I just hope they don't question his pink hearts, yellow moons, orange stars and green clovers.

That would just be wrong.

Mother of Dog! Are they going to argue about who's the most liberal?

Say it isn't so. Ohhhh my this is rich. Break out the Lib-O-Meter.

Don't forget his pots of gold, rainbows, and red balloons.

That would be an even greater travesty.

I simply cannot comprehend what world Clinton exists on. It certainly isn't ours.

Hillary: Barack, you're too Liberal.
Obama: Hillary, you're a Commie.
Hillary: No, you are. A big fat one.
Obama: Nu huh, sister. you are.
Hillary: am not
Obama: are too

/this is too much

GaryPDX

And that differs in what important aspect from the Republican "I'll nuke America's enemies twice as much as you'll do it" circle jerk?

2wolves: GaryPDX

And that differs in what important aspect from the Republican "I'll nuke America's enemies twice as much as you'll do it" circle jerk?

Clowns to the left, jokers to the right..:)

Her husband won becuase he ran as a centrist. She should have taken that stance long ago. I can see why she was trying to appeal to the far left early on though.

GaryPDX:
Clowns to the left, jokers to the right..:)

Here I am stuck in the middle with you.

I need to start drinking more. Job tests for everything but alcohol. I could go in ripped to the gills.... fuk it.

Obama is "too liberal" because he:
-takes vast gobs of campaign cash from ruthless transnational corporations
-supports the war
-supports USA-PATRIOT Act, torture
-wants to bomb Iran, Pakistan
-supports the US-Israel Axis of Apartheid

Git 'er done, Clinton.

When will people start to call her on this crazy-ass stuff??

In what world does she live? Is she even a Democrat?

I seriously wonder what her life is like. Does she have close friends? In private, who does she hang out with? I mean, she doesn't exactly have a close marriage in any emotional way. What the hell kind of person is this?

To steal from another thread:

Questioning if he's too liberal to win a general election is a major and legitimate concern for many of his supporters. Calling him the 'most liberal senator' is just plain dishonest.

DamnYankees: To steal from another thread:

Depressing, but I don't think he's right at all.

*taps out*

I can't take this crap anymore. I'm so tired... So, so tired...

This will cause me to do two things:

1) Donate as much as I can spare to Obama, and
2) Stop caring about politics until the convention is over.

Saying a candidate is too liberal or too conservative to win an election is revealing ones ignorance concerning politics. It's not so simple as a straight-line continuum.

Looks like someone needs a good 'ol cockpunch.

/not sexist

The Clinton camp has the most contradictory spin ever.

One second Obama is too much of a centrist who loves Reagan and isn't for universal health care. The next he is too liberal.

One minute Obama is not ready to be president. The next he is the ideal VP, one step away from the presidency.

One minute Obama is only popular with latte-sipping hippies. The next he is only popular with irrelevant red state democrats.

etc.
etc.

Wow. He was her VP pick, now too liberal. She wants it so bad she can taste it

Shaggy_C [TotalFark] Quote 2008-03-09 11:18:13 PM
Questioning if he's too liberal to win a general election is a major and legitimate concern for many of his supporters.

In theory, perhaps. But not when his opponent is Hillary Clinton, somone despised by independents and moderate republicans.

Whether or not Clinton is a liberal in reality, she wont' be getting the votes of anyone afraid of liberals, so pretending Obama's liberalness would be a liability vis-a-vis Clinton is idiotic.

Poll driven attacks and pandering to fear. Who else does that Hillary?

bronyaur1: When will people start to call her on this crazy-ass stuff??

It's all about the ratings. The media's saving the nitty-gritty on Hillary for later.

You know what to do, shoppers...

GaryPDX [TotalFark] Quote 2008-03-09 07:42:32 PM
Hillary: Barack, you're too Liberal.
Obama: Hillary, you're a Commie.
Hillary: No, you are. A big fat one.
Obama: Nu huh, sister. you are.
Hillary: am not
Obama: are too

/this is too much

Hey, Obama hasn't played this "you are too liberal!!!" game at all. At least yet.

I can't wait for Hillary to go to the ultimate attack on Barack: That he's only in it for power, that he doesn't care about the American people and he should stop campaigning for the good of the nation!

(Look in a mirror.)

saintstryfe: I can't wait for Hillary to go to the ultimate attack on Barack: That he's only in it for power, that he doesn't care about the American people and he should stop campaigning for the good of the nation!

(Look in a mirror.)

I'm waiting for the "Barack is riding the coattails of his wife" argument.

Bill Frist: Whether or not Clinton is a liberal in reality, she wont' be getting the votes of anyone afraid of liberals, so pretending Obama's liberalness would be a liability vis-a-vis Clinton is idiotic.

Agreed; but that doesn't make calling him on it unfair in any way.

She was raised a republican neo-con, she's continually voted as a republican neo-con, she's campaigning like a republican neo-con. Scortched earth tactics, fear mongering, mudslinging, lobbyist pandering. It is not to say democrats do not do these things, simply that none can do them quite so well and all at the same time.

