And the moral of the story is....

... nope, got nothing.

RedDyeNumber4: And the moral of the story is....


If ya can't asplode em ...join em!

RedDyeNumber4

And the moral of the story is....


Mission accomplished because the people that USA stated were the enemy are now the allies.

Mission accomplish because al-Qaeda is a strong presence in Iraq.

"My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators."

If the Democrats win, this will suddenly become a war of Peace and Justice, like Bosnia.

DarthBrooks: If the Democrats win, this will suddenly become a war of Peace and Justice, like Bosnia.

How many U.S. KIA's in that conflict?

Let me help you... ZERO.

See the difference?

RedDyeNumber4: And the moral of the story is....

... nope, got nothing.

That even our allies wants us dead.

FTA: "We promise God that the dog Bush will not enjoy peace of mind and that his army will not have a good life as long as our hearts are beating."

Before the Dawn: The guy they interviewed is an idiot and he's lucky we let him live.

And if some nation invaded the US, i'm sure you'll be one of the chickenhawks that will be fellatioing the invaders.

This is how we do it. By what ever means, he is no longer fighting us.

Small Wars (new window)

"The brave and bold persist even against fortune; the timid and cowardly rush to despair through fear alone." - Tacitus

How many U.S. KIA's in that conflict?

Let me help you... ZERO.

See the difference?

That tends to happen when you fight from 50,000 feet.

The enemy of my enemy . . .

Wolverines.

Does it mention where he gets paid more than an average American worker to not kill American soldiers?

/drta

“When American soldiers turn up I feel very sad for myself, my country and the fact that I have to sit down and deal with them. I feel like wolves are eating my flesh during the meeting,” he said.

moralpanic
That even our allies wants us dead.

FTA: "We promise God that the dog Bush will not enjoy peace of mind and that his army will not have a good life as long as our hearts are beating."


FTA: that quote was attributed to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi April 29, 2005.

F-A-I-L.

Seriously misleading headline.

Surprise!

loser_death_spiral:

FTA: that quote was attributed to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi April 29, 2005.

F-A-I-L.

Yet the quote before it was from the subject's mouth, and carried a similar sentiment. Not quite the F-A-I-L you indicate.

Double surprise!

Honestly, nobody can pick up the moral of this feel good piece of journalism?

"During this fight, I've seen a lot of changing, in the way you feel about me, and in the way I feel about you. In here, there were two guys killing each other, but I guess that's better than twenty million. I guess what I'm trying to say, is that if I can change, and you can change, everybody can change!"

I'm a bad tagger.

/shiat.

LargeCanine
This is how we do it. By what ever means, he is no longer fighting us.

...currently

See, pro-Hussein anti-occupation resistence fighter groups hate al-Qaeda and hate terrorism, which shows how wrong we were about Hussein's regime. It also makes their "operations" against U.S. military targets and all the killed or injured soldiers totally justified, because, they hate al-Qaeda and just have the interest of their people in mind and we imposed freedom on them.

/What a load of bs.

Short form:
He had to choose between siding with Al Qaeda or the US.
He sided with the US, because to him and others like him, it was the lesser of two evils.

Not sure how we can spin this story as a "victory" for either the pro or anti war bunch... it is just sad. Wonder what percentage of the population in Iraq share his views?

2wolves: DarthBrooks: chu2dogg: How many U.S. KIA's in that conflict?

Let me help you... ZERO.

See the difference?

That tends to happen when you fight from 50,000 feet.

Not to nitpick, but there were casualties in Bosnia. I lost a few friends and comrades in that muddy shiathole.

I realize that they were all related to going off the side of a mountain or crossing into territory that was certified 'mine-free' (50% mine contamination in that country) or being on the wrong side of a riot or a weapon seizure. Nothing dramatic, but soldiers did die over there.

Sorry about the threadjack. Just brought back some memories.

/RIP Floyd.

19 Kilo

I agree there were too many deaths. I tried to use precise nomenclature.

Littledogg: Honestly, nobody can pick up the moral of this feel good piece of journalism?

"During this fight, I've seen a lot of changing, in the way you feel about me, and in the way I feel about you. In here, there were two guys killing each other, but I guess that's better than twenty million. I guess what I'm trying to say, is that if I can change, and you can change, everybody can change!"

Yeah, but Rocky won.

So long as the USA keeps paying him, he will be their friend. As soon as everyone in Congress realizes that they will lose their plutocratic position because the money hole in Iraq is tanking the economy, they will quit paying him. Then he will once again be the enemy of the USA. If his Iraqi friends don't take him out and drill holes in his head with a screwgun for being in the wrong tribe first.

loser_death_spiral: moralpanic
That even our allies wants us dead.

