Shouldn't the words "Family Mexican Restaurant" have tipped off customers?

/I keed
//sort of

Also contained a lot ofark, apparently. And I don't know who Ken is.

The previous low score in Gwinnett County was a 17.

I heard they shut that 9 year olds Lemonade stand down quickly too.

considered risk factors for foodbourne illness

What's the Canadian spelling doing in this article?

mattbin: What's the Canadian spelling doing in this article?

quietly infiltrating, like a polite 5th column

5 minutes from my house

eeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

/never even heard of the restaurant before today

Dude, article has a hidden gem. Look a the addresses of the other two restaurants to be closed-- bottom of the article.

Obdicut: Dude, article has a hidden gem. Look a the addresses of the other two restaurants to be closed-- bottom of the article.

FTA: On the same day Mar Y Tierra restaurant received a failing grade, Tim's Rib Joint at 465 Dacula Road and Fuddruckers at 1915 Scenic Highway also failed.

lol

bulldg4life: 5 minutes from my house

eeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

/never even heard of the restaurant before today

About 5 minutes from me too. Thankfully never eaten at or heard of it either. I think I may have eaten at that Fuddruckers though.

nom nom nom ...

unclebobscircus: Obdicut: Dude, article has a hidden gem. Look a the addresses of the other two restaurants to be closed-- bottom of the article.

FTA: On the same day Mar Y Tierra restaurant received a failing grade, Tim's Rib Joint at 465 Dacula Road and Fuddruckers at 1915 Scenic Highway also failed.

lol

I'm confused.
Explain.

/Please?
//Someone.
///Anyone...

Atlanta is more than an airline hub?

MMmmmm Turds....

mattbin: considered risk factors for foodbourne illness

"He said they wre having small problems..."

An extra U and a missing E.

In one of Penn and Teller's books, they talk about eating in a Japanese place on the ground floor of their building. After biting into something tempura, they watched in horror as a live cockroach came staggering out of the batter shell.

"We still eat there," they wrote.

That must be the most authentic Mexican restaurant in Georgia.

Heh. now just greenlight the story on digg about the atlanta area hotels not cleaning their glasses, and we have ourselves a potential dirty atlanta trifecta.

Did they clean the pigeons out of the water? Make sure Basil doesn't serve the veal.

Gwinnett County is NOT Atlanta.

the first thing i see when the site pops is a waffle house ad! anyone else see this?

And according to the story a Fuddruckers failed too. I was going to visit a buddy in Atlanta just to go to a Fudds because all of the ones in Florida shut down. Damn!

Having read the article, wouldn't the "Sick" tag have been more appropriate than "Scary"?

Not that scary is wrong, just not as accurate.

kidsizedcoffin
Atlanta is more than an airline hub?

I guess we can't all be fortunate enough to live in Columbus OH
/been there
//glad I'm here

Whilst in Edmonton I ordered take out from Szechuan Castle.

What I got was a foil dish full of chicken, almonds, carrots, broccoli, maggots and some sort of potato.

My neighbour at the hotel ordered from Columbus Pizza and Donair prior and received his slice of coconut cream pie complete with mealworms.

I no longer order takeout in Edmonton.

ATLien: kidsizedcoffin
Atlanta is more than an airline hub?

I guess we can't all be fortunate enough to live in Columbus OH
/been there
//glad I'm here

I guess I was thinking more of futurama, but I will do little to defend columbus.

Futurama referred to Atlanta as a delta hub. The lost city of Atlanta.

If you want authentic mexican food you have to be able to deal with unsanitary (by american standards) kitchens.

My dad found a cigarette butt in the salsa at the one we used to go to. Emphasis on used..

Jargon Filter: If you want authentic mexican food you have to be able to deal with unsanitary (by american standards) kitchens.

My dad found a cigarette butt in the salsa at the one we used to go to. Emphasis on used..

When I lived on Ohio State campus, we had a fairly authentic mexican resaurant a few doors down, and the Viking across the street, they always gave us good service. Of course they knew that we had access to their dumpsters, and thus access to their future health inspection records. My house, and my father before me.

