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(Voice of Amurica) Sad Tibetans set fire to their country to protest Chinese rule. You're doing it wrong   (voanews.com) divider line 59
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OlafTheBent [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 12:02:28 PM  
It worked for the Russians against Napoleon...

 
burndtdan 2008-03-14 12:10:20 PM  
it helped me escape that abandoned warehouse when the feds showed up.

 
SoothinglyDeranged [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 12:16:05 PM  
If they can't have it, no one can. Seems to work.

 
HulkHands [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 01:07:15 PM  
Something tells me Tibetans wouldn't set fire near one of the most sacred Buddhist temples. Or is that just me?

 
question_dj [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 01:27:33 PM  
The Tibetans are setting fire to Chinese shops and buildings. Not Tibetan things.

 
HulkHands [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 01:28:22 PM  
question_dj: The Tibetans are setting fire to Chinese shops and buildings. Not Tibetan things.

FTA

Eyewitnesses report flames engulfing at least one market on Lhasa's Barkor Street, near the Jokhang temple, which Tibetan Buddhists regard as one of their most sacred sites.

 
perdu 2008-03-14 01:37:41 PM  
Nothing is permanent, anyhow.

 
question_dj [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 01:47:33 PM  
HulkHands: Eyewitnesses report flames engulfing at least one market on Lhasa's Barkor Street, near the Jokhang temple, which Tibetan Buddhists regard as one of their most sacred sites.

I read that. It says it's NEAR the temple, not "the temple is on fire". the market might be on fire, but it's a result of Chinese shops getting torched.

 
Cagey B [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 01:47:55 PM  
When you need a fire started right, trust Buddhist Monks™!

 
burndtdan 2008-03-14 01:48:42 PM  
perdu: Nothing is permanent, anyhow.

all we are is dust in the wind

 
Cagey B [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 01:53:32 PM  
burndtdan: perdu: Nothing is permanent, anyhow.

all we are is dust in the wind


Socrates approves.

 
Sym_pathetic 2008-03-14 02:06:26 PM  
They ARE doing it wrong:

static.howstuffworks.com

That's better.

 
Hideously Gigantic Smurf 2008-03-14 03:19:31 PM  
Evidently they watched the LA riots for research.

 
Headso 2008-03-14 03:19:57 PM  
that's the Rodney king riots style of rioting...

 
SacriliciousBeerSwiller 2008-03-14 03:27:09 PM  
It worked for the Russians vs. Germany.

 
vernonFL [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 03:31:51 PM  
perdu: Nothing is permanent, anyhow.

This.

 
Snarfangel [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 03:41:18 PM  
Subby, don't you mean they are doing it Wong?

 
Bhasayate [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 03:42:05 PM  
vernonFL: perdu: Nothing is permanent, anyhow.

This.


And they're OK with that.

 
FunkOut [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 03:45:57 PM  
Hey, the French set fire to all kinds of things just because it's a Monday or the butter used in their croissants was off or the wind changed without warning.

No French riot is complete without cars being turned over and ignited.

 
vernonFL [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 03:47:47 PM  
Before the Chinese came, Tibet was *really* backwards, basically a bronze age feudal society with the monks running everything and the Dalai Lama worshipped as a God. He was both the religious and political leader.

I'm not saying the Chinese are wonderful but neither was life under
the Dalai Lama.

 
Edsel 2008-03-14 03:53:09 PM  
vernonFL: Before the Chinese came, Tibet was *really* backwards, basically a bronze age feudal society with the monks running everything and the Dalai Lama worshipped as a God. He was both the religious and political leader.



And plenty of them were pretty darned happy with that status quo, until the Chinese brought them "progress".

 
Bhasayate [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 03:53:35 PM  
Gregory F. Stuart: If you meet Buddha on the road, kill him.

The Buddha is a dried piece of shiat.

 
Omorda 2008-03-14 03:55:22 PM  
Gregory F. Stuart: If you meet Buddha on the road, kill him.

for the real buddha is in your heart. yeah you saw csi, big deal.

well it isn't like they are going to try and invade china and burn it down. if an enemy does not value human life and only values property, then you destroy the property.

 
rufus-t-firefly [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 03:56:48 PM  
question_dj: HulkHands: Eyewitnesses report flames engulfing at least one market on Lhasa's Barkor Street, near the Jokhang temple, which Tibetan Buddhists regard as one of their most sacred sites.

I read that. It says it's NEAR the temple, not "the temple is on fire". the market might be on fire, but it's a result of Chinese shops getting torched.


