right. if so, that means they're admitting they are totally incompetent and just about the worst terrorists evar.

albo: right. if so, that means they're admitting they are totally incompetent and just about the worst terrorists evar.

I think not.

Grand plans are just that.

But take Harry hostage and then cut his head off in a youtube video and the whole of England would devote their lives to taking them all out.

mr_bunny: But take Harry hostage and then cut his head off in a youtube video and the whole of England would devote their lives to taking them all out.

but they don't think that way. they'd assume the English would retreat out of afghanistan after seeing their prince butchered. blair is gone, after all.

i think this is actually bravado for the benefit of their troops and their sympathetic supporters in the arab world.--"yeah, we knew, but we just didn't act." they're part of a shame/honor culture--this is typical

albo: but they don't think that way. they'd assume the English would retreat out of afghanistan

That's quite an assumption on your part as to how "they" think.

kronicfeld: That's quite an assumption on your part as to how "they" think.

no, it's based on evidence so far. they bomb spain, spain pulls out of iraq. they cut off a few heads and hold some hostages, the nations pull their people out. it's the way europe responds--their politicians cave under pressure, proven time and time again. the US is about the only one who doesn't respond that way.

albo: no, it's based on evidence so far. they bomb spain, spain pulls out of iraq. they cut off a few heads and hold some hostages, the nations pull their people out. it's the way europe responds--their politicians cave under pressure, proven time and time again. the US is about the only one who doesn't respond that way.

Except that Britain has much stronger ties to the US than those other countries, much deeper involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan, and has for a very, very long time proven that it does not act like continental Europe when it comes to this sort of thing.

Um... perhaps I missed something...

Aren't those the only two options anyone has against an enemy soldier... pretty much.. ever?

I doubt they actually knew any more than Harry was fighting somewhere, but I could be wrong of course.

I have to agree though, if they had captured Harry and beheaded him, England probably would have been pretty pissed off. If he had gotten killed in combat it probably would have been seen as a normal risk of what he was doing. Beheading OTOH probably would have been seen as a slap in the face.

I say we kill him!

I say we hang him, then we kill him!

I say we stomp him! Then we tattoo him! Then we hang him! And then we kill him!

(little voice) I say we let him go.

Worst. terrorists. EVAR.

God I miss the cold war. At least Ivan knew how to do propaganda.

"AND THEN WE SHALL USE THE COMFY PILLOWS!!!"

sounds like internet tough guys lololol

So there is a Taliban edition of the Drudge Report.

CAN DRUDGE VERIFY THIS STORIE IS TRUE?????

Empanda: Beheading OTOH probably would have been seen as a slap in the face.

How DARE they try to slap a nation that invaded their country, removed them from rule, and has been trying to kill them in the face!

albo: kronicfeld: That's quite an assumption on your part as to how "they" think.

no, it's based on evidence so far. they bomb spain, spain pulls out of iraq. they cut off a few heads and hold some hostages, the nations pull their people out. it's the way europe responds--their politicians cave under pressure, proven time and time again. the US is about the only one who doesn't respond that way.

first off spain are a bunch of idiots.

as for the reporters, they are not national figures whom the country has followed since birth. had they cut his head off and posted it online everyone in the country would have booked flights to Afghanistan looking for revenge and the US would be right there helping out. the British were there for us after 9/11, we do not forget things like that.

Empanda: I doubt they actually knew any more than Harry was fighting somewhere, but I could be wrong of course.

I have to agree though, if they had captured Harry and beheaded him, England probably would have been pretty pissed off. If he had gotten killed in combat it probably would have been seen as a normal risk of what he was doing. Beheading OTOH probably would have been seen as a slap in the face.

I sort of agree with you, but I'm not sure they would have acted unless they knew they could capture him, and then film his death specifically.

As you said, Harry dies in combat: he's brave, moral booster.

Harry is tortured to death, on video, over several months, then beheaded (possibly on live TV): badbadbad.

Or the everpossible: We have Harry, get the fark out and we might not torture him for months, and/or might give him back if you give in to the following demands.

I don't know how it would have gone, either way, and have no doubt they had no farking clue where/when/who he was, as this is an obvious 'omg we not clueless, we swear!' thing.

I liked terrorists so much better when they simply exploded
next to you.......... without the spin...

TommyBahama

had they cut his head off and posted it online everyone in the country would have booked flights to Afghanistan looking for revenge and the US would be right there helping out. the British were there for us after 9/11, we do not forget things like that.

Speaking as a British person, I find both of those highly unlikely.

Yeah, had they managed to do either, all muslims would die, everywhere.

Well, duh! Where did you think Drudge heard it from?

mferris: I say we kill him!

I say we hang him, then we kill him!

I say we stomp him! Then we tattoo him! Then we hang him! And then we kill him!

(little voice) I say we let him go.

I say you give him to me!



/couldn't find right pic...

If they killed the prince,
would our libs begin to consider them 'enemies' instead of people who haven't recieved enough foreign aid?

We've had a number of heads sawn off, and still they are supported by 'em

what will it take?

albo: kronicfeld: That's quite an assumption on your part as to how "they" think.

no, it's based on evidence so far. they bomb spain, spain pulls out of iraq. they cut off a few heads and hold some hostages, the nations pull their people out. it's the way europe responds--their politicians cave under pressure, proven time and time again. the US is about the only one who doesn't respond that way.

You obviously have given this NO thought. Harry is in the war, not riding a bus (which was bombed in London), so if he was caught and killed he could be used as an insanely good propaganda tool. Remember, they didn't even like Diana, and the second she was killed she became an instant Saint. Now imagine if one of her sons, an heir to the throne, was beheaded on Youtube. So you see where I am going?
Do you know how many Brits would flip out? Especially after the funeral, they would rally and recommit even more troops.
You don't know what you are talking about albo.

third plan...profit

/only if he is wearing underpants, of course

the US is about the only one who doesn't respond that way.