FTA: "We promise God that the dog Bush will not enjoy peace of mind and that his army will not have a good life as long as our hearts are beating."


FTA: that quote was attributed to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi April 29, 2005.

F-A-I-L.

Um,did you even read the article? If you want to keep your rainbow colored world, then keep on staying ignorant.

Nothing makes sense. Nothing! Finding meaning in the Iraq War is like trying to see a Magic Eye picture!

and hate terrorism,

I think its more the case of they are tired of living in a war zone. Every time they set off a bomb, it also damages the roads, people's homes, people's kids, etc.. THEN, when we fight back, even more is damaged.

moralpanic, That quote is just thrown into the article at the end. There is nothing added to it, or about it. It gives the impression that the guy from the interview said it. While it may fit his attitude, it is also a tad misleading.

"We promise God that the dog Bush will not enjoy peace of mind and that his army will not have a good life as long as our hearts are beating."


FUKC this PIECE OF SHIIT. I would have have loved to throw his ass out of that helo

TexasIsBetter Quote 2008-03-15 02:35:14 PM
"We promise God that the dog Bush will not enjoy peace of mind and that his army will not have a good life as long as our hearts are beating."


FUKC this PIECE OF SHIIT. I would have have loved to throw his ass out of that helo

Funny a lot of people feel the same way about Texans. You know who else was a self proclaimed Texan?

Ahh I didn't mean that really I guess. Just reading that sent a hot wave of anger through me. I literally punched the desk. I gotta stop letting shiat like this get to me. Someone else is there now in my place to search out and kill these sick fukcs... just gotta keep reminding myself of that.

pvd021: Funny a lot of people feel the same way about Texans. You know who else was a self proclaimed Texan?

Go jerk yourself off you parasite. If you had seen the shiat these people had done to their own people you would be singing a different tune. so STFU and go back to eating and drinking your fill, which you totally earned right? People like this asshole and his freinds blew up a water tower to their neighboring town because of God knows what. This guy should be executed, but thats just my opinion which doesn't count for shiat.

So have a good day mr. eater-shiatter. Thats all people like you are good for, eating in the United States and shiating in the United States, nothing else.

"I felt as though my freedom was being snatched from me."

Guess he didn't get the memo.

2wolves: DarthBrooks: If the Democrats win, this will suddenly become a war of Peace and Justice, like Bosnia.

How many U.S. KIA's in that conflict?

Let me help you... ZERO.

See the difference?

Sounds like 2wolves doesn't know the difference between Bosnia and Kosovo.

TexasIsBetter Quote 2008-03-15 02:49:45 PM
pvd021: Funny a lot of people feel the same way about Texans. You know who else was a self proclaimed Texan?


Go jerk yourself off you parasite. If you had seen the shiat these people had done to their own people you would be singing a different tune. so STFU and go back to eating and drinking your fill, which you totally earned right? People like this asshole and his freinds blew up a water tower to their neighboring town because of God knows what. This guy should be executed, but thats just my opinion which doesn't count for shiat.

So have a good day mr. eater-shiatter. Thats all people like you are good for, eating in the United States and shiating in the United States, nothing else.

That's funny. I'm glad your lack of anger management ability is put to good use in the US military. If actually had any reading ability, you would have realized that he never targeted any of his fellow Iraqi citizens. But you obviously lack the reading ability of a 12 year old to distinguish this, or you're too ignorant and think that all brown people are the same. In either case, I'll continuing working and consuming goods and paying taxes, taxes which I assume pays your military paycheck. But yes I'm a crappy American, I can actually tell the difference between an Iraqi Patriot fighting for his homeland and an Afghani terrorist trying to destroy America.

Then again, I can also show you the difference between Iraq and Afghanistan, which your glorious president evidently is unable to do so.

I also love your sense of compassion for demanding this guy be executed, but seeing as how you're from Texas, I'm not very suprised. Good job, fighting the stereotypes of Texans.

Last but not least, I'd like to thank you for somehow protecting America, my freedom, and my American way of life as soon as you can tell me how destroying another nation (which was never a threat), and now attempting to rebuild it, somehow constitutes protecting my freedom.

And I know you fight them over there, so you don't have to fight them in America, but over there is Afghanistan (which you're losing btw), so you're not really there.

