TFA:
Woah.

YES WE CAN hire Keanu Reeves to write the news!

$55M is a heck of a lot of money. I wonder how much Hillary spent in February.

And it's from individuals in small aqmounts- that's farking amazing!

I here Scientology also makes a hefty sum.

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vincentpriceisdead: And it's from individuals in small amounts- that's farking amazing!

53% were new donors
90% gave less than $100

That's pretty damned cool.

None of that came from PACs or lobbyists either. The harpy and war nut cannot say the same.

Jubeebee: TFA:
Woah.

YES WE CAN hire Keanu Reeves to write the news!

Won in one. Well done.

/I'm a poet and I didn't even realize that I was.

skinnycatullus: 53% were new donors
90% gave less than $100

That's pretty damned cool.

It is unheard of before this election. Howard Dean had set up something similar to this, but he was raising no where near these numbers.

Well, you get a million people involved and look what happens.

This makes me think that Obama should push for MI and FL to have new primaries in June. That will give Clinton two more big places that she has to spend money on. He'll be able to pour resources into every state, and she'll have to pick her battles. Or he could spend like hell in PA, forcing her to sink lots of money there and not have enough to compete in MI and FL.

Code_Archeologist: Howard Dean had set up something similar to this, but he was raising no where near these numbers.

He would have if he had been running against Hillary.

skinnycatullus: This makes me think that Obama should push for MI and FL to have new primaries in June. That will give Clinton two more big places that she has to spend money on. He'll be able to pour resources into every state, and she'll have to pick her battles. Or he could spend like hell in PA, forcing her to sink lots of money there and not have enough to compete in MI and FL.

God, you're devious. Awesome.

Well I farked that all up.

Money, get back.
Im all right jack, keep your hands off of my stack.

I just don't understand how erasing a 15-20% lead to 0-5% lead in a couple weeks and limiting Hillary Clinton's gains to four (4!) delegates translates to a monumental loss to Obama and that he should drop out of the race for the good of the party.

I'm not an Obamaniac, but it sickens me to see Clinton acting so downright Rovian in her campaign, appealing to the absolute worst qualities in people and using fear to get her way.

Anyone claiming that it's naïve to not play dirty politics because everyone else does it, you're the problem. Candidates will only play dirty politics as long as it works. If we as a nation refuse to tolerate mudslinging as a platform, actually call candidates on it, and in turn start costing them elections for doing it, then they'll have to think twice before doing it again.

Good cause us Obamaites are going to buy a small country and name it the People's Republic of Rainbows and move there if Hillary gets the nomination.

/I've paid about 100 bucks in salvation. How about you?

#1 non-TF comment!

This is great news -- whether Obama wins or not, he's done a tremendous favor for all candidates in the future by finally doing something to get more Americans interested in the political process. There's no downside whatsoever to Obama's candidacy.

DarnoKonrad: Good cause us Obamaites are going to buy a small country and name it the People's Republic of Rainbows and move there if Hillary gets the nomination.

/I've paid about 100 bucks in salvation. How about you?

*Shakes fist*

GWLush: TheCoreSoldierhere --> core

Posting that doesn't make any of your comments less stupid.

Maybe not, but it was mildly amusing, you have to hand it to him/his wife.

cameroncrazy1984: Well, you get a million people involved and look what happens.

50-state strategy in action. When you engage every state as if it was just as important as the last you energize voters, attract more donations, and force your opponent to follow your lead. This year I think we will see the death of the "Big-State" strategy where only a few states were focused on in order to win just enough electoral votes to win.

TheConvincingSavant: here --> core

It's alright. TCS is taking it back.

gundamtsubasa: I just don't understand how erasing a 15-20% lead to 0-5% lead in a couple weeks and limiting Hillary Clinton's gains to four (4!) delegates translates to a monumental loss to Obama and that he should drop out of the race for the good of the party.

I'm not an Obamaniac, but it sickens me to see Clinton acting so downright Rovian in her campaign, appealing to the absolute worst qualities in people and using fear to get her way.

Anyone claiming that it's naïve to not play dirty politics because everyone else does it, you're the problem. Candidates will only play dirty politics as long as it works. If we as a nation refuse to tolerate mudslinging as a platform, actually call candidates on it, and in turn start costing them elections for doing it, then they'll have to think twice before doing it again.

