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(AP) Followup Rapper Juvenile, who makes a living glorifiying guns and violence, "shocked" at the shooting of his daughter and her mother   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 510
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big_pth [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 10:55:28 AM  
I would assume you have specific examples of his glorifying of guns and violence in is lyrics, Submittard

/Dead little girls should not be made lite of, even in FARK.

 
MorrisBird [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 10:57:24 AM  
big_pth: Dead little girls should not be made lite of, even in FARK.

Amen

 
Cork on Fork 2008-03-02 11:29:44 AM  
"It's enemy turf that I'm on, so I'ma play it how it go
Cock the hollow points into my black calico"

"Snitches wanted to testify the shiat that they know
Set a bomb on the front door, put a key in the door and the place blow"

"Didn't really want to hurt her, but you know how it is,
You better not ever disrespect me hoe in front of my kids."


Agreed that dead little girls should not be made fun of, but I think the headline points to irony more than anything else. The above are lyrics from this guy's songs... so he does glorify guns and violence. And, he talks about killing "snitches." I wonder if he feels the same about someone who would come forward with info. about this crime.

/not subby
// horrible thing that happened

 
JoeBagadonutz [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 11:31:39 AM  
I liked the headline that said he wouldn't have to pay child support any more better. It was funny...inappropriate, but funny.

 
whiskeyinthejar [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-03-02 11:32:55 AM  
big_pth: I would assume you have specific examples of his glorifying of guns and violence in is lyrics, Submittard

I Did That

I'm in the jungle, of nubians that's lookin' for static,
Two nubians stuck and jackin' just to support his habit,
Them people rollin', so I gotta do what I can,
I gotta pound of that sand I picked up from the man,
The luxuries I gotta have it, black savage,
He's in the streets holdin' up traffic,
With the plastic, Desert Eagle .45 automatic,
My glass is, filled with J.D. and coca-cola classic,
And nubians that playa-hate I got somethin' for yo asses
I'ma act a donkey, boy you best not run up on me,
You nubians phony, that's why I did that to your homie,
For instance, when the Mac-9 will erase your existence
So distance, yourself from me cuz my conscience be clickin',
nubians be paranoid when they see I be dippin',
Sayin', man let me go, he bout to stomp on that trigger,
Somebodies wig get split in the middle of the street,
I got your brains to show you biatches, stop playin' with me,
And ain't no thing I got my ruger and I aint' scared to die,
Cross that line and I'ma shoot'cha and tell your Mommy bye-bye,
Hungry for money, like vampires hungry for blood,
Better get to runnin', solja reeboks is in the mud

Hide Out or Ride Out

we left yo' brain sick
up with a chopper (A.K. 47) splittin' the bricks
a young black crucifix
up in the dirt i be knockin' dicks
smooth and beretically, my pockets
rocket
to six figures
and polverizin' nubians
pullin'
A.K.'s and two triggers
my potn's stand on the side of me
they only come out at night
them deamons got me on a flight
duck tapin' and takin' life
or even worse
it could be three O'clock, on a Sunday by church
yo' brains might have to burst
you shouldn't have farked with me first
since them bullets was cappin'
adam's apples i'm scoutin'
got richer penintentiary ward
for the national guard to come get 'em
very seldom do you see me, when you do
what do you do
bust back, better be a head shot
if not it's you
i'm comin' around the corner
'bout to pulla meatball on ya'
purses like a coat
and them houses in calico
me and Lil Turk heard of a merger
on a murder
fifty G's (grand) on his head
what ht fark did you said
fifty G's (grands) for sure
that nubian live next door
call the man
let the sucker plan
look, i fark with this rap shiat, but i ask 'em don't say no more
a Hot Boy representin' this biatch like black and Moe

