om nom nom nom

/nom

So they all taste like chicken, interesting.

The whole point in organics is that there are less chemicals introduced to the food chain... paying a higher premium to theoretically benefit the environment.

Might be better for you, but I don't know.

One thing I do know...

organic milk >> regular milk

That is the only organic food that I regularly buy.

No shiat it tastes like chicken, the whole point is not to also injest a bunch of shiat your body does not need.

plus you're not eating diseased ridden chickens that ate nothing but other crushed up, even less healthy chickens.

Also, organic meat tends to be leaner and healthier for your fat ass!

Organic raised chickens - easy to do at home! Astonish your friends! Kit includes hatchet and chopping block. Ages 6 and older.

osmosis: The whole point in organics is that there are less chemicals introduced to the food chain... paying a higher premium to theoretically benefit the environment.

Not to mention not ingesting the chemicals that farmers pump their chickens full of making their way into our bloodstream.

So wait, people would pay MORE for LESS torture? My mistress has been doing it wrong.

Uh...the point behind eating organic food isn't just because it tastes better (although it often does). The point is to reduce the amount of chemical crapola that goes into the soil and our bodies. It's less cost-effective on the farm/ranch level than factory farming, so it costs more at the consumer end.

Jeez.

I detect much THIS in this thread.

JerkyMeat: No shiat it tastes like chicken, the whole point is not to also injest a bunch of shiat your body does not need.

... which you're not doing anyway thanks to the strict regulations and testing carried out by FDA and USDA. There're very specific withdrawal times so that no residues get into the meat, and vets and producers who violate that get in pretty deep shiat. As for hormones, even if they're there, they're foreign proteins that get broken down in your stomach (which is why Clemens shoots up HGH in his butt rather than taking a pill: it doesn't work orally).

Yes, no system is perfect and there're probably some that slip through. Not nearly as many as the organic nuts want you to believe, however.

As for actual welfare of the animals, that's a whole different issue and I tend more towards agreeing with the free range crowd on that one.

Organic? No thank you. I'll have some of those synthetic polymer chickens, please.

Try air-chilled chicken. water-chilled chicken leeches out the flavor.
/I work for Whole Foods Market, kick, replies, etc

jaymzz: I detect much THIS in this thread.

THIS

Anyone that has any knowledge of farming could have told you this.

Also, "free range" doesn't mean what you most likely think it does...

carmody: Uh...the point behind eating organic food isn't just because it tastes better (although it often does). The point is to reduce the amount of chemical crapola that goes into the soil and our bodies. It's less cost-effective on the farm/ranch level than factory farming, so it costs more at the consumer end.

Jeez.

Regular chickens and organic chickens are exactly the same in their chemical and genetic make up. Saying they are different is the same argument bottled water companies use to make you spend $1.25 on a product you could get from the tap for pennies.

I've also heard mad cow beef tastes like regular beef. So I don't know what the fuss is about.

I am certain submitter didn't use an adjective in place of an adverb and undoubtedly meant Organically.

What, exactly, was submitter implying? That organic chicken would taste like filet mignon?

It's the same meat, geniuses. It's the same organic compounds, just with less chemicals.

It's like buying two Ferraris that are exactly the same except one releases a poison gas cloud while you drive it and is cheaper.

Would you then say "Non-poisonous Ferrari still drives that same as poisonous Ferrari. Same great drive for a higher price"?

No, no you wouldn't because that's idiotic, like this headline.

I like my chickens like I like my wimmen. Abused and drugged up.

I support organics, if the organics crowd could just support us factory farm lubbers

carmody: The point is to reduce the amount of chemical crapola that goes into the soil and our bodies.

I'll remember that next time I plant a chicken...

/I get your point though
//American life expectancy is at it's longest ever
///I blame preservatives - if they can keep food fresh for that long, they must be why grandpa is still around!

It's the same ingredients. Gosh!!!

They all would have tasted better with bacon

free range EGGS taste much better though

Eh, from what I have seen, it's more about perceived status for these organic only people. Much like the "I don't own a TV so I am better than you" crowd.

This should be good.

carmody: Uh...the point behind eating organic food isn't just because it tastes better (although it often does). The point is to reduce the amount of chemical crapola that goes into the soil and our bodies. It's less cost-effective on the farm/ranch level than factory farming, so it costs more at the consumer end.

Jeez.

Everything you say is true, except 'Even though it often tastes better'.

Animal farms? Evil incarnate.

Organic farms? Usually stupid hippy bullshiat like you.

If I could buy organic stuff from people with a no nonsense, 'ok, it's not money sense, but I just hate this XYZ, so I'm raising stuff this way hoping people buy it, and fark ' I would buy it.

But instead, I have to choose between 'normal, non farking retarded stuff' and '20305030503% times the price 'organic' stuff'.

I don't much care. I know exactly what beef, pork, chicken, and egg farms are like. In too much detail to be comfortable with any.

I really want to support normal people. Not farmers. Not neo-nazi-new-age-farmers.

People who grow chickens for me to eat without ripping off thier beaks, or telling me I'm satan, would be great.

More chemicals please? I only like food that's been drenched in pesticides and hormones. Yes, I'm being serious. I have a moral objection to organic food- specifically that it's a bourgeois luxury passed off as a socially conscious buying decision, complete with a guilt absolution mark up.

I avoid buying organic, although it's getting harder and harder to find non-organic veggies at the grocery store.

jaymzz: I detect much THIS in this thread.

THIS

Help-Im-Sober: jaymzz: I detect much THIS in this thread.