To be fair, the sentence structure could make you think that Barkor Street is one of their most sacred sites...

Who the fark edits news articles now? Surprised it doesn't say "...Tibetan Buddhist's regard..."

/Goddamned apostrophes used for plural nouns
//They make me SO MAD.

 
rufus-t-firefly [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 03:58:02 PM  
FunkOut: Hey, the French set fire to all kinds of things just because it's a Monday or the butter used in their croissants was off or the wind changed without warning.

No French riot is complete without cars being turned over and ignited.



And Americans do it when a sports team wins a championship.

 
Bhasayate [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 03:58:35 PM  
Gregory F. Stuart: Omorda: for the real buddha is in your heart. yeah you saw csi, big deal.

Nope, never seen it. Try again.


You got burned.

 
Bhasayate [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 03:59:53 PM  
Bhasayate: Gregory F. Stuart: Omorda: for the real buddha is in your heart. yeah you saw csi, big deal.

Nope, never seen it. Try again.

You got burned.


Whoops. I got burned, too. I meant that to be addressed to Omorda.

Karma's a biatch.

 
stlbluez 2008-03-14 04:00:13 PM  
Subby has obviously never seen the Little House episode where they blew up every piece of 'industry' in Walnut Grove over mineral right ownership.

 
schiefaw 2008-03-14 04:01:26 PM  
Sym_pathetic: They ARE doing it wrong:

That's better.


I was going to say that they have gone a step up from before. Setting yourself on fire just tends to eliminate the government's problem with protesters.

 
I_Love_Cheesecake 2008-03-14 04:04:36 PM  
vernonFL: Before the Chinese came, Tibet was *really* backwards, basically a bronze age feudal society with the monks running everything and the Dalai Lama worshipped as a God. He was both the religious and political leader.

I'm not saying the Chinese are wonderful but neither was life under
the Dalai Lama.


Before the Chinese invaded and annexed independent Tibet, the country was at peace. A theocracy, I guess, but a peaceful, Buddhist one, nevertheless. Ever since Communist occupation, Tibet has become a living hell. Fark the Chinese and their genocidal activities in Tibet. Fark the Beijing Olympics, too.

 
Omorda 2008-03-14 04:06:10 PM  
Gregory F. Stuart: Omorda: for the real buddha is in your heart. yeah you saw csi, big deal.

Nope, never seen it. Try again.


seriously as someone who has spent a metric fark-ton of time studying this subject , that line is pulled out everytime...and always because it appeared on csi. bothers me to no end. sorry..and sorry you are too much of an ass to own a tele. i kid i kid.


/no i don't believe, i just happen to read.

 
Hagbardr [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 04:08:42 PM  
FunkOut: No French riot is complete without cars being turned over and ignited.

Mind you, these are French cars they're torching. I'd be pissed too, if my car had only 3 lugnuts.

 
Korovyov [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 04:09:48 PM  
Gregory F. Stuart: If you meet Buddha on the road, kill him.

www.goats.com

 
Egalitarian [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-03-14 04:10:07 PM  
I thought the Tibetans were burning the houses and property of ethnic Chinese. You could say they're burning the country of the invaders rather than their own.

 
BuddhistWitchForChrist 2008-03-14 04:12:28 PM  
boingboing.net

 
coma 2008-03-14 04:30:40 PM  
Omorda: Gregory F. Stuart: Omorda: for the real buddha is in your heart. yeah you saw csi, big deal.

Nope, never seen it. Try again.

seriously as someone who has spent a metric fark-ton of time studying this subject , that line is pulled out everytime...and always because it appeared on csi. bothers me to no end. sorry..and sorry you are too much of an ass to own a tele. i kid i kid.


/no i don't believe, i just happen to read.



I assume you mean you studied a lot of CSI because there is no way in hell your dumbass knows shiat about koans.

 
tortilla burger 2008-03-14 04:31:07 PM  
The whole monks-lighting-themselves-on-fire thing is a pretty profound statement, but ultimately useless.

What the Tibetans need is for some country to sponsor them and arm them to the teeth, and possibly step in to help during the ensuing war for independence. There is about a 0% chance the Chinese will let this go without a fight.

 
Degree Absolute 2008-03-14 04:39:57 PM  
Nuke China

 
Hagbardr [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 04:40:55 PM  
tortilla burger: What the Tibetans need is for some country to sponsor them and arm them to the teeth, and possibly step in to help during the ensuing war for independence. There is about a 0% chance the Chinese will let this go without a fight.

