some guy brought it up on hannity and colmes, saying that it was silly to question either about this kind of superfluous crap.

he was shouted down by three fat angry white guys.

Epic Facepalm. I'm so tired of this nonsense.

burndtdan: some guy brought it up on hannity and colmes, saying that it was silly to question either about this kind of superfluous crap.

he was shouted down by three fat angry white guys.


I saw that. It was hilarious because they quite expertly turned it around and refused to answer the question.

I also enjoyed how Hannity refused to answer the question if any child who attended that church can or can't be president.

Pissed me the hell off.

dgc360: burndtdan: some guy brought it up on hannity and colmes, saying that it was silly to question either about this kind of superfluous crap.

he was shouted down by three fat angry white guys.


I saw that. It was hilarious because they quite expertly turned it around and refused to answer the question.

I also enjoyed how Hannity refused to answer the question if any child who attended that church can or can't be president.

Pissed me the hell off.

what about the black correspondent at the top of the show getting ridiculed by some conservative talk radio host...

only to then have even the conservative talk radio host offended by hannity's assertions.

now that was comedy farking gold.

burndtdan: what about the black correspondent at the top of the show getting ridiculed by some conservative talk radio host...

only to then have even the conservative talk radio host offended by hannity's assertions.

now that was comedy farking gold.

ooh, I missed that..turned in a bit later.

it was when hannity claimed that obama was not fit to be president and should resign from the senate, for what his pastor said. "like trent lott", he said.

of course, knowing a guy that said something inflammatory is exactly the same as going on tv and saying that being gay is equitable to alcoholism, kleptomania and sex addiction. and being involved in a bribery scandal directly. six one, half dozen the other, obviously.

the radio host kinda froze for a minute, then backtracked a little by commenting that it wasn't obama that had said the things, then said to hannity "this is what makes people not want to listen to talk radio".

What's good for the goose...

There's a big difference between.. oh fark it, nevermind. why bother

I wish somebody would bring up one basic fact;
Nobody would give a damn about Obama or Clinton or anything they said or did if the Republicans hadn't so repeatedly and thoroughly screwed the pooch during their time in power.
McCain would be a shoo-in.

Phukhing Hannity. If his brow got any lower he would have to part his hair to pee.

People expect Republicans to have insane religious figures on their side. I mean, it's status quo.

nashBridges: Subby Fails.

Actually, so does this blogger. McCain doesn't even attend these churches. I don't think Obama should be held to account for words his pastor spoke, but fer Chrissakes the ministers this idiot is talking about aren't even in McCain's state.

ok, what churches do Clinton and McCain attend? Have you seen anything in the media that even attempts to find out?

Sorry, first time you mention a political campaign from the pulpit, you lose your tax-exempt status.

Fark your wish-thinking and your free ride on my dime. Go get a job.

nashBridges: My criticism was that this "blogger" picked two ministers at random who say they support McCain

I guess the one in Ohio is pretty huge for McCain in that state. Whether or not he's McCain's Spiritual advisor is a good question. I find it interesting that McCain was renouncing far right wingers left and right in 2000, but now in 2008, he doesn't denounce them at all. Is the far right really that important?

nashBridges: It's a bullshiat argument.

That thar be politics.

Because it's just as meaningless.

Nice try, Subby. "Spiritual advisor" isn't the same as "some guy who endorsed him who he's probably never even met."

My spirit guide is a howler monkey.

So if Katrina was the wrath of god what the hell did Gulfport do?

Because he's white, and wants war on Islam. I mean, people LIKE that idea in this country apparently.

But, but, according to Rightwing Radio®, Obama is a Crypto-Muslim! So what difference does it make what his so-called Pastor says, since he wasn't listening anyway?

The people who are upset about the clips being run in the news need to pull their heads out of their asses. Based on what I saw ( both can be summed up as "Obama isn't your typical politician" and "America's foreign policy pissed off the people who attacked us") I'm failing to see why anyone is trying to turn this into a story. It boggles my mind that there are people out there that would think either of those statements are in any way controversial, even if said in the fashion of the stereotypical "Black Preacher". Are there other, more damning clips out there that I'm not aware of, or are folks just desperate to fill the space between now and April 22nd with anything they can?

