to me started making out - and I shiat you not, he started fingering her... Right next to me. Now, that could be kind of hot if they would have been, well, hot... But they weren't. They smelled really, really bad.

I've lived in NYC for 16 years, and I've never witnessed anything even remotely like that. Not saying the subway is 100% free of weird happenings, but... I call shenanigans.

I work in Tribeca. Yes, there's nowhere to park. Oh well, I take the train or ride my bike from Brooklyn (6 miles away). It's frickin' easy, and takes a half-hour either way.


Deal with it, Mr. "I've gotta circle the block and wait to pick up my wife."

FilmBELOH20: Quadraton: That wasn't a very fair comparison. Smelly, loud, pushy, obnoxious, guitar playing, cup-rattling, snake wearing sociopaths have feelings too you know.

I've been to NYC about a dozen times. Every time I went, clients arranged for my transportation, and I never once rode the subway. The last time I went, a buddy and I decided to go to B&H to do some shopping, so we took the subway from his apartment in Washington Heights to Penn Station. I figured it was all exaggerated, and that it would be like taking the bus in any other urban area. Oh. My. God.

There was a bum that threw up across from us, and the two people sitting next to me started making out - and I shiat you not, he started fingering her... Right next to me. Now, that could be kind of hot if they would have been, well, hot... But they weren't. They smelled really, really bad.

I work at B&H, so I got a kick out of that reply.

Problem: There are not enough parking spaces available for cars without placards.

Solution: Reduce the number of placards, thereby increasing the number of cars competing for the same insufficient number of parking spaces.


What a brilliant plan.

FilmBELOH20,

I'm from Jersey--been going into the city my whole life--and now live in the Heights, and I have NEVER seen what you're describing. Sure, there's lots of wacky shiat that goes on under NYC, and I don't doubt your claims. I would have to say that homeless vomit and public fingerbanging are not the norm.

/The smell, though? Oh, yeah

do they not build parking garages on staten island??

or telecommuting might be a good thing for the employers there.

that or perhaps charging a daily fee to bring a vehicle onto the island, but only if it comes with guaranteed parking spot, so if there's x number of spots, x+1 gets to ride the bus

Gordon Bennett: Solution: Reduce the number of placards, thereby increasing the number of cars competing for the same insufficient number of parking spaces.

What a brilliant plan.

Actually, the placards are issued to city agency workers who could easily commute via public transit, but don't.

Public transit is a more appealing option than searching the borough for a parking space, in this case.

In the last two months I rode two distinct and dialectically opposed subway systems. In Washington DC there were short waits in nice, clean, and well lit terminals. I was able to cheaply and quickly explore one of the most crime ridden cities in the country.

Then I went to New York. The routes were confusing, the trains smelled like piss, the people were rude, and it was less easy to just explore the area. I can see why so many people in New York bike.

rkgoboom: In the last two months I rode two distinct and dialectically opposed subway systems. In Washington DC there were short waits in nice, clean, and well lit terminals. I was able to cheaply and quickly explore one of the most crime ridden cities in the country.

The metro is very nice, but the lack of quality coverage and ridiculous prices always turn me off. I'm in the boston area now...and I'd gladly take the T over the Metro any day. It's a little less clean, but reliable service and great coverage for significantly less money.

Jed E3: I'll take the train to go downtown Chicago, or if I drive I usually park in a big garage where I know I'll have a spot, then take the subway or a cab to wherever I'm going. I hate trying to park. I feel bad for the guy in the article who is just trying to pick his wife up from work, but whaddya gonna do? There's only so much room. They should build a huge parking barge for lower Manhattan. People could park their car on the boat during the week, and on the weekends it could be used to haul trash to New Jersey.

And then bring it back on monday, right?

Gwinny: FilmBELOH20:

There was a bum that threw up across from us, and the two people sitting next to me started making out - and I shiat you not, he started fingering her... Right next to me. Now, that could be kind of hot if they would have been, well, hot... But they weren't. They smelled really, really bad.