She is, for all intensive purposes, a republican. She's even got a potentially wide stance. You can't hide either of these things forever, and it's becoming ever more obvious as time goes on.

Obama's not liberal enough IMO. But I'll give him a pass. Gobama!

LittleSmitty: Wow. He was her VP pick, now too liberal. She wants it so bad she can taste it

I'll let you in on a secret. This is a woman who wants it so bad she'll kill for it.

Falcc: She is, for all intensive purposes, a republican. She's even got a potentially wide stance. You can't hide either of these things forever, and it's becoming ever more obvious as time goes on.

Please - don't pass your shiat off on us. Be man enough to take the hit for your own screwups. Do you see us calling Bush a Democrat? Nothing is more disgusting than watching you gutless Dems try to wipe your own dogs crap off your shoe on our lawn.

How about the theory that she is playing for McCain... Ruin Obama McCain wins... mainly because without the Super-dels pulling some shiat she cannot win. So she goes after Obama to end him, set McCain up to win and in 4 years it's her turn.

Just a thought.

Do you see us calling Bush a Democrat?

Yes, quite a bit. It started in 2006 when the buyers remorse fully set in, and usually concerned Bush's spending and immigration stance.

Nice try, tho.

Arguing sides when you have three right wing candidates competing against each other is a little surreal, from a non-US perspective.

Translation: The Clinton campaign will say anything to win. Obvious tag must be out on a dinner break.

muck4doo: Her husband won becuase he ran as a centrist. She should have taken that stance long ago. I can see why she was trying to appeal to the far left early on though.

Candidates try to appeal to the center of their party first, and then run toward the center of the electorate after the primaries.

DamnYankees: I'm waiting for the "Barack is riding the coattails of his wife" argument.

Some troll the other day was claiming that Obama had never held a "real" job and most of his life consisted of being supported by his wife. So, I guess we can say that that one is at least out there floating around the internet

Falcc: She is, for all intensive purposes, a republican.

Nothing to do with this thread, but do people even think about what they are saying?

INTENTS AND PURPOSES. FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES. What the hell are "intensive purposes?"

GAAAHHHH!

that kunt has no fuhking class at all

if i were to meet her on the street
i would spit on her shoes

saintstryfe: I can't wait for Hillary to go to the ultimate attack on Barack: That he's only in it for power, that he doesn't care about the American people and he should stop campaigning for the good of the nation!

(Look in a mirror.)

She's already kind of done that. Remember his kindergarten papers? Claiming he is only doing it out of some long held ambition.

*Hart's

/Which one of them's a nazi?
//I am teh grammaR nazzie :(

Rodeodoc: Please - don't pass your shiat off on us. Be man enough to take the hit for your own screwups. Do you see us calling Bush a Democrat? Nothing is more disgusting than watching you gutless Dems try to wipe your own dogs crap off your shoe on our lawn.

Ahem, I'll have you know I'm a gutless Independent who voted for Obama in the primary. My first year old enough to vote and I already know not to grow too attached to any one party, maybe you'll get there sometime. The republicans might have been where it was at back when Barry Goldwater was the face of the party but we're in 2008 now and the face of the party is Bush, who Hillary is almost exactly like. Her campaign style is the same, her backers are the same, her goals are quite obviously the same, lip service to universal healthcare and declaration of taxes for all aside. Whether you like democrats or not she is certainly one in name only. Which is why she's so close to Lieberman.

And to be entirely realistic if Bush's numbers fall any further FOX will start placing a (D) in front of his name.

GaryPDX: 2wolves: GaryPDX

And that differs in what important aspect from the Republican "I'll nuke America's enemies twice as much as you'll do it" circle jerk?

Clowns to the left, jokers to the right..:)

Despite the disagreements we have, this basically ended the thread for me. Jolly good show, old bean!

This is getting downright insane. A member of the Democratic Party - accusing her opponent of being too much of a liberal? Wha?

Hillary, when you steal Karl Rove's playbook, you have to make some slight modifications to the text. Swap "Republican" with "Democrat" and "liberal" with "conservative." Dumbass.

Shaggy_C: Bill Frist: Whether or not Clinton is a liberal in reality, she wont' be getting the votes of anyone afraid of liberals, so pretending Obama's liberalness would be a liability vis-a-vis Clinton is idiotic.

Agreed; but that doesn't make calling him on it unfair in any way.

unfair? no.

but it is incredibly intellectually dishonest, coming from her.

I think it may be time to invoke the order of KITBASH.

Rodeodoc Do you see us calling Bush a Democrat?

I've heard the crooning that Bush is a liberal all the time.

GaryPDX: Mother of Dog! Are they going to argue about who's the most liberal?

Say it isn't so. Ohhhh my this is rich. Break out the Lib-O-Meter.

Hey, you guys did the same thing to McCain, and I didn't see you laughing then.

Hillary's basically going Romney on his ass. We all know how well that worked.

Ah, the cry of the modern Republican: "for thee, but not for me!"

;)