Maybe Taiwan could do it. No chance of anything escalating there.

 
malken19 2008-03-14 04:42:05 PM  
FunkOut: Hey, the French set fire to all kinds of things just because it's a Monday or the butter used in their croissants was off or the wind changed without warning.

No French riot is complete without cars being turned over and ignited.


Yes, but the French don't send tanks in...they just surrender.

 
moops 2008-03-14 04:43:36 PM  
I_Love_Cheesecake: Before the Chinese invaded and annexed independent Tibet, the country was at peace. A theocracy, I guess, but a peaceful, Buddhist one, nevertheless. Ever since Communist occupation, Tibet has become a living hell.

Unfortunately, the Chinese claim to Tibet is pretty solid. It will never be independent from China. The best we can do is demand human rights.

 
Bhasayate [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 05:01:06 PM  
Bhasayate: Gregory F. Stuart: If you meet Buddha on the road, kill him.

The Buddha is a dried piece of shiat.


BTW -- this wasn't on CSI. It's part of a Zen koan, Dogen, I believe.

/Mu

 
drjekel_mrhyde 2008-03-14 05:05:11 PM  
Edsel: vernonFL: Before the Chinese came, Tibet was *really* backwards, basically a bronze age feudal society with the monks running everything and the Dalai Lama worshipped as a God. He was both the religious and political leader.



And plenty of them were pretty darned happy with that status quo, until the Chinese brought them "progress".


That's what we are doing for the Muslim world right

 
MonkeyVegetables [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 05:05:23 PM  
Cagey B: burndtdan: perdu: Nothing is permanent, anyhow.

all we are is dust in the wind

Socrates approves.


Kansas approves

 
The_Sponge [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 05:06:33 PM  
drjekel_mrhyde: That's what we are doing for the Muslim world right


I give that troll attempt a 2/10.

 
evilboyevil 2008-03-14 06:20:29 PM  
tortilla burger: The whole monks-lighting-themselves-on-fire thing is a pretty profound statement, but ultimately useless.

What the Tibetans need is for some country to sponsor them and arm them to the teeth, and possibly step in to help during the ensuing war for independence. There is about a 0% chance the Chinese will let this go without a fight.


True, the monk that set himself on fire, Thich Quang Duc, was ultimately laughed at by the government. The government claimed that the photographer drugged and bribed him. The wife of Ngo Dinh Diem's younger brother, considered the first lady of South Vietnam, laughed that she would "clap hands at seeing another monk barbecue show," and that it was a waste of gasoline.

All it does is help to give international coverage. Gandhi's idea of nonviolent resistance is an utter failure. People are pieces of shiat at heart.

 
I_Love_Cheesecake 2008-03-14 06:25:34 PM  
moops: I_Love_Cheesecake: Before the Chinese invaded and annexed independent Tibet, the country was at peace. A theocracy, I guess, but a peaceful, Buddhist one, nevertheless. Ever since Communist occupation, Tibet has become a living hell.

Unfortunately, the Chinese claim to Tibet is pretty solid. It will never be independent from China. The best we can do is demand human rights.


No doubt the Communist Party of China will go down without a fight - re Tibet, re the Uighurs, re Inner Mongolia, etc. Yet, I am encouraged by reports and such of massive, daily protests throughout China that the Chinese media attempt to suppress, but snippets of which manage to get out. More and more Chinese are standing up to the CPC, which gives me heart. I think that the Communists will fall there within 20 years. It would be sooner were it not for the fact that us in the West want to continue to do business with them, in spite of the CPC's murderous ways.

 
Jeffrey.Rodriguez 2008-03-14 06:32:58 PM  
lh3.google.com

 
Naman [TotalFark] 2008-03-14 06:50:07 PM  
Edsel: vernonFL: Before the Chinese came, Tibet was *really* backwards, basically a bronze age feudal society with the monks running everything and the Dalai Lama worshipped as a God. He was both the religious and political leader.



And plenty of them were pretty darned happy with that status quo, until the Chinese brought them "progress".


And plenty of Americans were pretty darned happy with the status quo before the end of slavery.

Tibet was, before becoming part of the PRC, a theocratic, repressed society, even more backwards than Taliban-ruled Afghanistan.

Most Tibetans were serfs who were pretty much owned by the priests and aristocrats. The PRC actually did try to let them remain semi-autonomous at first, but they were lagging way behind the rest of the PRC in human rights and industrial development so the PRC government took over.

 
magores 2008-03-14 07:19:26 PM  
As an American living in China, who has a Buddha-like belly, and who is currently setting fire to one end of a cigarette...

 
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