And your insults, they seem pretty juvenile and low level in intelligence. Tell me, are you in the Marines? Infantry? That's where they send all the smart ones you know (Infantry).

pvd021: But yes I'm a crappy American, I can actually tell the difference between an Iraqi Patriot fighting for his homeland

What makes you a crappy American in my eyes is that you call the people that tried to kill me and my friends over there "Iraqi patriots fighting for his homeland" (reminiscent of Mrs. Sheehan). You and Americans like you make me angry then sad, but I know that there are fine Americans out there, I've served with the best of them, something you will never know.

And I know you fight them over there, so you don't have to fight them in America, but over there is Afghanistan (which you're losing btw),

Thats where I am deploying next, and we will NOT lose it, despite people like you trying your best to stop us from any form of success. Thats why I thank God people like you make no difference in this world, other than your own pathetic self consumed life. It makes me sleep better at night.

Tell me, are you in the Marines? Infantry? That's where they send all the smart ones you know (Infantry).

Sure am, would not sign the contract until they gave me infantry, it was hard to get being a reservist, but this is Texas so we have a lot of infantry units. The fact that you try to use that as an insult amuses me. Thanks for the quasi-hate filled almost thank you as well.

I hope one day you see past your blind hatred.

Kirby Muxloe: Short form:
He had to choose between siding with Al Qaeda or the US.
He sided with the US, because to him and others like him, it was the lesser of two evils.

Not sure how we can spin this story as a "victory" for either the pro or anti war bunch... it is just sad. Wonder what percentage of the population in Iraq share his views?

Actually, this is a very common sentiment. al-Qaeda in Iraq has never had more than miniscule support since it started killing more than US invaders. Since Sunni and Shia both agree that they don't like 'em, can we pull out now and let them eradicate AQiI?

TexasIsBetter

I think we gonna need a bigger helochopper for to push people out: water

I love the anti military trolls. So full of themselves. And they have so much experience in the real world.

They're like...world travel guys.

TexasIsBetter:
What makes you a crappy American in my eyes is that you call the people that tried to kill me and my friends over there "Iraqi patriots fighting for his homeland",

I respect the Soldiers who are fighting in Iraq at the moment. They are doing a tough job and should be praised. However,what I resent is the fact that they are fighting a war, which should have never been started. I resent how the current regime capitalized off of a legitimate cause (Afghanistan) and used it to forward their own agenda.


Thats where I am deploying next, and we will NOT lose it, despite people like you trying your best to stop us from any form of success.

Defeat or withdrawal is not an option in either arenas. A war has been started, America has to stay as long as need be.

TexasIsBetter:

Good luck to you when you deploy!! Hopefully you will be home soon.
I'm in Indiana, and we have just sent our largest deployment since WWII, including some friends of mine. Stay safe and hope you all are back home safely.

I served in the regular US Army so I'm getting a kick out of these noob's replies.

Isn't it sad when a senior U.S. Army General is forced out of his job because he voiced misgivings about his Commander-in-Chimps dumbassishness?

I recall a similar episode, documented well: the time when another would-be DICKtator tried to impose his Divine Will upon the World, and his Senior Commanders balked. They were fired (or otherwise executed.)

Don't Remember? Then Get The FARK off my lawn.

You farking piece of dung.

US ARMY VETERAN
2d Armored, "HELL ON WHEELS"
and we'll take it back someday.

DarthBrooks: If the Democrats win, this will suddenly become a war of Peace and Justice, like Bosnia.

Hey remember when no U.S. troops died in Kosovo? None? That is how you fight a farking war. Give Bill some credit

RedDyeNumber4: And the moral of the story is....

... nope, got nothing.

The moral of the story is the enemy of my enemy is...
Wars and foreign policy in general makes for strange ever shifting alliances. During World War II we supported to one degree or another Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Minh and De Gaulle. That sure came to bite us in the rear later but serve our needs at the time.
History is filled with such examples.

"If Hitler were to invade Hell, I should find occasion to make a favourable reference to the Devil"
Winston Churchill regarding his policy toward Stalin

moothemagiccow: DarthBrooks: If the Democrats win, this will suddenly become a war of Peace and Justice, like Bosnia.

Hey remember when no U.S. troops died in Kosovo? None? That is how you fight a farking war. Give Bill some credit

Fail.

The "no troops died in Kosovo" is a myth.

JQPublic: moothemagiccow: DarthBrooks: If the Democrats win, this will suddenly become a war of Peace and Justice, like Bosnia.

Hey remember when no U.S. troops died in Kosovo? None? That is how you fight a farking war. Give Bill some credit

Fail.

The "no troops died in Kosovo" is a myth.

