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(BBC) Interesting Mahmoud Ahmadiplomat makes the first ever trip to Iraq of an Iranian president. Flowers and delicious chocolates expected to flow freely   (news.bbc.co.uk) divider line 88
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Shaggy_C 2008-03-02 05:21:24 AM  
So, the idiot Republicans who think Iran is the next 'Nazi Germany' drove Iraq directly into their hands. And now our new little puppet state in the middle East is negotiating directly with Mr. Ahmadinejad...Er, I mean, 'Brown Hitler'. Yet we can't talk with him, even through surrogates. Don't you think, just maybe, you know, talking to Iran might be the best way to get them to work WITH us on this whole Iraq thing? Oh wait, talking doesn't involve killing people, bootstraps, or sky ghosts. Out of the question.

 
ComicBookGuy 2008-03-02 05:24:22 AM  
i14.photobucket.com

 
WTFDYW [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 05:29:30 AM  
It's good to see that Iraq is rubbing elbows with somone other than the U.S. It shows that maybe they're becomeing autonimous a little bit at a time.

 
WTFDYW [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 05:31:07 AM  
Atonomous

/FTFM

 
WTFDYW [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 05:32:45 AM  
WTFDYW 2008-03-02 05:31:07 AM
Atonomous Autonomous

/FTFMx2
//Beertender, I'll have another bar please

 
InternetLOL 2008-03-02 05:38:29 AM  
I see what you did there, subby.

 
Hector Remarkable 2008-03-02 05:45:43 AM  
That's a far nicer headline than I would have contemplated submitting about this event.

/maybe something that said "Mission Accomplished" - I never get tired of that.

 
Hector Remarkable 2008-03-02 05:48:01 AM  
WTFDYW: WTFDYW 2008-03-02 05:31:07 AM
Atonomous Autonomous

/FTFMx2
//Beertender, I'll have another bar please


You might need to go to Alcoholics Autonomous.

/sorry

 
PfizerX 2008-03-02 05:51:15 AM  
Hey, I bet he embiggens the entire nation with his cromulent speeches!

 
WTFDYW [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 05:52:09 AM  
Well, the drunker I sit here, the longer I get

 
badfish1211 2008-03-02 05:53:46 AM  
hey guys u know what i think?!ahmadinejad is trying to make friends with the iraq,so they'll join him when he tries to take over the united states.we should just invade iran now.

 
WTFDYW [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 05:54:03 AM  
I just wonder what Bush, and Condeleeser Rice thinks about this.

 
c.j. 2008-03-02 05:55:13 AM  
i146.photobucket.com

 
larsalan 2008-03-02 05:55:18 AM  
i88.photobucket.com
//i like that guy
//he is like a visionary and revolutionary

 
ilambiquated 2008-03-02 05:56:03 AM  
And unlike Bush, who flew into Iraq to visit the troops last year without even bothering to inform the government he installed, the Prsident of Iran actually waited for an invitation.

There is no solution the the problems in Iraq that doesn't involve ALL its neighbors. Cheney's war on Iran is making things worse in Iraq.

/The other funny thing about that visit was that Bush thinks that Iraq is "on the way" to Australia. By the time he got to Australia he was so jet lagged he thought he was in Austria and OPEC=APEC

 
c.j. 2008-03-02 06:02:49 AM  
i146.photobucket.com

 
ChicoEscuela 2008-03-02 06:09:52 AM  
Shaggy_C - we, and the UN, have been talking with Iran.

Sit closer to the teacher next time, your anti-Bush goggles keep failing you. Big time.

 
ChicoEscuela 2008-03-02 06:14:17 AM  
Shaggy_C - me again, regarding your "bootstraps" comment.

Are you saying you'd prefer to make an association with Bush to Hitler than concern yourself with Iran? No, seriously, explain yourself. Once you get your blind hatred of Bush out of your narrow worldview maybe some sensibility may return. I hope.

/you scare me

 
woke_up_this_morning 2008-03-02 06:19:25 AM  
I have a dream, that americans will stop living in fear from there own shadows. You people have the strongest military in the world, and still you are afraid. Death is inevitable.

