Hillary is trying to gain McCain's endorsement.

People who randomly capitalize words.

Hillary's actually really smart. If she doesn't get to be president, she doesn't want Obama to be because he'll probably be a two term-er while McCain probably would only be a one-termer. So, she'd get to run in 4 more years instead of 8. And at the end of the day, creating her "legacy" (*cough* mad power grab) is what's most important to her.

Last weekend my 10 year old daughter asked me why John McCain was on a TV commercial for Hillary.

I had to explain that it was John Glenn endorsing Hillary, not John McCain.

People who read Newsmax?

Didn't Obama win more delegates after the caucus?

And isn't Newsmax a stupid crypto-fascist website?

People who post links from Newsmax?

Those Mindless Republicans are now forcing the Dems to hemorrage $$.

So? It's the primary cycle - the nominee can then do fresh fundraising for the general election, and if it's Obama, that shouldn't be a problem. In fact, it'll be a strength.

How long will the "Smart Democrats" keep their party divided?

ndotseth: How long will the "Smart Democrats" keep their party divided?

As long as it takes to find someone we, you know, actually like. Unlike you "smart republicans" which is an oxymoron.

I wouldn't say "mindless," but the word "scared" seems to fit pretty well.

Obedient is a better word.

cameroncrazy1984: ndotseth: How long will the "Smart Democrats" keep their party divided?

As long as it takes to find someone we, you know, actually like. Unlike you "smart republicans" which is an oxymoron.

You don't like GOBAMA, Thats Racist

Giblet: Hillary is trying to gain McCain's endorsement.

Gain McCain? She'd have to be insane!

/and on a plain in Spain.

Richard Pye: Didn't Obama win more delegates after the caucus?

And isn't Newsmax a stupid crypto-fascist website?

Ah. The old 'kill the messenger' denial strategy.

All this in-fighting is only going to strengthen the democrat party.

Does anyone believe this?

globalwarmingpraiser: cameroncrazy1984: ndotseth: How long will the "Smart Democrats" keep their party divided?

As long as it takes to find someone we, you know, actually like. Unlike you "smart republicans" which is an oxymoron.

You don't like GOBAMA, Thats Racist

Huh?

Snarfangel: Giblet: Hillary is trying to gain McCain's endorsement.

Gain McCain? She'd have to be insane!

/and on a plain in Spain.

Please explain.
This is starting to hurt my brain.

vincentpriceisdead: Hillary's actually really smart. If she doesn't get to be president, she doesn't want Obama to be because he'll probably be a two term-er while McCain probably would only be a one-termer. So, she'd get to run in 4 more years instead of 8. And at the end of the day, creating her "legacy" (*cough* mad power grab) is what's most important to her.

In 4 more years her Senate seat comes up and her bid for the Presidency becomes an up-or-out proposition: she gets the nomination and loses the general, she's out of Washington entirely. She'll have to weigh the consequences of that before she gives it another go.

That and the fact that this campaign may still be fresh in everyone's minds in 2012 and people are going to remember what kind of campaign she ran.

If Hillary wins the nom and then, somehow, the election, I am going to laugh and laugh and laugh at the republicans who voted for her in an attempt to screw the democrats. Then I will cry.

TheGreyPiper: Ah. The old 'kill the messenger' denial strategy.

Historically speaking, it's rarely been safe to be a messenger...

vincentpriceisdead [TotalFark] Quote 2008-03-07 12:39:08 PM
Hillary's actually really smart. If she doesn't get to be president, she doesn't want Obama to be because he'll probably be a two term-er while McCain probably would only be a one-termer. So, she'd get to run in 4 more years instead of 8. And at the end of the day, creating her "legacy" (*cough* mad power grab) is what's most important to her.


I believe that this is her plan.

She is incorrect that.

If she continues on this salt the earth strategy she will never be the democratic nominee again. She will be rejected by the party, I promise.

(Not to mention, if she succeeds in making a black man lose the election, the Dems in 2012 are not going to nominate a woman. They will pick the safest candidate possible after 12 years out of office)

Mindless is anyone who votes for someone they loathe and risks putting that person in the white house. America is this close to being free of Clintonism, and the republicans voting Clinton are risking their own worst nightmare "President Hillary Clinton."

Any republican considering "strategic voting" over the next few contests needs to step into the booth and say those words aloud - "President Hillary Clinton" before deciding to cast that vote. If you can do that, then your soul has long been sucked dry.

Gosling:

That and the fact that this campaign may still be fresh in everyone's minds in 2012 and people are going to remember what kind of campaign she ran.

She'll really be a hagged out old coont by then.

IXI Jim IXI: TheGreyPiper: Ah. The old 'kill the messenger' denial strategy.

Historically speaking, it's rarely been safe to be a messenger...

And yet being an ignorant asshole gets you the Republican nomination. Strange world indeed.