Isn't the fact that Obama has been erasing 20 point leads in a couple of weeks by remaining positive show that we, as a nation, have lost some of our tolerance for mudslinging?

Doesn't the success of his campaign and John McCain's campaign show that the Clinton/Rovian styles of attack politics are on their way out?

Obama should dish out six million to sponsor a new Florida primary. With that much money he can be pretty creative about driving Hillary to totally lose her shiat.

Jubeebee: Doesn't the success of his campaign and John McCain's campaign show that the Clinton/Rovian styles of attack politics are on their way out?

Heh. Haha. Right.

moriarty23: Obama should dish out six million to sponsor a new Florida primary. With that much money he can be pretty creative about driving Hillary to totally lose her shiat.

He's actually suggested that very option before, though I think he was talking about Michigan

No wonder he's been able to buy so many super delegates lately.

moriarty23

I was going to say the same thing. Invite Clinton to go half way in sponsoring both a Florida and Michigan do-over. He'll look like a classy hero and drain some of Clinton's dwindling funds.

Code_Archeologist: cameroncrazy1984: Well, you get a million people involved and look what happens.

50-state strategy in action. When you engage every state as if it was just as important as the last you energize voters, attract more donations, and force your opponent to follow your lead. This year I think we will see the death of the "Big-State" strategy where only a few states were focused on in order to win just enough electoral votes to win.

The gorram truth. As a moderate-lefty in Kansas, I've had jack squat of nothing to say in who's in the Executive branch for my whole life. Most years, the Democrats don't even hold caucuses in Kansas. This year, a Democratic candidate came to Kansas, asked for support from moderate-lefty Kansans, and my credit card got all moist between the legs.

skinnycatullus: This makes me think that Obama should push for MI and FL to have new primaries in June. That will give Clinton two more big places that she has to spend money on. He'll be able to pour resources into every state, and she'll have to pick her battles. Or he could spend like hell in PA, forcing her to sink lots of money there and not have enough to compete in MI and FL.

it already is working out that way, more or less. she's spinning her victories in "big states" so hard because honestly, they are the only states she has a chance to win. they're the only states she's campaigning in. and his delegate lead is in part a direct result of this.

she can win all the big states she wants, he'll gladly take huge margins in the rest and bury her in the electoral math.

Seems to me that it would be possible to run as an independent if need be with this kind of draw.

moriarty23: Obama should dish out six million to sponsor a new Florida primary. With that much money he can be pretty creative about driving Hillary to totally lose her shiat.

Outside of the fact that this would be literally buying an election, I'm all for it.

/This primary has been brought to you by Barack Obama.
//Obama. Look for it on a ballot near you.

by the way, i think clinton's non-50-state strategy is telling of about how much "experience" she has.

that might work wonderfully in the general election, where there are some states you know you can just count off for a loss. but this isn't the general election, this is the primaries. you are only dealing with the democrats in each state, no matter how small a percentage of the state demographics they might be. each state is a valid campaign stop in the primaries.

so much experience that she has no idea what she's doing.

Clinton spin for the evening: "If Obama was so popular, he would have doubled our fundraising. He was $5 million short of that. His support is fading fast!"

Obama should give everyone free totalfark for the year...

Jubeebee: Doesn't the success of his campaign and John McCain's campaign show that the Clinton/Rovian styles of attack politics are on their way out?

I can't make a judgment on that until I see what the candidates do during the general election. I do think that some of the tolerance for it has been erased, but it's sad that it's still working enough (see Clinton's mostly unsubstantiated/taken out of context barrage of mud days before the primaries in Ohio and Texas) to fool so many undecided voters.

Pompatus: Outside of the fact that this would be literally buying an election, I'm all for it.

Heh. Obama! Often imitated, never duplicated. Except no substitute!

A little off topic, but ccn ran a video showing a person working for a precinct in texas leaving with numerous sign in sheets with votes for Obama along with the signatures of those voters on them.

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skinnycatullus: vincentpriceisdead: And it's from individuals in small amounts- that's farking amazing!

53% were new donors
90% gave less than $100

That's pretty damned cool.

That is why the party is split. There is the Clinton/Big Business camp that do not think it is cool, and there is the Dean/Obama camp that really believe the party has to be revitalized in order to be successful for this next generation. I sent my next $100 in.

gundamtsubasa: Jubeebee: Doesn't the success of his campaign and John McCain's campaign show that the Clinton/Rovian styles of attack politics are on their way out?