 
Shaggy_C 2008-03-02 06:19:53 AM  
ChicoEscuela: we, and the UN, have been talking with Iran.

The US has been talking with Iran at an ambassador level. They've had a total of 3 talks so far with the conversations limited entirely to Iraq. Thus my assertion:

Shaggy_C: Yet we can't talk with him, even through surrogates.


Why can't we have official dialogue over the real issues? Oh, yeah, Bush won't have it - he says we lose in that case. "What's lost by embracing a tyrant who puts his people in prison because of their political beliefs? What's lost is it will send the wrong message,"

Don't accuse me of anti-Bush goggle fail, I'm just calling the facts as they are.

 
Shaggy_C 2008-03-02 06:21:46 AM  
ChicoEscuela: Are you saying you'd prefer to make an association with Bush to Hitler than concern yourself with Iran?

Nope. You missed the point there. I'm chiding the right for calling Ahmadinejad the new Hitler, not conflating President Bush to him. Calm down.

 
luckyeddie 2008-03-02 06:25:53 AM  
ChicoEscuela: Sit closer to the teacher next time, your anti-Bush goggles keep failing you. Big time.

I bet you're one of those people who really do think that there was justification for invading Iraq, and that a 'Mission' really has been 'Accomplished'.

 
phatface 2008-03-02 06:44:14 AM  
And Iraqs' new president is Talabani.

*face-palm*

 
Shaggy_C 2008-03-02 06:50:57 AM  
phatface: *face-palm*

As I understand it, the al (name)-i is supposed to mean 'from the'. So someone named, say, Al Baghdadi is 'from Baghdad'. His name does not have the construct for that - The word Taliban is from the Pashto طالبان ṭālibān, "religious students", loaned from Arabic, طالب ṭālib, the Arabic plural being طلاب ṭullāb. His name is descended from his parents. The Talabani tribe is quite influential in Iraq, especially in historical terms. I guess his name in Iraq is just like how we consider the name 'Kennedy' in the United States. I mean, really, is it any different that the name 'Shoemaker' or 'Smith'? Both of them are job titles/descriptions that are commonly accepted. 'Religious Student' may sound funny to us but I have a feeling it's pretty common over there...Just think of it like someone in the U.S. named 'Chris' - OMFG he's named after the son of sky ghost!!1!.

 
phatface 2008-03-02 06:59:37 AM  
Shaggy_C

Right, and next you're gonna tell me Barrak Hussien Obama doesn't have any significance either.

 
Shaggy_C 2008-03-02 07:01:55 AM  
phatface: Right, and next you're gonna tell me Barrak Hussien Obama doesn't have any significance either.

Hussein means 'Handsome' if I remember correctly. You do know that when he was born Saddam had another 5 years before coming into power, right?

 
phatface 2008-03-02 07:07:11 AM  
Sunday Serious Cat got my tounge.

 
Shaggy_C 2008-03-02 07:12:26 AM  
www.roflcat.com

 
PunGent 2008-03-02 07:37:34 AM  
The other unfortunate point is that Bush had to make his trip in complete secrecy, for security reasons, while Ahmanutjob waltzed right in.

Yep, Mission Accomplished alright.

 
Numba 72 2008-03-02 07:52:54 AM  
woke_up_this_morning: I have a dream, that americans will stop living in fear from there own shadows. You people have the strongest military in the world, and still you are afraid. Death is inevitable.



Welcome troll!

 
blick [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 07:57:28 AM  
hmmm, shiite nutjob leader visits neighboring shiite/sunni country wherein religious sectarian violence is not a spectator sport.
sunni suicide hashassin martyr bomb heading shiite nutjob leader's way in 5...4...3...

 
Radworld4 2008-03-02 08:12:23 AM  
He must be the first Iranian in the last 7 years to cross the border in the back of a farm tuck filled with a cahe of weapons and explosives. Oh who am I kidding...He's probably loaded the truck himself.

 
laebshade 2008-03-02 08:14:19 AM  
Numba 72: woke_up_this_morning: I have a dream, that americans will stop living in fear from there own shadows. You people have the strongest military in the world, and still you are afraid. Death is inevitable.