Livin in the Projects

I'm a nubian from the third with a helluva nerve,
And if you cross my line then you will get served,
I win, lose, or die this happens everyday,
Muthafarkas get killed in this game I play
I put these hands on a nubian cuz he talk too much,
He told my business to a biatch, I had to fark him up
When I confronted this nubian, he got highly upset,
Took off his shirt, booted up, then looked down to my chest,
So I slammed his ass, the nubian started to kick,
I went to stompin' in his face, farkin' up his shiat,
Gave him a good ass whippin', then I started to steppin',
I saw him reachin' in his pants, I seen he was stressin',
The nubians was stuntin', but I had mine,
Five times through the chest, family outside cryin',
On the way back home, I saw this sharp ass lady,
Polo down, hair fixed, and some gold earrings,
I asked just where she's headed, she said "7th Ward",
Release the fine biatch out the St. Bernard,
She hopped in the ride, I take the hoe to Popeye's,
Got a three piece white, cold drink, and small fries
The hoe got full, we went to the Rochambeaux,
Took off her clothes and bust three nuts and after that I was through,
Took her halfway home and told the biatch "Get on",
Didn't give a fark about her cuz I gave her the bone,
Everyday somebody else will get, hung by the gaffler,
nubians roll down the ave., cuz I'm the neighborhood amp,
farkin' around with the Juvenile and you get your brains blown out,
Cuz that's what livin' all up the project is all about


Took me three seconds.

/not submitter.

 
Kome [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 11:37:08 AM  
big_pth: /Dead little girls should not be made lite of, even in FARK.

Exactly. One less potential stripper in the world is always a tragedy.

 
darkhorse23 [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 11:39:57 AM  
Even after he was presented with the paternity test that proved he was her father, he refused to acknowledge her as his own.

Now he gets to live for the rest of his life with the knowledge that he could have manned up and made that child's short little existence better, but was too busy being a badass.

Color has nothing to do with it, either. There's too many jackasses out there in the world of every color who behave like that, and the children suffer.

 
2wolves 2008-03-02 11:42:20 AM  
Kome:

Exactly. One less potential stripper in the world is always a tragedy.


Your newsletter. Show it to me.

 
Firetini [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 11:45:51 AM  
Color has nothing to do with it, either. There's too many jackasses out there in the world of every color who behave like that, and the children suffer.

I lost you at this line. Omit it in the next submission. It gives fuel for the others to turn this into a civil war.

 
bulldg4life [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 11:49:17 AM  
big_pth: I would assume you have specific examples of his glorifying of guns and violence in is lyrics, Submittard
/Dead little girls should not be made lite of, even in FARK.


You're exactly right. I mean, the submitter missed a perfectly good "back that thang up" joke.

Step it up people in FARK!

 
d23 2008-03-02 11:49:43 AM  
Isn't this also the asshole who just got out of a whole bunch of child support payments? He sure chose the correct name.

Sounds like he is yet another boil on the ass of humanity. Sorry for his lost, but live by the gun and die by the gun...

 
miseducated 2008-03-02 11:49:43 AM  
Firetini: I lost you at this line. Omit it in the next submission. It gives fuel for the others to turn this into a civil war.

It was going to happen, regardless. If this doesn't turn into a BLACK MEN ARE IRRESPONSIBLE FATHERS AND ALL-AROUND HORRIBLE PEOPLE thread before it hits the main page, it'll happen shortly thereafter.

 
darkhorse23 [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 11:50:32 AM  
Firetini: I lost you at this line. Omit it in the next submission. It gives fuel for the others to turn this into a civil war.

There are asses on here who can take "Hello, how are you" and turn it into a civil war.

I stand by what I say. Always.

 
darkhorse23 [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 11:52:09 AM  
miseducated: It was going to happen, regardless. If this doesn't turn into a BLACK MEN ARE IRRESPONSIBLE FATHERS AND ALL-AROUND HORRIBLE PEOPLE thread before it hits the main page, it'll happen shortly thereafter.

What he said.