Tyee
All this in-fighting is only going to strengthen the democrat party.

Does anyone believe this?

Your newspaper will look like this for the next month

Front page: Obama and Hillary locked in life or death struggle! 24 hour news stations hiring drunken hobos to fill your every waking hour with analysis of the race!

Page C-17: John McCain: Still running for president

ndotseth: How long will the "Smart Democrats" keep their party divided?

I'll take our current division over the GOP's "Meh...I guess McCain will suffice."

Browncoat: She'll really be a hagged out old coont by then.

she'll still be younger than McCain.

coma: And yet being an ignorant asshole gets you the Republican nomination. Strange world indeed.

Less chance of beheading...

Intolerant people and the Dutch?

odinsposse: Tyee
All this in-fighting is only going to strengthen the democrat party.

Does anyone believe this?

Your newspaper will look like this for the next month

Front page: Obama and Hillary locked in life or death struggle! 24 hour news stations hiring drunken hobos to fill your every waking hour with analysis of the race!

Page C-17: John McCain: Still running for president

Word. By the time the Democratic candidate is decided we are all going to want to know who that crazy old guy is, and why they are letting him talk.

Hobodeluxe: she'll still be younger than McCain.

It's rapidly getting to the point where I'd trust a senile McCain over a Hillary with all her faculties intact.

IXI Jim IXI: coma: And yet being an ignorant asshole gets you the Republican nomination. Strange world indeed.

Less chance of beheading...

More chance of buggery though...

I'd like NewsMix to bring their forum back. That place was more fun than Freeperville on ludes.

ndotseth: How long will the "Smart Democrats" keep their party divided?

it's got little to do with "democrats" and everything to do with a political couple that cares more about their own power than the party or the country.

IXI Jim IXI: Hobodeluxe: she'll still be younger than McCain.

It's rapidly getting to the point where I'd trust a senile McCain over a Hillary with all her faculties intact.

Wait....Hillary has faculties?

Um, record fund raising is hemorrhaging money now?

And they are responsible for keeping the democrats continued drama covered non stop by the media giving them massive amounts of free press. Who the hell is this Joe McCan? I thought the race was between Hillary and Obama?

Fart_Machine: Um, record fund raising is hemorrhaging money now?

All this getting money and spending money is getting them ready to run the country ;)

Poopspasm: Wait....Hillary has faculties?

Crap. Ya got me there.

LOL subby - Obama prints his own currency!!!

Headso: Who the hell is this Joe McCan?

Doesn't he sell shoes?

Who exactly is Mindless?

Easy, people who think they are getting news from NewsMax.

You don't have to say "mindless Republicans." Just "Republicans" will suffice...the rest we know.

Rush is wrong if he thinks getting Republicans to vote for Clinton will give any benefit to McCain in November. If anything, extending the primary season now allows Obama to sharpen his skills and remain in the public eye while McCain won't be doing anything newsworthy until he picks a running mate.

Let's also not forget that the majority of people who vote in the general election will not start paying real attention until about a month (if that) before November 4. This is why sane countries have election campaigns that only last a few weeks or so.

Corydon: Rush is wrong if he thinks getting Republicans to vote for Clinton will give any benefit to McCain in November. If anything, extending the primary season now allows Obama to sharpen his skills and remain in the public eye while McCain won't be doing anything newsworthy until he picks a running mate.

Unless Hillary wins...in which case it won't make a damn bit of difference how Obama's skills are doing.

dittoheads should really pat themselves on the back for weakening their opponent with backhanded tactics. hey it's legal.

I mean they could have allowed the democratic nomination process to take its course and put their best ideas up against the dems best ideas, but this works too.

the dem party will survive this, and if you dittoheads think you're doing your party any favors by tripping up your competition instead of standing up straight and proving you've got the best ideas, think again.

you're using these weak tactics because your position is weak.

/just to get the b..b..buts outta the way, no it's not ok when dems do this either.

Simplest Quantum System Conceivable: Mindless is anyone who votes for someone they loathe and risks putting that person in the white house. America is this close to being free of Clintonism, and the republicans voting Clinton are risking their own worst nightmare "President Hillary Clinton."

Any republican considering "strategic voting" over the next few contests needs to step into the booth and say those words aloud - "President Hillary Clinton" before deciding to cast that vote. If you can do that, then your soul has long been sucked dry.

So... all the Republicans who crossed the line in Texas you consider mindless. Ok.

As for Clinton-ism, the original was too bad, for a stone cold centrist. The Senator? Not so appealing.

As for Clinton-ism, the original wasn't too bad, for a stone cold centrist. The Senator? Not so appealing.

(Edited for coherency.)

Corydon:

Let's also not forget that the majority of people who vote in the general election will not start paying real attention until about a month (if that) before November 4. This is why sane countries have election campaigns that only last a few weeks or so.

QFT
Both parties and the media seriously over-estimate the attention span of the average voter.