THIS

And THIS

Ned the Wookie: Organic raised chickens - easy to do at home! Astonish your friends! Kit includes hatchet and chopping block. Ages 6 and older.

I grew up with this in Canfield, Ohio... We had about twelve hens and a rooster. I killed my first at thirteen. My dad and two brothers were standing around, waiting for me to wrap it up. It was not a pretty sight, as the axe slipped and I only got a half cut on the chicken's neck. Then the damn thing peeled itself off the log and ran around for about two minutes, neck floppin' all over, blood shooting up the side of the house, before she bled out and dropped. Nobody was about to try and tackle the damn thing, but they sure as hell laughed their asses off. I felt stupid as hell.

Plus I had to hose off the side of the house.

/silly but true.

I find the factory chickens have broken leg and wing bones, so that's why I buy free-range chooks.

Don't like eating animals that have obviously lead a tortured life.

Same taste... why would I pay more when I don't even get the chemicals?!

Maybe true. However, air chilled higher quality chicken tastes better than low grade chickens. Get an expensive chicken, saute it in a dutch oven 5min each side with an onion and no extra water.

Bake 250degrees bottom rack until done (70 - 100 min). Resat 20 min and carve. You will be amazed at what a difference a good brand of chicken will make.

Also, here's Mike the Headless Chicken (wiki).

ChopSueyKS:
Regular chickens and organic chickens are exactly the same in their chemical and genetic make up. Saying they are different is the same argument bottled water companies use to make you spend $1.25 on a product you could get from the tap for pennies.

Genetic makeup, yes. Chemical makeup, no. I don't have the time or inclination to research the chemicals they dose the meat with, but I'm pretty sure some of them do travel up the food chain.

I'm not convinced it matters, since I've yet to hear of a study that links moderate amounts of farmed meat to health problems in humans, but the chemicals are still there. I figure that's why I have a liver though, and you can't let your liver get lazy. Gotta keep that organ in shape.

I'm grilling chicken right now, so...

BBQ legs with a 12oz gooseneck.....yum

Eat whatever you want, morans. Those of us who choose to buy organic don't really care what you think of it. In fact, the growing popularity of organic foods has made 'legitmate' organics harder to find, becuase organic production is not really feasable at a "mass-production" level. So please, go ahead and scorn organics.

/After all, it's all liberal, hippie, San Fransisco bullsh*t, right?

global wombats: I find the factory chickens have broken leg and wing bones, so that's why I buy free-range chooks.

Don't like eating animals that have obviously lead a tortured life.

I find misery gives them a deep woodsy flavor.

bonehead800: ... which you're not doing anyway thanks to the strict regulations and testing carried out by FDA and USDA. There're very specific withdrawal times so that no residues get into the meat, and vets and producers who violate that get in pretty deep shiat. As for hormones, even if they're there, they're foreign proteins that get broken down in your stomach (which is why Clemens shoots up HGH in his butt rather than taking a pill: it doesn't work orally).


Yes, no system is perfect and there're probably some that slip through. Not nearly as many as the organic nuts want you to believe, however.

THIS.

The whole organic craze started with some merit, but it has become waaaay overblown.

jbrooks544: free range EGGS taste much better though

That's the truth. I just tried some for the first time last week, and they were delicious.

I don't understand. I thought it was obvious they'd taste the same, and that people who buy organic do so to avoid pesticides and the ethical problem of hyper dense feed lots.

AntonSzandorLaVey: Try air-chilled chicken. water-chilled chicken leeches out the flavor.
/I work for Whole Foods Market, kick, replies, etc

thanks for explaining that.... i see the sign in the meat case all the time and wonder how that is supposed to matter to me.

I would argue that corn-fed is tastier than regular, at least at my local retailer. But my reasons for buying free-range organic are almost entirely to do with animal welfare.

I can afford the extra 50p.

Interestingly, a UK TV campaign has recently seen sales of free-range birds increase substantially.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXXADo8UqkI

amazing_live_seamonkeys:

Also, here's Mike the Headless Chicken (wiki).

Mike The Headless Chicken Day FTW!

/lives 30 miles from Fruita

bonehead800:

... thanks to the strict regulations and testing carried out by FDA and USDA...

I'm not trying to pick a fight, just using this as a platform to put my soapbox on.... While it may have been at one time, the FDA really has no interest in making sure our food is safe... they are now just another bloated federal branch that takes bribes, oops I mean lobby money from the pharm. and"food" industries, and the director was reprimanded a yaer or two ago (or maybe he was not, but he was caught) investing HEAVILY in the junk food industry.

This is the organization that allowed high fructose corn syrup and partially hydrogenated oils to replace sugar and natural oils in most of the products we eat, producing the high rates of adult onset diabetes, obesity and heart disease we enjoy today.

Yes, yes, yes, I KNOW sugar and oil are not intrinsically healthy, but these hydrogenated oil and HFCS products are POISON.

Steps down, tosses soapbox back in corner...

The article says they taste-tested breast meat. If they're looking for a flavor difference, why did they test the least flavorful part of the bird? Seems somewhat illogical to me.

The organic ones have much sharper talons.

I prefer the taste of free-range humans to regular, cubicle-restrained humans. They're too stringy for my taste.

save a plant, eat a cow,
i want beef, i want it now!
i'm gonna eat it cause it's red!
i'm gonna eat it cause it's dead!
maybe i should eat it raw let the
blood run down my jaw
i'd eat people if it was legal

/RBF "Say Ten"