eqtworld: /except for the active duty military veteran part

And the kids in active military duty part.

What's this guy's point, except that rarely do the best leaders wind up getting elected, anywhere?

John McCain isn't some Olympian hero

Yeah, his performance on the parallel bars is especially disappointing.

Donald_McRonald: Yeah, his performance on the parallel bars is especially disappointing.

Probably because he can't put his arms above his head.

Failed campaigns? How many times has he been elected Senator?

Tell us about your glorious life, Mr. Preston.

So the guy served honorably in the military, got captured and held for a few years and tortured, has been serving as a Senator with out any scandals? And his son serves in the military?
Yes I can see why the democrats hate this guy??????
// Oh wait ... there was that picture of him and President Bush that must be it.

what about that Keating thing? That worked out pretty well... for him that is.

Bartman66: has been serving as a Senator with out any scandals?

Keating 5.

How the fark is Obama "brave"?

SomeCapn: what about that Keating thing? That worked out pretty well... for him that is.

Someone on NPR described it as his hand grazing the cookie jar.

has been serving as a Senator with out any scandals?

Err...

Anyway, yeah, personally I think all three of the remaining candidates suck to some extent, just in markedly different ways. But, hell, most people are "just bastard covered bastards with bastard filling", and politicians aren't known for their general superiority. Lets pick the least bastard-ish one and get on with it.

dervish16108: Bartman66: has been serving as a Senator with out any scandals?

Keating 5.

"he Ethics Committee concluded that Glenn's and McCain's involvement in the scheme was minimal.[1] The committee recommended censure for Cranston and criticized the other four for "questionable conduct."
(wiki)

That's not enough to discredit his life.

nukeim: Probably because he can't put his arms above his head.

Yeah, his performance on the rings is especially sub-par.

FTFA: And so, as the shouting dies down along the trail to Pennsylvania, what are we left with? A famous septuagenarian, whipped by Bush and Rove in 1980.

1980?

You know who else ran as a war veteran?

/Dole and Kerry

Bartman66: So the guy served honorably in the military, got captured and held for a few years and tortured, has been serving as a Senator with out any scandals? And his son serves in the military?
Yes I can see why the democrats hate this guy??????
// Oh wait ... there was that picture of him and President Bush that must be it.

I don't think most Democrats "hate" him just like I don't think most Republicans "hate" Obama. That's why I'd like to see a match-up between these two - once Hillary's out of the race, we'll have an election featuring candidates people are voting FOR rather than AGAINST.

But he'll win in a landslide because every Democrat that claimed Kerry's experience as a "war veteran" made Kerry uniquely qualified to be president will now vote for McCain.

FTA

It's a terrific show and first-class entertainment, sure enough, but are those who remain, remotely the best?

No. We don't have a parliamentary system, where the best of each ideology gets a shot at leadership, leaving only one of the best of a particularly ideology.

Our leaders are jacks-of-all-trades. Leaders of 2 parties, that have to cover all the bases you Europeans divided between a 1000 different parties.

Hang On Voltaire: How the fark is Obama "brave"?

i double checked the thread.

no one mentioned obama but you and Spanky_McFarksalot with the picture.

Spanky_McFarksalot

Didn't bother to read TFA as usual eh?

Wait... divorcing the wife who waited for you while you were a prisoner of war so you can get a rich blond hottie, who you then cheat on with a lobbyist blond hottie, isn't a sign of great personal quality?

Bartman66: So the guy has been serving as a Senator with out any scandals?

Fail.

DarnoKonrad: Spanky_McFarksalot

Didn't bother to read TFA as usual eh?

Yeah I did and I notice the comment pulled out, put into a headline and greenlighted.

Donald_McRonald: nukeim: Probably because he can't put his arms above his head.

Yeah, his performance on the rings is especially sub-par.

He'll get all those lost points back in the swimsuit competition, though.

So.. we should be voting for Mary Lou Retton?

At some point in the campaign, I fully expect McCain to say he'll follow Obama to the gates of Hell.

Spanky_McFarksalot: DarnoKonrad: Spanky_McFarksalot

Didn't bother to read TFA as usual eh?

Yeah I did and I notice the comment pulled out, put into a headline and greenlighted.

Yea. It's not news. It's Fark.

McCain would make an awesome curler.

/my friends, hurry hard!

McCain underwent years of torture without breaking, and yet, he's displayed an eagerness to sacrifice his principles (including his anti-torture stance) to score political points.