I've lived in NYC for 16 years, and I've never witnessed anything even remotely like that. Not saying the subway is 100% free of weird happenings, but... I call shenanigans.

Well it depends where it happened. If it was up near Washington Heights on the C train, then I could believe it. But throughout high school I rode the subway up in the Bronx, and now I work in Manhattan and take the train every day, and the worse I saw was some crazy lady peeing into a grate. Occasionally I've witnessed crazy people spouting nonsense, minor arguments, generally filthy people, and possibly one dead guy, but never anything like what Film described.

If only there was something you could print out on your ink jet printer and then laminate and place on your dashboard that would allow you park in those spots the general public is not allowed to park in.

Froman: Gwinny: FilmBELOH20:

There was a bum that threw up across from us, and the two people sitting next to me started making out - and I shiat you not, he started fingering her... Right next to me. Now, that could be kind of hot if they would have been, well, hot... But they weren't. They smelled really, really bad.

I've lived in NYC for 16 years, and I've never witnessed anything even remotely like that. Not saying the subway is 100% free of weird happenings, but... I call shenanigans.

Well it depends where it happened. If it was up near Washington Heights on the C train, then I could believe it. But throughout high school I rode the subway up in the Bronx, and now I work in Manhattan and take the train every day, and the worse I saw was some crazy lady peeing into a grate. Occasionally I've witnessed crazy people spouting nonsense, minor arguments, generally filthy people, and possibly one dead guy, but never anything like what Film described.

stories like this, and you folks want to live there?

Open_Mouth_Inert_Foot: stories like this, and you folks want to live there?

This. city. is. AMAZING.

I live in lower Manhattan and rarely park more than 2 blocks from my home.

My parking space in midtown? That costs as much as a mortgage in a flyover state.

Gwinny: FilmBELOH20:

There was a bum that threw up across from us, and the two people sitting next to me started making out - and I shiat you not, he started fingering her... Right next to me. Now, that could be kind of hot if they would have been, well, hot... But they weren't. They smelled really, really bad.

I've lived in NYC for 16 years, and I've never witnessed anything even remotely like that. Not saying the subway is 100% free of weird happenings, but... I call shenanigans.

40 years without such things. (other than the puking, but it is usually only New Years and done by tourists)

As I said: shenanigans.

And I wouldn't live anywhere else.

Then I went to New York. The routes were confusing, the trains smelled like piss, the people were rude

New Yorkers will tell you: "everyone here is so nice since 9/11." They are all Al Qaeda sympathizers.

OTH, I read many newspaper articles that said, "Las Vegas is really family oriented and they police against prostitutes firmly." Then I went there ...

FilmBELOH20

As a New Yorker, I'm getting a kick out of your reply.

/"I yield for tourists"

tuna fingers: If only that HAWT chick Raquel from 8th grade would somehow google "tuna fingers" and find me here and somehow know it was me.

*sigh*

I don't get it. Are you in the right thread?

Open_Mouth_Inert_Foot: stories like this, and you folks want to live there?

wwwavenger: This. city. is. AMAZING.

THIS.

I've spent 2 weeks in New York and I wish it were longer. Never witnessed anything like what Film described on the subway, and we rode it all around the city at all hours of night.

We were a little scared when we got off at 3am at Rockaway Blvd in Queens to walk back to our hotel near JFK though....

I'd live there if I could.

Oh, and I don't get the reputation of "rude New Yorkers." I asked plenty of people for directions there. While they weren't in a rush to exchange pleasantries, they either told me up front that they didn't know, or they gave me concise and accurate directions. That reputation is a crock of shiat.

As a general rule, New Yorkers are rude to the stupid tourists: those who stand stock-still in the middle of the sidewalk, pack en masse into the same subway car, etc. If those tourists can't understand that people actually have to get to work, run errands - in short, live their lives - then they deserve the appropriate response for being clueless fools.

That being said, New Yorkers are always willing to give out directions advice on where to go if asked. I've seen it (and done it) 1000 times.

wwwavenger: This. city. is. AMAZING for money-wasting suckers.

Wiped that up for you.