I think I've eaten at that Fuddruckers.

/not sick
//not dead

I used to work in a Wal-Mart deli.

The place is graded on a "green, yellow, red flag" basis by Kay Chemicals once a month. (Most supermarkets and fast-food resturants use them instead of the actual Health Department, I found out later.)

Before I went there, the place would normally score one red and a bunch of yellows. Me and the rest of the night shift team--a combined college student, former paralegal, professional line cook and Navy petty officer--decided to make the place spin and span, so we scrubbed down the entire deli and bullied the other shifts into cleaning up after themselves.

We got all green flags. Nine days after Kay Chemicals came, and on my two days off, a rep from the Wal-Mart headquarters came and "found" moldy cheese in the cheese compartment. We were never shown the cheese nor shown the reports of what was wrong with the deli, just that we would have gotten a red flag for it.

Eleven days after that, the region manager came to our deli and told us that we needed to double our stock of fried chickens, and that we were getting in new stoves to make newer, "healthier" food to sell to the public.

This doubled our workload to an unbearable point. A month after the inspection, I quit. The Navy chief left two days after, the line cook two weeks after that, and the paralegal stuck it out for two more months with a different crew.

I went in there in December. The newer machines are gone. The floors were unswept. I have no doubt the sanitation has gone back to one red flag, barely passing.

I bring this whole thing up to make a point: resturants run for profit have no incentive to be sterile, nor do they have incentive to hire and keep people who understand kitchen sanitation.

P.S. Scrubbing your hands for at least 20 seconds in warm water will kill most bacteria and viruses you can name.

ukiah: Shouldn't the words "Family Mexican Restaurant" have tipped off customers?

/I keed
//sort of

You'd think they could find some Mexicans to clean the place.

Danger Avoid Death: You'd think they could find some Mexicans to clean the place.

After they finish cutting the grass.

JmBa: bulldg4life: 5 minutes from my house

eeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

/never even heard of the restaurant before today

About 5 minutes from me too. Thankfully never eaten at or heard of it either. I think I may have eaten at that Fuddruckers though.

I too live about 5 minutes from that place and I ate at that Fuddruckers last week.

I'm still alive so I guess I'm good . . .

Valarius: I bring this whole thing up to make a point: resturants run for profit have no incentive to be sterile, nor do they have incentive to hire and keep people who understand kitchen sanitation.

Um, aren't all restaurants, like any business, run for profit. :)

I think you meant restaurants run to produce cheap, low quality food for a profit. A good restaurant wants to bring customers back by serving good quality food for a reasonable price.

Killing customers with food poisoning doesn't aid that.

unclebobscircus: Obdicut: Dude, article has a hidden gem. Look a the addresses of the other two restaurants to be closed-- bottom of the article.

FTA: On the same day Mar Y Tierra restaurant received a failing grade, Tim's Rib Joint at 465 Dacula Road and Fuddruckers at 1915 Scenic Highway also failed.

lol

Wow... my friend works at that fuddruckers. That explains a lot.

Valarius:(Most supermarkets and fast-food resturants use them instead of the actual Health Department, I found out later.)

Yep, that's true. First place I worked was a fast food restaurant back when I was in high school. Was a lot of fun, actually, great people there, work wasn't so bad...anyway.

Cleanliness was actually far, far better than the places I worked after (doing everything from being a fry cook at a cheaper place, to a sous-chef later on). Especially at the nicer places, people would tend to make fun of the fast food places as being the dives, but that never seemed to be the case to me. There's exceptions, of course, but the one I worked at was spotless because we cleaned as much as we cooked and had fairly stringent rules on how things needed to be; rules that privately owned places don't generally have unless their proprietors are anal about it.

All that aside, and on topic of the article at hand... it sounds like a lot of the mexican places around here. They shoot for authenticity by providing an environment where you'll have the hershey squirts for a week if you drink the water, just like actually being in Mexico.

All these people living five minutes from me. WTF?

I'm in Loganville, shoot me an email if you guys ever wanna hang out.

/hockey at South Gwinnett park on Sunday
//I'll be there all day

captainwil: That explains a lot.