Wait, how is this guy McCain's spiritual guide? Did they take a journey together to the mountain or something?

Yeah, um, Rush said that we gotta win, and stuff. And, um, he said that if Mr. Hussein were president, we would be defeated in Iraq and the terrorists would win. And, he said for me to vote for Hillary, which confused me, but I did anyways.

/off to the rodeo in 26 minutes

When they were talking about Obama and his pastor on Olbermann, they mentioned that this pastor had been fired/removed from Obama's 'Religious Leadership Committee'. Why the fark does any presidential candidate need a religious committee of any sort? What are they supposed to do, give the biblical rationale for taking some course of action?

One a side point, just how many of these "One of Obama's pastors said something critical of America, burn him!" stories is Fark going to green in the politics tab? I know it's slim pickings because of the lack of primaries until the middle of next month, but does it really need that many threads dedicated to it? Evolution vs Stupidity threads are far more epic, and even those only get one, maybe two greens a day.

With all the talk about Obama's pastor, why aren't people talking about McCain's spiritual guide, shall we?

You mean, the late Mother Theresa, who handed John & Cindy McCain a dying child who wasn't expected to live much longer, the one they took home and adopted. Is that the spiritual guide you mean?

Actually, the real difference here is that Obama's Pastor's comments have embarassed him and caused Obama to come out and uncategorically repudiate him.

McCain's nutjob supporter Hagee's views are actually likely to GAIN McCain some votes from the nutjob Right, so McCain is completely silent, lest anyone think he disagrees.

That the right is bashing Obama on this is pretty hilarious when you consider that plenty of Evangelicals came out claiming that America deserved 911 because of it's sinful ways, that this country and Israel are nothing more than a bit players in the Apocalypse, and that all Jews deserve to go to Hell. There's a difference, but it's just shades of crazy.

Before the Dawn: Yeah, McCain has spent the last twenty years sitting in the pews of a racist church - a church that just gave David Duke the 'Man of the Year' award.

Riiiiiiight...


The evil-McCain-baptist-endorsment angle only plays to those who are already hard-core liberals. It doesn't persuade anyone else.

The words and beliefs of Obama's life long mentor, Jeremiah Wright, are a shock to the entire nation. It's a real eye opener for a great many people.


Swing and a miss, angry libtards...

Christ, you're not even trying.. If you're going to troll, you're going to need a lot more subtlety than that. What happened to all the good troll like skookum? It seems like all we have now are half assed caricatures that are given permission to break the ToS to drive up responses.

FTFA: In a March 12 article, Mother Jones Washington editor David Corn reported that Parsley had endorsed McCain on February 26 at a campaign rally at which they both appeared. Parsley called McCain a "strong, true, consistent conservative," and McCain referred to Parsley as a "spiritual guide."

Sounds like McCain has met this hateful prick, accepted his endorsement and calls him is spiritual guide. He's also welcomed Hagee's endorsement and won't repudiate him even after several news reports have reported on Hagee's anti-Catholic vitriol.

McCain is doing whatever he can to suck up to the religious right. He knows he doesn't stand a chance of winning unless he craps on everything that made him a "maverick" back in 2000. He's basically Hillary Clinton with a dick.

Murkanen: The people who are upset about the clips being run in the news need to pull their heads out of their asses. Based on what I saw ( both can be summed up as "Obama isn't your typical politician" and "America's foreign policy pissed off the people who attacked us") I'm failing to see why anyone is trying to turn this into a story. It boggles my mind that there are people out there that would think either of those statements are in any way controversial, even if said in the fashion of the stereotypical "Black Preacher". Are there other, more damning clips out there that I'm not aware of, or are folks just desperate to fill the space between now and April 22nd with anything they can?