 
Firetini [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 11:52:58 AM  
darkhorse23: Firetini: I lost you at this line. Omit it in the next submission. It gives fuel for the others to turn this into a civil war.

There are asses on here who can take "Hello, how are you" and turn it into a civil war.

I stand by what I say. Always.


You're right. Trolls really do exist and it was fair warning for future posts to come.

 
itazurakko [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 11:53:24 AM  
So would we say the same if this was the family of an action-movie hero?

 
Mugato [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 11:56:24 AM  
Hey, when Bill Cosby comes out and flat out states that young black males don't take care of or even responsibility for their kids, it stops being a racist stereotype and becomes a genuine issue. Don't shoot the messenger.

/oh, don't shoot the little girl either

 
Kome [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 12:01:32 PM  
Mugato: Hey, when Bill Cosby comes out and flat out states that young black males don't take care of or even responsibility for their kids, it stops being a racist stereotype and becomes a genuine issue. Don't shoot the messenger.

Cosby's message applies equally well to white trash and chollos who also don't man up and take responsibility for knocking a woman up. Being irresponsible is a product of one's subculture, not one's race. Ghettos and trailer parks are not breeding grounds for responsible activity.

 
Gwendolyn [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 12:06:26 PM  
Firetini: I lost you at this line. Omit it in the next submission. It gives fuel for the others to turn this into a civil war.

Hell I live with two black families on either side of me one are Baptists and the other are Mormons. Does me saying that imply I believe all black people are religious nut jobs? If I qualify it as me not reflecting those wackos onto the black population does make it worse? If people are pissy about a subject no matter what anyone else says they are going to believe it was meant in a malicious way.

 
Molavian 2008-03-02 12:06:55 PM  
itazurakko: So would we say the same if this was the family of an action-movie hero?

Yes, that's exactly the same thing. I have to run to some communist-held country now and free a bunch of POWs, while killing hundreds of the enemy. You see, that's what my culture glorifies.

 
Mugato [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 12:06:59 PM  
Kome: Being irresponsible is a product of one's subculture, not one's race

I'm not saying it's based on race like in a genetic way. You're right, it is culture and there is a black culture that for whatever reason puts having as many kids as you can and not taking care of them in high regard. And it exists disproportionately among blacks than any other demographic. That is not a racist statement. It's a comment on culture, not race. And all the black leaders agree.

 
KaponoFor3 [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-03-02 12:09:01 PM  
Kome: Cosby's message applies equally well to white trash and chollos who also don't man up and take responsibility for knocking a woman up.

I agree wholeheartedly. I don't think that this statement marginalizes Bill Cosby's perspective in any way, however -- it remains just as true. He likely felt like he had more freedom to make such a criticism of black culture/men than any other race/culture.

 
Mugato [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 12:10:20 PM  
itazurakko: So would we say the same if this was the family of an action-movie hero?

Are you saying that these gangsta rappers are just playing a character and that the kids listening to them interpret it as such? I don't recall Arnold Schwarzenegger taking 9 gunshot wounds in a drug deal gone bad and then making a movie and video game bragging about it.

 
Firetini [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 12:11:38 PM  
Gwendolyn:
Hell I live with two black families on either side of me one are Baptists and the other are Mormons. Does me saying that imply I believe all black people are religious nut jobs? If I qualify it as me not reflecting those wackos onto the black population does make it worse? If people are pissy about a subject no matter what anyone else says they are going to believe it was meant in a malicious way.


I realize that. There are some people that are very closed minded when it comes to discussions regarding race. Everyone has their opinion and I realize this is Fark and it's going to come up no matter what.

 
Gwendolyn [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 12:11:40 PM  
FTFA:
the death of 4-year-old Jelani; her mother, 39-year-old Joy Deleston; and the woman's daughter Micaiah, 11,

Terrell was taken to jail in neighboring DeKalb County to avoid any potential conflict because Deleston worked for Gwinnett County, said Lawrenceville police spokeswoman Illana Spellman. She could not confirm Friday whether Deleston's service weapon was used.