Got Data?
Actually, I know you won't provide the data since it undermines what you're trying to imply.
I'll provide it for you...

KOSOVO
1999
DURATION IN DAYS: 77
DEPLOYED U.S. TROOPS: 7,000
U.S. BATTLE DEATHS: 0
TOTAL U.S. DEATHS: 2

"An Apache tank-busting helicopter crashed in a nighttime training exercise in Albania early Wednesday, killing the two U.S. airmen aboard.
A NATO official said the helicopter probably hit a power or phone line." (new window)

jaidev:
Got Data?
Actually, I know you won't provide the data since it undermines what you're trying to imply.
I'll provide it for you...

KOSOVO
1999
DURATION IN DAYS: 77
DEPLOYED U.S. TROOPS: 7,000
U.S. BATTLE DEATHS: 0
TOTAL U.S. DEATHS: 2

"An Apache tank-busting helicopter crashed in a nighttime training exercise in Albania early Wednesday, killing the two U.S. airmen aboard.
A NATO official said the helicopter probably hit a power or phone line." (new window)

I would like to take a moment to point out that whatever official statistics are released, they are not necessarily the truth of the situation. I know that during the Korean war, we ran many incursions into mainland china, becuase the Chinese were the ones actually running that war. Regardless of what the statistics say, soldiers have died in nameless hellholes with no name and no identity. Hundreds of shallow graves hold the bodies of our men the world over who died in "training exercises" or from "accidental death" at the hands of the enemy.

Remember the Fallen

TexasIsBetter (favorite)
What makes you a crappy American in my eyes is that you call the people that tried to kill me and my friends over there "Iraqi patriots fighting for his homeland" (reminiscent of Mrs. Sheehan). You and Americans like you make me angry then sad, but I know that there are fine Americans out there, I've served with the best of them, something you will never know.

Maybe instead of being pissed off on the fact that these guys want to kill you, maybe you should ask yourself Why the fark you're over there in the first place and why they want to kill you. If you think its one of those BS answers that your leader gives you like, "they hate our freedom our democracy or way of life." Maybe you should use your noggin and display some critical thinking. They wouldn't be shooting at you if you weren't over there, and if you were helping making their country a better place, they definitely wouldn't be targeting you. You think that you being part of the Military makes you a better American, and because you're in the US military that automatically makes you some sort of good guy? I'm pretty sure you're too drenched and caught up with your own propaganda, but if you actually took a step back and looked at the big picture, you would realize why you might not be liked so much, after 'some of your fine fellow Americans' you served beside helped even further ruin what was already a shiatty country and life for the Iraqi people. At least back in Saddam's time. The people knew who were the good guys and who were the bad guys, where the bullets were coming from, and their normal flow of electricity water, and employment. You helped made the life of the Iraqi people go from bad to worse.

Thats where I am deploying next, and we will NOT lose it, despite people like you trying your best to stop us from any form of success. Thats why I thank God people like you make no difference in this world, other than your own pathetic self consumed life. It makes me sleep better at night.

If you can win in Afghanistan, that's great. But according to the scoreboard, you're losing and losing fairly big time. Majority of the country is unstable, and the heroin trade is back to is norm. The troops only have the capital and a few areas secured but most of the country is owned by the bad guys. Again, you can thank Bush for sending you to Iraq and making America one of the more hated countries in the world. But hey, you still got to execute his goals and agenda.

Tell me, are you in the Marines? Infantry? That's where they send all the smart ones you know (Infantry).

Sure am, would not sign the contract until they gave me infantry, it was hard to get being a reservist, but this is Texas so we have a lot of infantry units. The fact that you try to use that as an insult amuses me. Thanks for the quasi-hate filled almost thank you as well.

Funny, the military is practically begging people to join. I wonder how much of a struggle they put up when you demanded to be an organic bullet stopper. I'm happy you're amused. Hey, the world needs ditch diggers too. I just didn't know some would actually be proud of being a ditchdigger. To each his own I guess.

I hope one day you see past your blind hatred.

I don't have much hatred, in fact I kind of pity you. You're just a small pawn in a giant chessboard, which strategic moves are decided by one of the biggest idiot president in American history. Some would even call you a tool, but you're not even that. Essentially you're just a component of a giant tool. Your job, position, and very existence to this 'chessmaster' is replaceable and easily dispensable. You might think of yourself as some form of Hero or patriot, or a true citizen of the USA, but on the flip side, you just might be viewed as one of those foolish bastards that just got caught up in the hype and wasn't smart enough to know any better.