But there is climate change on other planets too....


http://motls.blogspot.com/2006/05/global-warming-on-jupiter.html

It kind of is the most important issue.

Coffin_Coroner: But there is climate change on other planets too....

Greedy heartless Jovian corporations.

FTA, ""We have to become incredibly active as citizens in our democracy. In order to solve the climate crisis we have to solve the democracy crisis, and we have one."

Back in my day we would have said, "Only you can prevent forest fires, Smokey."
In other words, he is/was the only person who could have done something about it by running.
He let pass the perfect opportunity. Last year, when all the others began running, he was at the top of his game. But he was too interested in flying around the world doing speeches for mounds of cash or receiving awards for being the savior of the planet.

The fact is, we need to stop climate changes on the other planets first, before it spreads any further.

Pfft. Screw climate change. There are more important issues out there, like WHY DOES OBAMA NOT WEAR A FLAG LAPEL PIN!?!?!

bitteroldman: He let pass the perfect opportunity. Last year, when all the others began running, he was at the top of his game. But he was too interested in flying around the world doing speeches for mounds of cash or receiving awards for being the savior of the planet.

or, he realized his political peak had passed. wish some others would come to that realization...

Yesdog: Pfft. Screw climate change. There are more important issues out there, like WHY DOES OBAMA NOT WEAR A FLAG LAPEL PIN!?!?!

BECAUSE HE'S A TERRORIST MUSLIM LIBRUL!

Yet over the last year there has been enough global cooling to offset the last century of global warming due to very low sunspot activity. A trend that's expected to continue for the next 20 years.

Don't believe me? Don't look for an article on the web (even though they're there), go look up the global temps for last year and compare it with temps over the last century. I suggest NASA or NOAA as a good independent source of data.

The media aren't interested in that topic, so they won't ask the candidates about it.

Global Warming is a conspiracy created by Algore and his cabal of scientists!!! The Greenhouse Effect is a hoax!!! Free your minds sheeple!!1

That dude is starting to get on my nerve. Can't he talk about something else?

Saturn5: Yet over the last year there has been enough global cooling to offset the last century of global warming due to very low sunspot activity. A trend that's expected to continue for the next 20 years.

Don't believe me? Don't look for an article on the web (even though they're there), go look up the global temps for last year and compare it with temps over the last century. I suggest NASA or NOAA as a good independent source of data.

Me too!
2007 in a Tie for Second Warmest Year on Record - NASA

2007 Land Temps Warmest on Record, Fifth Warmest Year on Record - NOAA (they use different baselines than NASA and don't measure the Arctic)

/blatantly stolen from Jon Snow in another thread

I really don't want to hear anything else from Al Gore unless it's "I want to endorse Senator Obama for president." He's welcome to tour the country giving his speeches and whatnot, but when he says the same thing over and over, is it really worth writing news articles about?

Saturn5: Don't believe me?

Yeah, I'll believe this when Baghdad freezes over.

Even TFA noted that all three leading candidates promised leadership about this issue. It's not likely to be a driving force when it isn't filled with drama and contention.

Politics aren't driven by issues that everyone agrees on, Al.

Empanda: I really don't want to hear anything else from Al Gore unless it's "I want to endorse Senator Obama for president." He's welcome to tour the country giving his speeches and whatnot, but when he says the same thing over and over, is it really worth writing news articles about?

Actually, yes.

Yes it is.

Maybe Al should run for president so he can decide what issues are discussd.

Run, Al, run!!

The best way to address climate change is to develop a serious energy policy. Many Conservatives can get behind getting off the addiction to foreign oil for security and economic reasons no matter how skeptical they maybe of global warming. These goals are also consistent with policies for addressing climate change.

EwoksSuck: The best way to address climate change is to develop a serious energy policy. Many Conservatives can get behind getting off the addiction to foreign oil for security and economic reasons no matter how skeptical they maybe of global warming. These goals are also consistent with policies for addressing climate change.

Bingo. But what kind of politician would push a policy that makes so much sense?

But what about Manbearpig?

gilgigamesh: Empanda: I really don't want to hear anything else from Al Gore unless it's "I want to endorse Senator Obama for president." He's welcome to tour the country giving his speeches and whatnot, but when he says the same thing over and over, is it really worth writing news articles about?

Actually, yes.

Yes it is.

Not saying to not write about climate change. After all, as the climate changes, it is doing something different. I am saying I am sick of Al Gore droning on and on.

/sorry if that wasn't clear.

I need a new name: But what about Manbearpig?

It appears to be a species of red herring.

Empanda: . I am saying I am sick of Al Gore droning on and on.

/sorry if that wasn't clear.

Dear Al Gore:

Eat a bag of dicks you mongoloid.

Regards,

The other 299,999,999 of us

Empanda: g
Not saying to not write about climate change. After all, as the climate changes, it is doing something different. I am saying I am sick of Al Gore droning on and on.

/sorry if that wasn't clear.

Gore's not exactly the one writing stories about himself and submitting them to Fark.

Give it till the general. Obama/Clinton has a much different issue set than Obama/McCain.

Descartes: Yeah, I'll believe this when Baghdad freezes over.

From January 2008:

A First! Snow Falls in Baghdad (pops)

Does that count?

Sir Roderick Glossop: Dear Al Gore:

Eat a bag of dicks you mongoloid.