I can't make a judgment on that until I see what the candidates do during the general election. I do think that some of the tolerance for it has been erased, but it's sad that it's still working enough (see Clinton's mostly unsubstantiated/taken out of context barrage of mud days before the primaries in Ohio and Texas) to fool so many undecided voters.

Voters that are still undecided at this point can and should be manipulated in any way. There's no excuse outside of laziness or stupidity to explain why a voter hasn't made a decision.

Pompatus: moriarty23: Obama should dish out six million to sponsor a new Florida primary. With that much money he can be pretty creative about driving Hillary to totally lose her shiat.

Outside of the fact that this would be literally buying an election, I'm all for it.

A better idea would be to offer up $6 Million (three for Florida and three for Michigan) to fund a re-vote for both of their states; and challenge Hillary to match him.

Hillary doesn't want a re-vote in either state because she has claimed those tainted delegates as hers (even the ones in Michigan where she was nearly beaten by "undecided"). She knows that if Obama is given the chance to campaign and unleash his organization in Michigan and Florida she may not lose them out right but she will not receive the same delegate advantage she enjoys at both.

Along the same lines Howard Dean has made it very clear he is not going to seat Michigan and Florida unless they do a re-vote. So Hillary is going to try to leave them in her back pocket and press for them to seated at the convention giving her a sudden infusion of delegates and an argument to get superdelegates to side with her.

If Obama challenges her to match him in funding a re-vote in Michigan and Florida... it is a lose-lose proposition for her. If she refuses she will lose any political leverage she may have had. If she agrees she loses her ace in the hole.

And yes people vote for the biatch.

:sigh:

Code_Archeologist: A better idea would be to offer up $6 Million (three for Florida and three for Michigan) to fund a re-vote for both of their states; and challenge Hillary to match him.

That's a pretty brilliant idea. Is it legal, though?

/quick and dirty with MS Paint...

gundamtsubasa: Jubeebee: Doesn't the success of his campaign and John McCain's campaign show that the Clinton/Rovian styles of attack politics are on their way out?

I can't make a judgment on that until I see what the candidates do during the general election. I do think that some of the tolerance for it has been erased, but it's sad that it's still working enough (see Clinton's mostly unsubstantiated/taken out of context barrage of mud days before the primaries in Ohio and Texas) to fool so many undecided voters.

Old habits die hard. Think of all the attacks she's thrown at him since this whole business started, and it's taken until now for anything to have an effect on him.

The thing about her latest round of mudslinging is, as you said, it's mostly unsubstantiated and out of context. It's all refutable, especially with the amount of money he has to spend. The reason why it was effective was she threw so much of it in such a short span of time, that there just wasn't enough airtime to get clear of it.

But TX/OH were her firewall states. She threw everything she had at him for a 4 delegate gain. She's already written off Wyoming and Mississippi, and there's a long time until PA. That's a long time for Obama's people to systematically dismantle all of her attacks, something they can do by simply presenting the facts, exposing Clinton's duplicity and then letting her baggage and doublespeak bury her.

DamnYankees: Code_Archeologist: A better idea would be to offer up $6 Million (three for Florida and three for Michigan) to fund a re-vote for both of their states; and challenge Hillary to match him.

That's a pretty brilliant idea. Is it legal, though?

Perfectly legal. There is no limit to how much can be donated to a political party (that is the reason why the RNC is still the best funded of the two).

DamnYankees: Code_Archeologist: A better idea would be to offer up $6 Million (three for Florida and three for Michigan) to fund a re-vote for both of their states; and challenge Hillary to match him.

That's a pretty brilliant idea. Is it legal, though?

Why not? It's their party's nomination, not the actual election.

I would like to take this time to post this for my brother:

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And if he doesn't reach his goal, I may have to unleash Code_Archeologist's flashing hypnotic Obama head!

Code_Archeologist: DamnYankees: Code_Archeologist: A better idea would be to offer up $6 Million (three for Florida and three for Michigan) to fund a re-vote for both of their states; and challenge Hillary to match him.

That's a pretty brilliant idea. Is it legal, though?

Perfectly legal. There is no limit to how much can be donated to a political party (that is the reason why the RNC is still the best funded of the two).

And a bunch of those RNC farkers are about to go to jail for "accounting irregularities". There are literally millions missing from the national coffers. That money may have been going illegally to specific campaigns.