I think someone is a overlooking Vietnam, Lebanon, Sudan and a host of other times that they retreated. Lebanon is probrobly the closest. We had a big speech from Reagan about howdare the cowards on the opposition dare suggest withdrawing and that he would never do that. One bomb kills a bunch of Marines and the order is given to run away.

Of course they knew it, it was all over the farking news. I'm a nobody living somewhere in Nevada, and I knew where Prince Harry was. How could the Taliban be expected to not know?

morning_foil: mr_bunny: But take Harry hostage and then cut his head off in a youtube video and the whole of England would devote their lives to taking them all out


I'd prefer to see the UK deliver a nice-sized nuclear payload followed by limey cheers of "England! F*ck yeah!".

Though it would likely be more along the lines of "England! Jolly good!"



"Cheerioooo!"

Remove all Republicans: Capitalist1: Um... perhaps I missed something...

Aren't those the only two options anyone has against an enemy soldier... pretty much.. ever?

With the female soldiers, there's now another "fun" option.

Oh, don't ever think it wasn't done to the guys. They'd just never never admit it if it was. Some countries (Uruguay, Turkey) had dogs trained for just such a purpose.

There may well be another cause for Vietnam PTSD...just maybe.

natas6.0: If they killed the prince,
would our libs begin to consider them 'enemies' instead of people who haven't recieved enough foreign aid?

We've had a number of heads sawn off, and still they are supported by 'em

what will it take?

the stupidity of your troll is inspiring - please keep posting.

Maybe the Taliban burnt their history books or something? Never doubt the spirit of the ENglish in the face of adversity. Evidence A will be repelling the Luftwaffe in the Battle of Britain in WW2.

If Prince Harry was killed in action it is one thing, beheaded and the whole British Army & Air Force will be paying a visit.

Our third option : was invite him over for tea and ask very very nicely to stop

Of course we should believe them. The Taliban is always completely honest.

natas6.0: If they killed the prince,
would our libs begin to consider them 'enemies' instead of people who haven't recieved enough foreign aid?

We've had a number of heads sawn off, and still they are supported by 'em

what will it take?

I politely and respectfully ask you to go DIAF.

/thanks
//have a nice day

golf clap for the first 20ish posts. It was like a reasonable discussion, NOT Fark.

kilgorn: I liked terrorists so much better when they simply exploded
next to you.......... without the spin...

If they do it right, first they explode. Then they spin. for a short while, at least.

Gyrfalcon: Remove all Republicans:

Oh, don't ever think it wasn't done to the guys. They'd just never never admit it if it was. Some countries (Uruguay, Turkey) had dogs trained for just such a purpose.

You should have been Vick's lawyer. He could have argued that he was just protecting us from the Uruguayans.

/Heh - Uruguayans.

I wonder if they realize he's not really any different from Britney Spears as far as political power goes...

Meh, he's invaded their turf. He's as free game as if one of the tittybanners came here.

"The prince traveled around the province with his unit, says Karim, whose men once or twice reported possible sightings of Harry's armored convoy in their area of operations, eastern Helmand's Sanguin district."

Oh, sure, they knew EXACTLY where he was. Yep. They had him in their crosshairs from the minute his plane touched down. They just...missed.

Translation: They knew about it the same time we did, when we saw it on the Drudge Report.

kronicfeld: Except that Britain has much stronger ties to the US than those other countries, much deeper involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan, and has for a very, very long time proven that it does not act like continental Europe when it comes to this sort of thing.

More like Britain still has the political will to act militarily from time to time. They have committed a non trivial amount of troops to Iraq. And there was that dust up in Argentina over some rocks with a few goats on them. Its one thing if the British pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan because the cost is not worth it and not enough progress is made. It would be quite another for them to walk away if Prince Harry was executed on youtube. Its the difference between some twit saying he could so kick your ass in a bar, and that same guy walking up and slapping you in the face while saying the same. In the first instance, you may not bother. In the 2nd, someone is losing some teeth.

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Translation: They didn't know shiat, and they're just trying to save face.

in other news, $200 million US is now worth only $211 million AU.

Capitalist1: Um... perhaps I missed something...

Aren't those the only two options anyone has against an enemy soldier... pretty much.. ever?

They could...parley.

I hope Harry managed to score some quality hashish and ravage at least 72 virgins.

kronicfeld: albo: but they don't think that way. they'd assume the English would retreat out of afghanistan

That's quite an assumption on your part as to how "they" think.

Both sides actually do a pretty poor job of understanding the thought process of the other. It would have been much more effective (at least in the West), for them to come out and say something like "We knew he was there but we have no particular animosity towards him. We don't believe in what he stands for, but he came to fight us as man should, unlike other leaders. If he died in combat, we would have honored him."

Pretty much gives them the moral high ground.

fragMasterFlash: and ravage at least 72 virgins.

The world needs a Genghis Khan.

monkeyinabag: in other news, $200 million US is now worth only $211 million AU.

yeah, I just got back from a European vacation where $200 million US is now worth 2 hotdogs in Paris. Oh, and a coke.

/economics happen.
//'tis a pendulum
///beware the backswing for it is inevitable.

Yeah right, like I'd believe the taliban, the Muslim world's hillbillies.
Bunch of bullshiatters, if they'd known they'd have said.

/Guessing the prince might have been there is different to knowing.
//I loathed what the taliban represent before 9/11 and the twin towers did nothing to improve my view of them.

40oz_A_Knight: fragMasterFlash: and ravage at least 72 virgins.

The world needs a Genghis Khan.

Did it not occur to you that most insurgents are virgins and Harry is English after all ;^}