Regards,

The other 299,999,999 of us

Make that 299,999,998

Keep up the good work, Al, and forward that bag of dicks to Sir Roderick Glossop

I have HOPE that climate CHANGE will actually be good for us.

/heard it somewhere anyways.

Subby: +1 for mentioning Virgo Cluster

I work around astronomers and climate scientists, so I got a kick out of this headline.

/Helping this guy look at the Virgo cluster the last few nights, and probably tonight too.
//Flying out tomorrow for a renewable energy conference the feds are having.
///Sleep is for the weak.

I need a new name: But what about Manbearpig?

That's the single most important issue on the other side of the Virgo cluster of galaxies.

maybe they arent talking about global warming because the people who are going to vote for either Obama or Clinton care more about the credit crunch or failing economy, you know the kind of things that have a very real and immediate consequences.

when everyone else has a 250+ million dollar net worth maybe then they can care about issues that may or may happen 200 years from now.

Mr Obama is wise not to open that can o worms

unless he wants his office looking like a recycle station

Descartes: Yeah, I'll believe this when Baghdad freezes over.

Dr. Farkenstein:

From January 2008:

A First! Snow Falls in Baghdad (pops)

Does that count?

Well, I was actually using Baghdad as a metaphor for hell, but, umm, well, hell. I guess I could pull a Skleenar and just blame Bush because it never snowed in Baghdad when Saddam was in charge.

/ducks

A politician who finally found public acclaim by becoming a single-issue speaker is annoyed when his single issue isn't being discussed? Say it ain't so, Ric Romero!

Honestly now, an attention whore promoting a good cause is still an attention whore. It's possible to oppose pollution, support alternate energy research, and yet still be sick of Al "Self-Proclaimed Saviour of the Earth" Gore. In another ten years or so, he's likely to be about as fondly remembered as those annoyingly smug Captain Planet cartoons.

No one farking cares about your stupid doomsday computer model in a year when the economy is shiat and illegal immigrants are running amok, undervaluing American labor and pillaging our social services.

Am I the only one who thinks the main cause of global warming is the fact that the last million-year-long ice age ended only 10,000 years ago?

/also, in before "6,000 years"

OK, Al, it IS important, and OK it DOES need to be addressed; but so do lots of other things; the candidates have a limited amount of time to talk, and have to talk about things that interest whatever audience they are in front of at the moment (which isn't always global climate change).

And as you ought to have learned when the cause of the moment was the hole in the ozone layer (yep, still there; yep, still a big problem), the best way to lose support for a important problem is to constantly beat people over the head with it. I'm betting no one will care about climate change by about August. Thanks, Al.

King Something: Am I the only one who thinks the main cause of global warming is the fact that the last million-year-long ice age ended only 10,000 years ago?

/also, in before "6,000 years"

No.

EdgeRunner:
Honestly now, an attention whore promoting a good cause is still an attention whore. It's possible to oppose pollution, support alternate energy research, and yet still be sick of Al "Self-Proclaimed Saviour of the Earth" Gore. In another ten years or so, he's likely to be about as fondly remembered as those annoyingly smug Captain Planet cartoons.

Be honest now, is it really him that's going around writing stories about himself, and claiming to be "savior of the Earth", or is that just a caricature that gets repeated until people start believing he's actually saying any of that? I've heard a lot of Creationists, "Greenhouse skeptics", young Earthers, and the like repeat all those claims about him, but I've never once heard Al Gore claim to be the savior of the Earth.

King Something: Am I the only one who thinks the main cause of global warming is the fact that the last million-year-long ice age ended only 10,000 years ago?


And the next one will begin in about 15,000 years again.

Climate change is a non-issue.

A) There's no proof that it's man-made.
2) Even if it is man-made, there's nothing we can do about it. Reducing the average person's carbon footprint enough to make a difference (we're talking 50% or more... anything less won't accomplish anything) is not an option.

ScubaDude1960: Climate change is a non-issue.

A) There's no proof that it's man-made.

Right. The Intelligent Designer put all that CO₂ in the atmosphere.

2) Even if it is man-made, there's nothing we can do about it. Reducing the average person's carbon footprint enough to make a difference (we're talking 50% or more... anything less won't accomplish anything) is not an option.

How many terrorists did you fund the last time you filled up your Hummer?

ScubaDude1960: Climate change is a non-issue.

A) There's no proof that it's man-made.
2) Even if it is man-made, there's nothing we can do about it. Reducing the average person's carbon footprint enough to make a difference (we're talking 50% or more... anything less won't accomplish anything) is not an option.

A) You don't understand anything about climate change.
2) The average person *could* give a shiat and demand that politicians force corporations to adhere to stricter standards.

Gore has a point.

It is a little strange that none of the candidates have tried to use this issue. If not for global good, then at least for their own gain.

My guess is that Gore flat out told all of them he would not give an endorsement in an effort to stay above they fray and as a consequence buried the issue he cared most about being pandered to by the candidates.

Now Hillary won't say anything about it as she knows Gore would like to see he boiled in oil, but Obama --and even McCain if he's smart, should do some pandering here. It's a easter egg waiting to be taken.

Gyrfalcon: King Something: Am I the only one who thinks the main cause of global warming is the fact that the last million-year-long ice age ended only 10,000 years ago?

/also, in before "6,000 years"

No.

No.

Isn't Virgo a constellation, not a cluster?