John McCain: strong against the North Vietnamese, weak against the special interests.

Also, he looks like a clammy mass of foreskin.

Ahh another Bridiot chiming in on the American elections. From the toiletbowl that is the Guardian, to boot. That just reeks of credibility.

did anybody actually RTFA? he's basically saying they have a lack of experience (both Dem and Rep) and the people running are just the last ones standing, not necessarily making them the most qualified.

oh yeah, this is Fark...RTFA is optional at best...

Dorf11: McCain would make an awesome curler.

Well, curling is essentially shuffleboard on ice, so maybe you're onto something.

What this country needs in 2012 is a president that can't turn on a computer and has no idea how the economy works.

burndtdan: no one mentioned obama but you and Spanky_McFarksalot with the picture

Did you RTFA?...oh wait...that's only a question some get asked...

He helped run all those savings and loans into the ground back in the 80's, so that's something.

Why does this article show a picture of a Special Olympics hero dressed in a suit?

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: What this country needs in 2012 is a president that can't turn on a computer and has no idea how the economy works.

Ron Paul!

John McCain is the king of double-talk and hypocrisy.

He hands out favors to his buddies and then preaches about ethics.

He wants to reform campaigning and then wants to break the rules he himself put into place.

He criticizes the war when it's doing bad, and adopts it as his own when it starts going better.

He going to stand on the national security platform in the general election, but said he would have started a drawn out war in the middle east even if he knew there were no WMDs.

He was against the Bush tax cuts before he was in favor of them.

He claims to be the "maverick," the "outsider," and blasts lobbyist influence on Washington, then goes to some hotel to bang one of them.

Shall I go on?

Blues_X: Wait... divorcing the wife who waited for you while you were a prisoner of war so you can get a rich blond hottie, who you then cheat on with a lobbyist blond hottie, isn't a sign of great personal quality?


The vast majority of this country doesn't care who their politicians are farking, as long as everyone is a consenting adult (Mark Foley) and it's not blatently hypocrical (Larry Craig).

For evidence I offer Clinton's overwhelmingly high approval rating during the height of the Lewinsky affair.

McCain could be caught in bed with Ted Kennedy, Chris Matthews and the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders, and it would have nothing to do with effectivness as a senator or president.

Hang On Voltaire whipped by Bush and Rove in 1980.

Author meant to say "whipped by Nguyen and Ho in 1970."

You forgot 'gold digging adulterer'. Does anyone really think he would have become a senator were it not for the riches and high society social status he gained through his marriage to his second wife? How about the poor disabled first wife he threw under the bus in order to get to it? Sleazy bastard.

what_now: The vast majority of this country doesn't care who their politicians are farking, as long as everyone is a consenting adult (Mark Foley) and it's not blatently hypocrical (Larry Craig).

So, you had no problems with Giuliani's ethics problems? It doesn't make you nervous that a guy who is willing to ignore his vows to his wife should be given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to a vow to uphold the law?

Shaggy_C: So, you had no problems with Giuliani's ethics problems? It doesn't make you nervous that a guy who is willing to ignore his vows to his wife should be given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to a vow to uphold the law?

In all fairness, you have seen his second wife, right?

Bartman66: So the guy served honorably in the military, got captured and held for a few years and tortured, has been serving as a Senator with out any scandals?

Keating 5, I believe he was involved in the S&L deal.

Blues_X: who you then cheat on with a lobbyist blond hottie, isn't a sign of great personal quality?

Wow, now you are quoting a weak NYT article

Let's ask McGovern, Dukkakis, Dole and Kerry how that whole veteran thing helps them win elections.

Donald_McRonald: In all fairness, you have seen his second wife, right?

Fair enough. His first wife was trophy wife too, well, until she got in a car accident. At that point she had a limp and was 'damaged goods', so even the fact that she waited for him faithfully while he was in 'Nam couldn't keep him committed. Says a lot about someone's character, ya know?

Shaggy_C: So, you had no problems with Giuliani's ethics problems? It doesn't make you nervous that a guy who is willing to ignore his vows to his wife should be given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to a vow to uphold the law?

My problems with Giuliani was that he was an authortarian asshat who fired a sucessful police chief because he was getting more press than Hizzoner, and that he was too stupid to move the command and control center for the country's most important city out of it's second most likely spot for a terrorist attack.

I know plenty of good people who have been divorced, and not being INSIDE THE MARRIAGE, I don't feel it's acceptable to judge someone based on that.

I refuse to judge people I've never met based on thier personal lives.