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(YouTube) Hero Let's mosey down to the Heartbreak Hotel and wish the incomparable John Cale a happy 66th birthday. Can I get a "Hallelujah"?   (youtube.com) divider line 21
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DrBenway [TotalFark] 2008-03-09 12:23:56 AM  
Yes! Hallelujah!

Hard to believe both of these guys are the same person. Schizy m.f.

 
Tantamount_To_Treason 2008-03-09 04:17:05 AM  
I like this one a bit more. (pops)

Gotta love Cale, man.

 
BonesJackson 2008-03-09 04:57:54 AM  
Maybe a Cale fan can help me out. On Vintage Violence, is the song "Ghost Story" supposed to cut out abruptly halfway through a measure? I love that album, and particularly that song, but I have to say, that abrupt stop bugs me. I'm almost hoping I just have a defective copy.

 
bikerdiva [TotalFark] 2008-03-09 05:34:37 AM  
I will sue you for silence.
/Happy Birthday! Love Songs for Drella!!!
//Get off my obscure musical lawn!

 
bikerdiva [TotalFark] 2008-03-09 05:36:38 AM  
BonesJackson: Maybe a Cale fan can help me out. On Vintage Violence, is the song "Ghost Story" supposed to cut out abruptly halfway through a measure? I love that album, and particularly that song, but I have to say, that abrupt stop bugs me. I'm almost hoping I just have a defective copy.


Yummy:
It was seven o'clock in the morning
Too late to handle the day
At home it was only two thirty
The skin on my wrists turning grey

Stood up, wished us good luck
He changed his attitudes twice
The box in the corner shivered in fear
He was tired and hungry for days.

The next year she bought a new stomach
From liverpool made in detroit
Constantly passing old matches
Some sentries and millionaires

Who did? gallagher did
The same old thing every time
Gave up, more empty cups
They were tired and hungry for nights.

It made life a littl e easier
To have holland on the run
It didn't take that long to forget her
My old man and his gun

Rushed out, lions about
Wasting away on advice
A hundred and three, 400 or more
It'll haunt you for the rest of your life

 
BonesJackson 2008-03-09 06:05:36 AM  
I'm talking after all the lyrics. It goes on for about another minute and then cuts out a la "I Want You (She's So Heavy)." Is that how it's supposed to end?

 
DrBenway [TotalFark] 2008-03-09 09:43:03 AM  
Tantamount_To_Treason:

I like this one a bit more. (pops)

Gotta love Cale, man.


Yeah, I was amazed and delighted to stumble across that a few months ago. Pretty remarkable...


Kick-ass version of Venus in Furs

Pretty funny time capsule bit here: Cale on I've Got A Secret after taking part in a marathon performance of Erik Satie's "Vexations."

 
The Dynamite Monkey 2008-03-09 12:03:46 PM  
True Story:

I once got to perform onstage with John Cale.

We did Jonathan Richman's "Pablo Picasso" (the original record of which Cale produced).

He asked me and a friend into the dressing room to show us how to play the song.

I already knew the song. It has one chord.

It still took John 25 minutes to "show" it to us, as he was on another plane of chemical existence at the time and he found the peanut M&M's very distracting. Then when I chuckled at a joke he had made, he INSTANTLY forgot he had made a joke and grabbed me by the throat and screamed "You've got to take me seriously man!" into my face.

We did the song, basically a fifteen minute version in E. Half of that time Cale spent fiddling with my amp and yelling at me to keep soloing.

Four years later I got a chance to have dinner with him. I showed him the pictures of he and I playing.

He said "I asked you to come up and play Pablo Picasso?"

"Yes", I replied.

"Wow", he said "There must have been A LOT OF DRUGS around that night!"

Despite the circumstances of the evening, it was unquestionably the greatest musical privelege I will ever have.

There are more stories from that second night, but they will have to wait for another thread.

 
mrEdude 2008-03-09 01:33:50 PM  
Yes Ghost Story cuts out at the end,

but I never had the vinyl of that particular album,
so I don't know if it originally flows into another tune instead of cutting off.

Had vinyl of Fear, Paris 1919, The Academy in Peril and of course the Velvets...as well as The Church of Anthrax with Terry Riley.

I love Cale, man, he was as big a musical influence on me as anybody else.

Happy birthday!

 
DrBenway [TotalFark] 2008-03-09 02:01:47 PM  
The Dynamite Monkey:

Awesome story. Got to open for him once on the Sabotage tour, but no interaction with the guy occurred. From everything I know (and as you point out), that can be a real coin-flip in the good news/bad news department.

I just wish there were clips on YouTube or elsewhere of him from the 70's with Chris Spedding in his band. I know they're out there -- there's a snippet of two in a documentary on him that I saw last year.

A crazy bastard genius if ever there was one...

 
The Dynamite Monkey 2008-03-09 03:36:40 PM  
DrBenway: From everything I know (and as you point out), that can be a real coin-flip in the good news/bad news department.

My dinner with him, during which he was completely straight, I found him to be one of the most down to earth, pleasant, articulate, forthright, intelligent, and charming people I had ever met.