Yeah. I'd kind of had political overload and hadn't been paying that much attention for the last few days, but when I saw the clips on Hannity tonight, I was seriously underwhelmed. I didn't particularly disagree with 95% of what was said, and the rest was the kind of things that you'd expect from your slightly nutty old uncle. I mean, the AIDS conspiracy theory is a little nuts, but he's certainly not the only person who's come up with it, and considering the history of what the government's done to the black community, you can't really blame a guy of Wright's age for being a little paranoid.

How about McCain's monumental pander to the Baptists, when he told them he was thinking of converting to Baptist, but would wait until AFTER the election (so no one would think he was pandering)?

Seriously, I'm used to hearing all kinds of shiat from politicians, but I'm just religious enough that that makes even me sick.

all the more reason to become an atheist. if you ever run for president you wont have to worry about your pastor saying stupid shiate

drharmful: all the more reason to become an atheist. if you ever run for president you wont have to worry about your pastor saying stupid shiate

Nor do you have to worry about making an acceptance speech.

Is a Crypto-Muslim anything like a Reverse Vampire?

Or is it sort of like it, but different?


/obviously very confused

drharmful: all the more reason to become an atheist. if you ever run for president you wont have to worry about your pastor saying stupid shiate

But then the electorate won't trust you. They'll think you're evil.

Gawd, we're boned. If you attend a church, your authority figure will probably say something that will bother someone and since you're part of the church, of course you agree with everything that person says. But if you distance yourself from the church or don't go to church at all, then everyone questions your morals and your faith.

Fark. We really need to grow up.

nashBridges: Subby Fails.

Actually, so does this blogger. McCain doesn't even attend these churches. I don't think Obama should be held to account for words his pastor spoke, but fer Chrissakes the ministers this idiot is talking about aren't even in McCain's state.


When I see a Media Nutters tag, I think "Oh, Flying Spaghetti Monster, what nonsense is this now?"

But this is sad even for them.

MisterBill:
McCain is doing whatever he can to suck up to the religious right. He knows he doesn't stand a chance of winning unless he craps on everything that made him a "maverick" back in 2000. He's basically Hillary Clinton with a dick.

Pretty much THIS. I don't think McCain believes in the wacky stuff these two ministers preach anymore than Obama does, however it's pretty sad he's overlooking their bullshait just to suck up to the Religious Right.

maxx2112: nashBridges: Subby Fails.

Actually, so does this blogger. McCain doesn't even attend these churches. I don't think Obama should be held to account for words his pastor spoke, but fer Chrissakes the ministers this idiot is talking about aren't even in McCain's state.


When I see a Media Nutters tag, I think "Oh, Flying Spaghetti Monster, what nonsense is this now?"

But this is sad even for them.

I feel that way about both MM and Fox "News". Both are partisan, hysterical biaches.

duncangonuts: drharmful: all the more reason to become an atheist. if you ever run for president you wont have to worry about your pastor saying stupid shiate

But then the electorate won't trust you. They'll think you're evil.

Gawd, we're boned. If you attend a church, your authority figure will probably say something that will bother someone and since you're part of the church, of course you agree with everything that person says. But if you distance yourself from the church or don't go to church at all, then everyone questions your morals and your faith.

Fark. We really need to grow up.

youre 100% right. that was exactly the point i wanted to make. though my post was half sarcastic its awful to think that the reality is you just cant win. we are farked.

the real sad part of it all is most americans would rather you be a part of a dave koresh type cult than an atheist.

nashBridges: McCain doesn't even attend these churches. I don't think Obama should be held to account for words his pastor spoke, but fer Chrissakes the ministers this idiot is talking about aren't even in McCain's state.

So you'd not hold it against a politician if he stood on stage with a hatemonger while that hatemonger said whatever he liked as long as that politician hadn't been doing it for years or if the hatemonger lived in a different state?

I thought the conservatards were so incensed by flip floppers which is what McCain is doing on this. He blasted the religious hatemongers in 2000, now he courts them.

