I want mandatory drug testing for all elected officals and all corporate officers. People in positions of authority need to be clear headed at all times, right? And if they've got nothing to hide then they should support the measure - isn't that what our leaders always tell us?

So write your congressman! make drug testing for all elected officals (at all levels of government) *mandatory*!

Is this the local school district of Dangling Participleburg?

F

fail

Because testing kids for what they do off school grounds is totally legitimate and legal...

Parents are just happy to not have to fork out the 50 bucks and to have the school do their dirty work.

Saying no to a young blode haired, blue eyed female teacher who wants to fark you? I'd fail that test too.

but I studied all weekend, I can't believe I failed!

Will they be forced to write headlines that don't end in a preposition?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Winner

all this drug testing of students sure has stopped the use of drugs. therefore if we test every single person, we'd win the war on drugs in a week. we should start with the entire bush clan!

I hope it's not the same grammar test that subby just failed.

/prepositions FTW!!11!

What does it take to get a thread approved here? A beauty show pageant with the participants wearing clothing made of condoms fails, but this crap gets approved?

subby:

School district considers adding one more standard test that students are bound to fail at

... at which students are bound to fail.

That English test got by you, eh subby?

donutbandit: What does it take to get a thread approved here? A beauty show pageant with the participants wearing clothing made of condoms fails, but this crap gets approved?

You'll get over it

xjennxiferx

Because testing kids for what they do off school grounds is totally legitimate and legal...

That comment is so dumb, it's offensive. First, TFA said it's a voluntary thing ("Some parents say they welcome a proposal to voluntarily test their children for drugs, saying the effort will help prevent drug abuse"), meaning the parents can elect to have their kids tested or choose not to. Second, as a minor you are not a full legal person and are largely subject to the will of your parents, including if they want to get you drug-tested. (If the school wants to be a means to that end, so be it.) Third, whether it happened on school grounds or not is irrelevant. At this point in time, drugs are illegal for any person at any time in any place in the US, with the tiny exception of the medicinal-marijuana controversy; if your parents get you drug-tested and you come up positive, your ass is toast.

Kids who use drugs are going to find a way to use them regardless of whether or not their parents know.

There could definitely be something more useful done with that 12K.

The Grinch: ... if your parents get you drug-tested and you come up positive, your ass is toast.

That comment is so dumb, it's offensive.

/Dangling Participle?

no stoner left behind!

In Detroit? They must be joking. Those school officials must be a product of the Detroit school system if they seriously considered this. Standardized tests are bullshiat. If anything we need less of those nationwide.

Shadow Blasko: You'll get over it

No, I'll just figure out what I already suspect - that the screeners are asshats who favor their buds, or that they are jealous because they didn't find it first. I have seen so much un-Farkable stuff posted here that it makes me puke. Maybe Drew has sold out to Google and is just a figment of our imaginations.

ImpromptuRhymes

The Grinch: ... if your parents get you drug-tested and you come up positive, your ass is toast.

That comment is so dumb, it's offensive.

Think it through. If your parents bothered to drag you to a clinic to get tested, and you come up positive, they aren't going to be the type of parents that will just blow it off. At the very least you'd be in serious trouble with them; at worst, they'd turn your little ass over to the cops, along with the positive drug test results.

Hey subby, nice way to end a sentence.

Douche.

At? Seriously?

I'm for it. It will put LSD back on the main menu.

The Grinch:
Think it through. If your parents bothered to drag you to a clinic to get tested, and you come up positive, they aren't going to be the type of parents that will just blow it off. At the very least you'd be in serious trouble with them; at worst, they'd turn your little ass over to the cops, along with the positive drug test results.

And what the hell are the cops going to do? Lecture you about why you shouldn't be smoking pot?
Or at very worst try to get the name of whoever sold you the stuff. And if you aren't a complete jackass, you won't talk.

The Grinch

All of this you said... This makes it *legal* to test kids in school?

No, thought not.

You still haven't discounted anything I said. You only pointed out why you, personally, believe it's okay for kids to be drug tested in school. Despite the fact that drugs are illegal, I do not believe the school has the right to do the parents' dirty work for them, wasting tax-payer money on parents who are too lazy to parent their own children, and consider this to be a perfectly logical, legal and legitimate course of action.

Call me farking crazy.

Weaver95: I want mandatory drug testing for all elected officals and all corporate officers.

I agree, and anyone who doesn't test positive for weed, should be fired.

Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2008-03-08 07:37:26 PM
I want mandatory drug testing for all elected officals and all corporate officers. People in positions of authority need to be clear headed at all times, right?

Id go half-way with that, and say that the schools should require all teachers, admin staff, and everyone else who works with the kids, to be tested the same. Whats good enough for the students is good enough for the teachers too. For that matter, everyone the whole way upto the 'superintendant' should be drug tested. After all, if one student has a drug 'problem' it affects one persons learning, if a teacher has a drug 'problem' it affects the whole class.

/problem = hard drug addiction, not an occaisonal joint
//not that the test will tell the difference, unfortunately

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: In Detroit? They must be joking. Those school officials must be a product of the Detroit school system if they seriously considered this. Standardized tests are bullshiat. If anything we need less of those nationwide.

So, you just didn't bother to read TFA, right?

ImpromptuRhymes

The Grinch:
Think it through. If your parents bothered to drag you to a clinic to get tested, and you come up positive, they aren't going to be the type of parents that will just blow it off. At the very least you'd be in serious trouble with them; at worst, they'd turn your little ass over to the cops, along with the positive drug test results.

And what the hell are the cops going to do? Lecture you about why you shouldn't be smoking pot?
Or at very worst try to get the name of whoever sold you the stuff. And if you aren't a complete jackass, you won't talk.

Welcome to America. Being under the influence of marijuana is a crime. A drug-test report showing an appreciable amount in your system is proof. Depending on your age and criminal history, you could be looking at anything from a fine to jail time. So yes, the cops will lecture you... and then they'll arrange your court date. On top of all that, you could also lose your job if word gets to your employer.

xjennxiferx: The Grinch

All of this you said... This makes it *legal* to test kids in school?

No, thought not.

You still haven't discounted anything I said. You only pointed out why you, personally, believe it's okay for kids to be drug tested in school. Despite the fact that drugs are illegal, I do not believe the school has the right to do the parents' dirty work for them, wasting tax-payer money on parents who are too lazy to parent their own children, and consider this to be a perfectly logical, legal and legitimate course of action.

Call me farking crazy.

Hi Farking Crazy!

/sorry, backs away slowly

*Laughs* Hey, I thought that was pretty damn funny.

xjennxiferx: The Grinch

All of this you said... This makes it *legal* to test kids in school?
[...]
Call me farking crazy.

Hi, farking crazy. I wonder if you've ever played a high-school sport. What they do every spring is have an approved doctor come in to give physicals for athletes that are looking to compete the following year, if the student is too busy or poor to have a regular doctor do it. Completely elective, of course, depending on the parents' wishes. It also sounds a hell of a lot like what this school wants to do with drug tests. There's your precedent. Not a far leap at all.

The Grinch:... and then they'll arrange your court date. On top of all that, you could also lose your job if word gets to your employer.

Are you serious!? So these parents want to turn their kids in to the police?

xjennxiferx: The Grinch

All of this you said... This makes it *legal* to test kids in school?

No, thought not.

You still haven't discounted anything I said. You only pointed out why you, personally, believe it's okay for kids to be drug tested in school. Despite the fact that drugs are illegal, I do not believe the school has the right to do the parents' dirty work for them, wasting tax-payer money on parents who are too lazy to parent their own children, and consider this to be a perfectly logical, legal and legitimate course of action.



THIS.

The Grinch:

Welcome to America. Being under the influence of marijuana is a crime. A drug-test report showing an appreciable amount in your system is proof. Depending on your age and criminal history, you could be looking at anything from a fine to jail time. So yes, the cops will lecture you... and then they'll arrange your court date. On top of all that, you could also lose your job if word gets to your employer.

Wow, I guess this doesn't appply to Rhode Island law enforcement.

I have heard of NO ONE getting in trouble for using marijuana in the past. Whether the past is three days ago or three years. I know people who got nailed with possession and didn't even get community service.

This is old news and was implemented when I was a senior in HS...10 years ago!

leaving earth for no raisin: So, you just didn't bother to read TFA, right?

Right.

The Grinch

What the hell? Are you trying to equate a physical with your kid being a junkie?

Really?

Jesus christ, farking parent your kids. Tax payers should NOT bear the burden for parents who do not want to villainize themselves enough to just drug test their own damn kids, or better yet, have an open DISCUSSION with their kids on drug usage.

I'm not asking for precedence; I'm asking for a legal argument for why the school should, in ANY circumstances, voluntary or otherwise, be allowed to monitor the behavior of children outside of school grounds.

xjennxiferx: *Laughs* Hey, I thought that was pretty damn funny.