It's really the chemicals that released the "Hyde". I haven't met him again since but I bet he's that same great guy all the time as he has been clean for many years.

 
runwhiteyrun06 2008-03-09 04:07:21 PM  
I'm seeing Lou Reed in concert this year so hopefully I can see Cale sometime soon too.


It bugs me how under-rated Cale is. Paris 1919 and Vintage Violence are both great albums.

/Amsterdam, The Endless Plain of Fortune, and Andalucia ftw.

 
Tantamount_To_Treason 2008-03-10 12:24:32 AM  
DrBenway: Tantamount_To_Treason:

I like this one a bit more. (pops)

Gotta love Cale, man.

Yeah, I was amazed and delighted to stumble across that a few months ago. Pretty remarkable...


Kick-ass version of Venus in Furs

Pretty funny time capsule bit here: Cale on I've Got A Secret after taking part in a marathon performance of Erik Satie's "Vexations."


Venus in Furs is really incomparable. Have you ever heard the version on Animal Serenade?

 
Buttle not Tuttle 2008-03-10 12:37:36 AM  
Whoa, I'm late - how did I miss a John Cale thread???

This song with Brian Eno picks me up when I'm feeling down. Goes nicely with the video too.

 
Third_Uncle_Eno 2008-03-10 12:49:24 AM  
BoneMonkey
Maybe a Cale fan can help me out. On Vintage Violence, is the song "Ghost Story" supposed to cut out abruptly halfway through a measure? I love that album, and particularly that song, but I have to say, that abrupt stop bugs me. I'm almost hoping I just have a defective copy.
I'm talking after all the lyrics. It goes on for about another minute and then cuts out a la "I Want You (She's So Heavy)." Is that how it's supposed to end?



Yes. I have both the CD and the Vinyl. It cuts off at the exact same spot, and is followed with a second or two or silence then "Fairweather Friend" starts. I think it's a spooky ending. Very effective.

 
Third_Uncle_Eno 2008-03-10 01:00:01 AM  
Buttle the Tuttle

This song with Brian Eno picks me up when I'm feeling down. Goes nicely with the video too.


Wow. thank you very much for that link! that's a second great song i've heard from that Eno/Cale album [Wrong Way Up]. Me thinks I should finally pick up that disc. They both have great distinctive voices... and neat musical values... awesome.

I like both Cale and Eno, but have heard more Eno than Cale. Both have [perhaps?] underrated 70's output. ie. Everybody [ie. article/review writers] mention "Another Green World" but they almost never mention "Taking Tiger" or "Before and After Science". Sometimes they mention "Here comes the warm jets" tho.
The only Cale LP's i have are "Vintage Violence", "Sabotage Live", and "Words for the Dying". Also "June 1, 1974".
I used to have "Church of Anthrax" Cale w/ Terry Riley.

 
Third_Uncle_Eno 2008-03-10 01:00:47 AM  
is that Andy Summers [the police] on Guitar in Subby's clip?

 
DrBenway [TotalFark] 2008-03-10 08:06:38 AM  
The Dynamite Monkey:

It's really the chemicals that released the "Hyde". I haven't met him again since but I bet he's that same great guy all the time as he has been clean for many years.

Yeah, you're probably right, especially regarding the "crazy" part. I've had the impression he can still be more than a little difficult to work with, though, drugs or no drugs. But hey, he's John Cale. He gets to be as difficult as he damn well pleases.


Tantamount_To_Treason:

Venus in Furs is really incomparable. Have you ever heard the version on Animal Serenade?

No! Must investigate. I've seen other versions, but that one I linked was particularly great, to my ears anyway.


Third_Uncle_Eno:

is that Andy Summers [the police] on Guitar in Subby's clip?

Indeed it is. Ollie Halsell is the other guitarist. He was a good one, too.

 
clownyclownzomby 2008-03-10 03:49:10 PM  
Ollie Halsall lived another eleven years, touring mostly with Kevin Ayers. Many people don't realize that he wrote and played guitar for the Rutles and provided the voice for Eric Idle. He appears briefly in the film as Leppo. One of the greats.

 
DrBenway [TotalFark] 2008-03-10 09:44:34 PM  
clownyclownzomby:

Ollie Halsall lived another eleven years, touring mostly with Kevin Ayers. Many people don't realize that he wrote and played guitar for the Rutles and provided the voice for Eric Idle. He appears briefly in the film as Leppo. One of the greats.


My first exposure to him was via the Ayers-Cale-Eno-Nico "June 1, 1974" album. Never got to see him play in person. YouTube to the rescue...

 
Tantamount_To_Treason 2008-03-12 12:51:58 AM  
DrBenway: The Dynamite Monkey:

Tantamount_To_Treason:

Venus in Furs is really incomparable. Have you ever heard the version on Animal Serenade?

No! Must investigate. I've seen other versions, but that one I linked was particularly great, to my ears anyway.


The version you linked was fantastic -- the one I mentioned was the first one I heard. Animal Serenade is on iTunes as "Animal [Live]" but you can get the CD for the same price. Really worthwhile if you dig Reed's stuff.

Has a great version of Street Hassle, too.

 
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