HOLY SHIAT!!!!


WIL?!?!?!?!?!?!

WTF?!?!?!?!?!

/world just got smaller

GWINNETT COUNTY IS NOT ATLANTA.

That is all.

Valarius: P.S. Scrubbing your hands for at least 20 seconds in warm water will kill most bacteria and viruses you can name.

I assume that there's soap involved in this handwashing? I can't name a lot of viruses and bacteria, but I'm pretty sure most are hospitable to warm water.

If you ever decide to eat at a mini-golf place or an arcade, stick to the pre-packaged stuff like microwaved corn dogs and packaged cookies.

Do not, under any circumstances, eat the nacho cheese or the chili. The soft serve ice cream may also be suspect.

I worked evening shift at one of those places for about a month and a half. I rigorously observed all the sanitation procedures required, but many of them involve effort that you KNOW most teenagers are not going to put in.

The nacho cheese pump thing has to be disassembled and cleaned out with bottle brushes (incidentally, the cheese is put in the fridge and reused. Ditto on the chili).

The soft serve machine has to be partially disassembled (the ice cream is pushed out by what is basically a horizontal corkscrew blade. All parts washed in soap and hot water, the melted ice cream drained out (put into a 5 gal. bucket and refrigerated for reuse. When new it came in cartons like milk), and the machine put through a wash cycle involving two complete pass-throughs with clean water and big chlorine tablets.

What do you want to bet that most people don't bother to clean any of that equipment as thoroughly as they ought to?

/mastered the art of making Oreo shakes with a blade mixer
//harder than it looks

Valarius: I used to work in a Wal-Mart deli.

Good story, etc...

They were afraid it would build a sense of pride and you guys would all unionize. You were being too overt!

/also noticed that if you are a capable person then the box stores do not want you working there.

oren0: Valarius: P.S. Scrubbing your hands for at least 20 seconds in warm water will kill most bacteria and viruses you can name.

I assume that there's soap involved in this handwashing? I can't name a lot of viruses and bacteria, but I'm pretty sure most are hospitable to warm water.

Actually, just rubbing your hands together, with good friction, kills a good amount of stuff. Obviously, soap and water are better, but the temperature of the water doesn't really seem to matter (at least for handwashing). You should scrub your hands with soap and water for at least 15-20 seconds (or the time it takes to sing Happy Birthday at a normal speed).

Alcohol hand sanitizer works the best.

I observed medical asepsis technique when I was visiting my parents in December and they both came down with that horrible cold that was going around. I didn't get sick, in spite of eating at the same table with them for several weeks.

That means being aware of what you touch -- utensils, countertops, faucet knobs, door knobs, even the towel you dry your hands with. Keep your hands away from your mouth, and shut off faucets with a paper towel without touching them with your bare hands (that goes for the bathroom door, too).

GomezAdams: And according to the story a Fuddruckers failed too. I was going to visit a buddy in Atlanta just to go to a Fudds because all of the ones in Florida shut down. Damn!

there's one in the tourist district of orlando. shopping center is called festival bay. i haven't eaten there. it may be cockroach free.

yeah there's a lot of gwinnett people in this thread. just moved to the area, what are some good places to eat?

One of the things about fast-food restaurants: they are designed to be easy to keep clean. They set things up so that morons and people with very little grasp of English can be taught quickly how to keep things up to code. Many non-franchise restaurants are set up in the space they rented with the kitchen laid out in the best way possible. But they are usually designed with speed of service/flow of the food rather than for cleanliness. And their cleaning tools run the gamut while franchises use a standard, approved array of products. So it doesn't surprise me that it would take more effort to keep a family restaurant clean vs a McDonald's.

"Oddly, customers usually asked for seconds."

If you eat at a Mexican restaurant you're eating the feces they've cleaned up in the local high school bathroom hours before.

/I keed
//sort of

Man, I could go for a taco.

Bi Ba's Italian Restaurant is a good place to eat in Gwinnett. I used to go up there for dinner and wine after my DUI classes.

Don't ask for Special #2