Anyone will tell you it’s a prisoner island, hidden in the summer for a million years.

You're lucky I'm at home with my collection of Icehouse CDs, Bob Down, or I'd have to curse you for getting that song stuck in my head all day.

lounge rooms complete with flat-screen LCD televisions

They fail to mention Chopper Reed's on every channel.

C'mon, they are in the Southern Hemisphere. The least they can do is have an Antarctic penal colony.

What about the human rights of the people who were killed, raped, maimed, tortured, and everything you can think of?

Fail, Australia, fail.

Snarfangel: C'mon, they are in the Southern Hemisphere. The least they can do is have an Antarctic penal colony.

Yeah, but it'd be a really, really small one.

I AM NOT A NUMBER!

I AM A FREE MAN!

[cue Iron Maiden]

Tatsuma: What about the human rights of the people who were killed, raped, maimed, tortured, and everything you can think of?

Fail, Australia, fail.

You're right. These people should be tortured to the brink of death every day, and kept alive by whatever means necessary to torture them more.

You know you prison is classy when the men's bathroom has a condom dispenser.

Awesome Australia...because flat screen tv's, cottages, bbq, and mountain views have everything to do with human rights.

Prison?? That article simply described the ultimate Socialist paradise.

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: You're right. These people should be tortured to the brink of death every day, and kept alive by whatever means necessary to torture them more.

Your ideas are intriguing. What kind of cost are we looking at?

When Austrailia was a penal colony, the end of the line was Norfolk Island. Conditions were so atrocious and brutal under the regime there that prisoners would have a lottery amongst themselves. There would be two 'winners.' The first 'winner' was obligated to murder the second winner in front of the rest of the lottery participants. That way the survivors would be taken to the mainland as witnesses in the murder trial and enjoy the improved conditions and respite from the brutality of Norfolk Island.

Bring back the good old days.

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Tatsuma: What about the human rights of the people who were killed, raped, maimed, tortured, and everything you can think of?

Fail, Australia, fail.

You're right. These people should be tortured to the brink of death every day, and kept alive by whatever means necessary to torture them more.

You know, you have a sick mind. Seriously, I think you need help.

If there are people that understand what it is like to be a prisoner, it is the Australians!

zing!

Their slogan:


DON'T DROP THE SOAP OR ELSE...



YOU GONNA GET RAPED!

I guess they skipped the chapter on crime and punishment.

But TFA doesn't mention: NO BEER!

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Dubya's_Coke_Dealer:

You're right. These people should be tortured to the brink of death every day, and kept alive by whatever means necessary to torture them more.

No. It's supposed to be a correctional facility. They're supposed to suffer the consequences of their actions and learn how to function in an actual society, learn a skill that will get them a job and keep them away from crime, etc etc.

ps that was a pretty effing weak strawman, dcd

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Tatsuma: What about the human rights of the people who were killed, raped, maimed, tortured, and everything you can think of?

Fail, Australia, fail.

You're right. These people should be tortured to the brink of death every day, and kept alive by whatever means necessary to torture them more.

Don't be a dipshiat. Of course they should not be totured, but they should not live a life of any luxuries whatsoever. They have given up every those rights by committing the crimes they committed.

They should be the ones providing services to the community like garbage collection, road work, etc. The should be required to pay back society, by replacing those jobs that society has to pay for with taxes. Then they should be locked back up in their rooms at night so they get a good night's rest before they do it all over again in the morning. Treating prisoners like anything other than, well, prisoners, is idiocy at best.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you've never been the victim of a crime.

moothemagiccow - Dubya's_Coke_Dealer:

You're right. These people should be tortured to the brink of death every day, and kept alive by whatever means necessary to torture them more.

No. It's supposed to be a correctional facility. They're supposed to suffer the consequences of their actions and learn how to function in an actual society, learn a skill that will get them a job and keep them away from crime, etc etc.

Say. You might want to get your sarcasm meter calibrated.

This thing is interesting as an experience. Let's wait and see how many of these folks come back to commit crimes after they're released.

If the ratio is better than the current one, I say let it be, let's change all prisons to this model.

Throwing people in godforsaken dungeons may seem like a nice "revenge" act, but it doesn't do much as far as rehabilitation goes.

FTFA:

"the ACT Government anticipates it will cost taxpayers $336 a day for each inmate"

Holy shiat. I cannot think of a more absurd miscarriage of justice than this. There is nothing "humane" about pampering those who should be punished.

Also, I second Tatsuma's comment...

However, I do wonder what sort of prisoners will be sheltered there. Are we talking about violent criminals, or minor offenses?

/disgusted

Tatsuma: What about the human rights of the people who were killed, raped, maimed, tortured, and everything you can think of?

Fail, Australia Israel, fail.

FTFY

Didn't you know? In Australia, the criminals aren't at fault, it is society's fault. Therefore, the criminals must live a life of luxury while society suffers for their crimes.

:)

Fail, Australia Israel, fail.

Collective punishment FTW!

moothemagiccow: No. It's supposed to be a correctional facility. They're supposed to suffer the consequences of their actions and learn how to function in an actual society, learn a skill that will get them a job and keep them away from crime, etc etc.