I thought so too, ya know, when I said it

ImpromptuRhymes:

Wow, I guess this doesn't appply to Rhode Island law enforcement.

I have heard of NO ONE getting in trouble for using marijuana in the past. Whether the past is three days ago or three years. I know people who got nailed with possession and didn't even get community service.

Maybe it varies from state to state, but I'm not pulling this out of my ass; my former roommate was expelled and arrested for smoking up in our dorm shower a week into the semester. They had no drugs or paraphernalia, but a positive drug test was enough to convince a judge, and since it was his second or third violation since turning eighteen, he got completely nailed to the wall.

The Grinch: ImpromptuRhymes

The Grinch:
Think it through. If your parents bothered to drag you to a clinic to get tested, and you come up positive, they aren't going to be the type of parents that will just blow it off. At the very least you'd be in serious trouble with them; at worst, they'd turn your little ass over to the cops, along with the positive drug test results.

And what the hell are the cops going to do? Lecture you about why you shouldn't be smoking pot?
Or at very worst try to get the name of whoever sold you the stuff. And if you aren't a complete jackass, you won't talk.

Welcome to America. Being under the influence of marijuana is a crime. A drug-test report showing an appreciable amount in your system is proof. Depending on your age and criminal history, you could be looking at anything from a fine to jail time. So yes, the cops will lecture you... and then they'll arrange your court date. On top of all that, you could also lose your job if word gets to your employer.

You realize you're arguing with a 16 yr old, don't you?

The Grinch:

Maybe it varies from state to state, but I'm not pulling this out of my ass; my former roommate was expelled and arrested for smoking up in our dorm shower a week into the semester. They had no drugs or paraphernalia, but a positive drug test was enough to convince a judge, and since it was his second or third violation since turning eighteen, he got completely nailed to the wall.

Your friend is dumbass. Tell him good job smoking in a dorm shower. What, no great outdoors in California?

Babbs:
You realize you're arguing with a 16 yr old, don't you?

lulz.

Just another case of parents wanting schools to raise their kids for them. Hey parents: why don't you watch what your kids are doing so that you know yourself whether or not they're on drugs. Why should we have to waste the school's time testing them?

Babbs:

You realize you're arguing with a 16 yr old, don't you?

If she's here arguing with me, she's not off smoking weed. Besides, it's pretty damn funny watching a sixteen-year-old try and dance around the fact that she thinks it's a violation of her 'rights' to be drug-tested in school.

ImpromptuRhymes:
Your friend is dumbass. Tell him good job smoking in a dorm shower. What, no great outdoors in California?

Thanks, I figured that out for myself, and told him as much the last time I saw him. And, erm, who's in California?

The Grinch:

If she's here arguing with me, she's not off smoking weed. Besides, it's pretty damn funny watching a sixteen-year-old try and dance around the fact that she thinks it's a violation of her 'rights' to be drug-tested in school.

It's pretty funny listening to a pretentious asswipe think he knows everything, too.

And I don't smoke weed, anyway. I just think all of this is a waste of money, twelve grand because some kids want to have a good time for a few hours? Who gives a fark. As long as they aren't driving, why is it anyone's business?

The Grinch: Babbs:

You realize you're arguing with a 16 yr old, don't you?

If she's here arguing with me, she's not off smoking weed. Besides, it's pretty damn funny watching a sixteen-year-old try and dance around the fact that she thinks it's a violation of her 'rights' to be drug-tested in school.

You obviously don't have teenagers. My point was you can't win! So don't even try! Besides, she seems like a pretty smart kid.

The Grinch

So, does it make your argument more valid to discount someone else's just because of their age?

I mean, I'm just curious. It's a relevant inquiry to the discussion. I just want to know at what age my opinion, according to you, stops mattering.

And then I want to know why the opinion of a younger adult would not matter to you, but their drug usage matters so much to you that you'd be willing to spend your tax money on illegally monitoring their habits so that their parents don't have to.

I just like discussions, ya'know?

1. ImpromptuRhymes: You'll get over your 'problems with authority' phase.

2. xjennxiferx: You won't.

3. Babbs: Of course you can win an argument with a teenager. They're essentially puppies; they don't understand reason, but they sure as hell understand a good whack with a newspaper.

Anyway, it's been nice debating you all. 1. Good luck on midterms; 2. go pop in 'Donnie Darko' for the hundredth time; and 3. good luck with that menopause. Grinch out.