Welcome troll!


I don't think he's a troll. I have that dream too. Americans fear the "terrorists" so much they'll give up any amount of personal security and privacy for supposed safety. Maybe there'll be a breaking point when US citizens will fight back against the tyranny of their own government. Who knows.

 
Barakku [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 08:19:31 AM  
laebshade: I don't think he's a troll. I have that dream too. Americans fear the "terrorists" so much they'll give up any amount of personal security and privacy for supposed safety. Maybe there'll be a breaking point when US citizens will fight back against the tyranny of their own government. Who knows.

Um...I really don't see "tyranny" worth "fighting back" against. I see major breeches of authority with generally annoying consequences. Less gun rights, the patriot act (already on it's way out) and--ZOMG--they might possibly read my emails to my friends; all >3000 of them, all about legal activity!!!!

I'd rather have that than living in a farking Big Brother Wonderpark like London, or in a constant state of fear like the Middle East.

 
luckyeddie 2008-03-02 08:24:46 AM  
phatface: Shaggy_C

Right, and next you're gonna tell me Barrak Hussien Obama doesn't have any significance either.


Moran

/cliches are fun

 
Ed Finnerty 2008-03-02 08:26:55 AM  
I'd like to see ANY US official drive outside of the Green Zone.

We're liberators after all.

 
Barakku [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 08:30:56 AM  
Ed Finnerty: I'd like to see ANY US official drive outside of the Green Zone.

We're liberators after all.


Because making ourselves into massive, well-announced targets--heroism. Yes yes.

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 08:43:29 AM  
Congratulations dumbass. You took Iraq from Saddam and gave it to Iran. And turned a tidy profit for you and your friends. While bankrupting your own country,curtailing civil rights,smearing America's honor and name around the world and still haven't gotten bin Laden


img90.imageshack.us

 
biglot 2008-03-02 08:43:47 AM  
I just can't help but imagine what mayhem this guy would've caused in Iraq had Bush not beat him too it.

 
Sleeping Monkey [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 08:47:30 AM  
Iran: The biggest winner of Bush's borrow-and-spend war in Iraq.

 
Mexicola 2008-03-02 09:03:20 AM  
random Persian girl
img262.imageshack.us
that is all

 
acid704 2008-03-02 09:07:48 AM  
My girlfriend is Persian. Just thought everyone should know.

 
Barakku [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 09:17:07 AM  
Mexicola: random Persian girl

that is all


acid704: My girlfriend is Persian. Just thought everyone should know.

I'm no longer sure where this thread is going...

 
jso2897 2008-03-02 09:21:05 AM  
biglot: I just can't help but imagine what mayhem this guy would've caused in Iraq had Bush not beat him too it.

Probably less, actually. he has a narrower range of interests there than we do. The less you have to accomplish, the less mess you make, as a rule.

 
blick [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 09:29:53 AM  
back in the 70's when the shah was in power there were a lot of iranians over in the u.s. as college students. i liked 'em. nice bunch the persians. very funny, well mannered, cultured, and smart.
the iraqis i met however were boorish, smelly, and crude. go figure.

 
Control_this [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 09:34:17 AM  
Maybe Ahmadinejad is on a sex tour. There's no gays in Iran, you know.

 
Bagelox-99 2008-03-02 09:35:19 AM  
Barakku: I'm no longer sure where this thread is going...

hot Persian chyxx0rz?

www.irishblogs.ie
/Marjane Satrapi
//she's talented too

 
StampedingElephant 2008-03-02 09:42:23 AM  
Umm, did anyone really think Iraq would never have contact with the country right next door? I'm not seeing why this is a problem.

Would kinda be nice if one of the Sunni extremist groups got rid of him, though.

 
Broz_Tito 2008-03-02 10:14:23 AM  
Instead he had to travel by car along the usually dangerous road from the airport to Iraqi President Jalal Talabani's residence near the US-controlled Green Zone.


No img1.fark.net tag?

 
Muta 2008-03-02 10:24:18 AM  
Bush is unwilling to compromise on anything. It looks good when things go the way you want because then you get everything. Unfortunately, you end up with nothing when things don't go they way you want.

 
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