Aw man! I'm a law abiding, tax paying citizen and I don't get mountain views or a flat screen TV.

Now I'm encouraged to break the law to get in on those swank accomidations... at the taxpayer's expense.

Righteous!

If punishment is really nothing more creditable than vengeance, as we are often told by opponents of the death penalty, then it stands to reason than prisons should be as comfortable as possible.

Okay, I'm curious ...

Is this prison actually for murderers, rapists, torturers, etc.?

Is it for non-violent offenders?

Is it for criminals who committed victimless crimes (prostitution is one example I can think of)?

Yeah, I agree that prisoners shouldn't have the luxuries that are apparently available at this prison, but to me it does make a difference just what kind of crimes the prisoners committed.

Tatsuma: What about the human rights of the people who were killed, raped, maimed, tortured, and everything you can think of?

Fail, Australia, fail.

Torturing the perps will help the victims...how?

If somebody rapes murders, maims, or tortures, they're irrecoverable, and they should be euthanized so they can't do it again. People that look salvageable and will be let back out should not be turned into even worse monsters before you let them back out.

I know it doesn't satisfy the need for biblical vengeance...but then, nothing much does. Ask the people in the middle east.

Unless you're into the whole sadomasochistic victim/avenger thing...in which case, you might look int euthanasia for yourself. Most of us can do without that kind of sickness.

Austraila! You're doing it all wrong!

You'd figure a former prison colony like Australia would have better success at soul crushing incarcerations.

USA! USA!

Where 1 out of every 100 people (1% population) is in prison.

/makes me wonder how many farkers have been behind bars at one point or another in their lives.

I've been in front of a few bars in my time...

Where 1 out of every 100 people (1% population) is in prison.

1 out of 100 adults.

altinos: Where 1 out of every 100 people (1% population) is in prison.

1 out of 100 adults.

My bad. You're correct, of course. Thanks for the correction.

moeriscus: "the ACT Government anticipates it will cost taxpayers $336 a day for each inmate"

$10,000 mer month. 100% of my income would fall short of paying for one person in this facility.

Insane.

How many guys will reoffend, just to get back in? Especially when 'in' is nicer than 'out.

My thoughts on prison? I should never, ever see another pothole in the road. I have to work for a living, why not them?

/flatscreen TV? *I* don't have one.
//someone explain to me why *I* should pay for these clowns to have one.

That's it.

I'm emigrating to Australia to become a Muslim rapist.

altinos: Where 1 out of every 100 people (1% population) is in prison.

1 out of 100 adults.

Damn kids, getting away with their crimes.

1. Commit crime
2. Go to cushy, luxurious Australian prison
3. Complete sentence, get tossed back on the mean streets
4. ...

I know what I'd do.

oh_noes111

I'm emigrating to Australia to become a Muslim rapist.

Does that mean you're going to rape Muslims, or you're a Muslim and you're going to rape at random? It's an important distinction.

a gilded cage is still a cage

I see they don't mention that they are forced to listen to Inya and Celine Dion while in the scented bubble bath by candlelight.

Do the cottages come with Botany Bay windows?

We need to develop deep space travel, and quick. I need to get off this rock. It's turning into some queer bizzaro version of the universe.

YouPeopleAreCrazy: //someone explain to me why *I* should pay for these clowns to have one.

Because it gives you something to biatch about, thus allowing us to laugh at said biatching.

Malbar: Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Tatsuma: What about the human rights of the people who were killed, raped, maimed, tortured, and everything you can think of?

Fail, Australia, fail.

You're right. These people should be tortured to the brink of death every day, and kept alive by whatever means necessary to torture them more.

Because that's exactly what he said, right? There is no middle ground between excessive luxury comforts and TORTURE. You choose one or the other because these are the only options that exist!

Moron.


Exactly... You beat me to it.
Dubya's_Coke_Dealer = FAIL.

"You are detained, you lose your liberty, you lose basic things that we take for granted, when you can go out, what sort of clothes you can wear and what sort of food you eat.

Sort of like working at McDonald's.

charlesmartel11235: a gilded cage is still a cage

Naive is still naive.

It all depends on who they put in there - as described it is a much better life than some criminals have on the outside. I'm willing to bet that for some people, being locked-in at night and having to wear prison issue clothes is a small price to pay for say, knowing where your next meal is coming from, and having a bed to sleep in at night.

$122,000 per year being spent on these criminals. LCD TVs... mountain views... who in the hell allowed this to happen?

I wonder how much per year is spent on people who DON'T break the law?

charlesmartel: Sure, a gilded cage is still a cage. It's not fun to give up your freedom in order to live in a nice place.

So what's the alternative for these people? Work all day at a crap job for little money, and live in a dump. That kind of freedom isn't worth a whole lot.

Now I don't think people will going around committing crimes with the intention of getting caught. But when the punishment is only a minor decrease in your quality of life, and is in some ways better, a lot of people will say "what the hell, I'll go ahead and rob that house" since the punishment isn't something to be feared.