So she had her first kid at 28 and another at 35. She also held down a full time job. I'm just trying to hold off the that's what she gets for trying to take a man's hard earned money to sit around on her ass all day. Although I'm sure that was everyone's opinion of a woman who got knocked up by someone famous.

 
Gwendolyn [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 12:16:56 PM  
Oh shiat the kid that shot her was her own son. That's even worse. Why the hell doens't the linked article mention that?

 
Gwendolyn [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 12:17:35 PM  
Oh it does....

 
criscodisco [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 12:20:31 PM  
I missed it, too, Gwendolyn.

And I hate to admit, but before reading I assumed she was a stay on her ass mom.

 
kaminariko [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 12:23:47 PM  
race thread...yay!

 
Mayostard [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 12:40:17 PM  
Gwendolyn: Oh shiat the kid that shot her was her own son. That's even worse. Why the hell doens't the linked article mention that?

Was it the kid from the Xbox 360 box full of clothes video from the other day?

 
2wolves 2008-03-02 12:40:40 PM  
kaminariko: race thread...yay!

More of a "Poor impulse control" thread and the effect of popular culture.

 
goodbomb 2008-03-02 12:50:18 PM  
fark you subby

 
tonesskin [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 12:52:05 PM  
I'm going to ignore the race flame war. Instead, I will point out that a comma is missing in the headline.

 
kob_zilla 2008-03-02 12:52:50 PM  
Someone posts "that's racist" boy in 3...2...1...

 
tonesskin [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 12:52:51 PM  
goodbomb: fark you subby

It's just one missing comma! Lighten up.

 
Wolfmanjames [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 12:53:07 PM  
Rapper Juvenile

Redundancy.

 
Bippal 2008-03-02 12:53:47 PM  
goodbomb: fark you subby

Why? It wasn't a joke at the daughters expense, it was a statement of irony.

 
PC LOAD LETTER [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 12:56:02 PM  
goodbomb: fark you subby

did he hurt your feelings? Do you think this is another smear on an Honorable Community Leader like ODB, Tupac and Biggie?

 
Kome [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 12:58:05 PM  
goodbomb: fark you subby

Grow up, pantywaste.

 
Gunny Highway 2008-03-02 12:58:14 PM  
Rapper Juvenile, who makes a living glorifiying guns and violence, "shocked" at the shooting of his daughter and her motherhis baby mama

 
andyfromfl 2008-03-02 12:58:43 PM  
tonesskin

No comma missing.

 
RoxtarRyan [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 12:58:48 PM  
This will turn into a song about how he likes gun violence, as long as it isn't against him or his hoes.

/where's the irony tag?

 
tonesskin [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 12:59:58 PM  
andyfromfl: tonesskin

No comma missing.


Is his real name Rapper Juvenile?

Rapper, Juvenile, who...

 
The Invisible Sky Wizard 2008-03-02 01:00:36 PM  
Tragic murders aside, it's nice to see at least one rapper who doesn't have to spell his own stage name phonetically.

 
Whoopty Rape Angel 2008-03-02 01:00:56 PM  
juvenile still puts out albums?

/too bad about the kid
//it's all juvenile's fault, I hope he knows that

 
tonesskin [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 01:02:22 PM  
The Invisible Sky Wizard: Tragic murders aside, it's nice to see at least one rapper who doesn't have to spell his own stage name phonetically.

Tru dat.

 
I Said [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 01:04:02 PM  
That's really sad. I'm sorry for everyone involved, especially the child.

 
TheHearshotKid 2008-03-02 01:04:57 PM  
I've heard that this thread is about a race.

imagecache2.allposters.com

 
Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox 2008-03-02 01:05:20 PM  
Either everything is fair game for comedy or nothing is.

 
harryjr 2008-03-02 01:05:52 PM  
Link (new window)


/to lighten the mood
//not Rick Roll

 
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