Syntax error!

drharmful: all the more reason to become an atheist. if you ever run for president you wont have to worry about your pastor saying stupid shiate

An Atheist has a roughly the same chance of being elected President as a Satanist. Judging by the reaction I've gotten from those who are Christians that I have told that I'm an atheist, they probably think there's no difference between the two.

nashBridges: I'm sorry, was the hatemonger spouting objectionable material for the five minutes he was near McCain?

So if McCain stood on stage with David Duke while David Duke read 'The Great Gatsby', it would be peachy keen in your eyes?

Personally I want nothing to do with known hatemongers, but that's just me.

This is good news. Evangelicals are not complete idiots. When they see that one candidate has a 'spritual leader' that spouts off insanely intolerant and vicious things about non-Christians, they'll be excited again. They'll have a candidate to stump for in their tax-free megachurches. Huckabee is gone. Let them vote for what they believe in!

So, all hail Obama!

Indeed.

nashBridges: I said Obama deserves a pass on this one. My criticism was that this "blogger" picked two ministers at random who say they support McCain without offering any evidence whatsoever that McCain has any relationship with them at all. It would be like finding a random convicted felon to offer an endorsement and then saying "See??!! He likes prisoners!"

This.

Ann Coulter has said she will campaign for Clinton, so does that mean that we can use what she said as evidence of Clinton's beliefs?

There's a lot of difference between Obama seeking out a particular pastor, attending his church for 20 years, having him perform his marriage ceremony, baptise his children, and use parts of his sermons in a book he wrote than quoting the beliefs of several random preachers who have endorsed McCain that McCain may or may not even have heard of.

And just a few weeks ago people here were arguing that Media Matters is never biased.

Mercutio879: I find it interesting that McCain was renouncing far right wingers left and right in 2000, but now in 2008, he doesn't denounce them at all.

Argh2: McCain's nutjob supporter Hagee's views are actually likely to GAIN McCain some votes from the nutjob Right, so McCain is completely silent, lest anyone think he disagrees.

Those are completely false and you know it.

McCain Rejects Anti-Catholic Views

NEW ORLEANS (AP) - Republican presidential candidate John McCain on Friday repudiated any views of a prominent televangelist who endorsed him last month "if they are anti-Catholic or offensive to Catholics."

We've had a dignified campaign, and I repudiate any comments that are made, including Pastor Hagee's, if they are anti-Catholic or offensive to Catholics," McCain said.

"I sent two of my children to Catholic school. I categorically reject and repudiate any statement that was made that was anti-Catholic, both in intent and nature. I categorically reject it, and I repudiate it," McCain said.

There's no hate like racist religious hate, regardless of who's spouting it. I hope someday a candidate can win that is not at all religious. I laugh at all of you blind lemmings, wasting precious moments of your life doing something with no point. Oh....wait, I just realized I'm posting on fark, so ignore the last sentence.

reddsharkk: There's no hate like racist religious hate, regardless of who's spouting it. I hope someday a candidate can win that is not at all religious. I laugh at all of you blind lemmings, wasting precious moments of your life doing something with no point. Oh....wait, I just realized I'm posting on fark, so ignore the last sentence.

That's just another "I'm sorry if you're too sensitive" non-apology. He's not rejecting the endorsement. He's perfectly willing to have this hate-monger support him, he just doesn't want to cost himself Catholic votes.

You guys seriously have to read Before the Dawn's profile. If he's trolling he's gone hardcore.

If he's not he should really remove himself from the gene pool or seek some kind of help cause. . .WOW. If crazy were population he'd be China.

MisterBill: reddsharkk: There's no hate like racist religious hate, regardless of who's spouting it. I hope someday a candidate can win that is not at all religious. I laugh at all of you blind lemmings, wasting precious moments of your life doing something with no point. Oh....wait, I just realized I'm posting on fark, so ignore the last sentence.

That's just another "I'm sorry if you're too sensitive" non-apology. He's not rejecting the endorsement. He's perfectly willing to have this hate-monger support him, he just doesn't want to cost himself Catholic The United Church of Christ votes.

I was making a point against religion in general. DNRTFA. I find all the religious racist finger pointing amusing, on all sides of the political spectrum. You won't find me defending ANY candidate. Thanks for playing.