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(Canada.com) Followup Taped statements seem to prove Prime Minister Stephen Harper knew his party was illegally offering money to dying Member of Parliament in exchange for vote   (canada.com) divider line 38
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AlanSmithee [TotalFark] 2008-03-01 03:33:09 PM  
What kind of life insurance company takes on a client that has only a few days to live? For a million dollar payout, to boot. Was the premium $1,000,005 ?

 
muzzrphochr 2008-03-01 04:46:13 PM  
Welcome to democracy... comrade!

/Just one more reason the people of this great nation need to pull their heads out of the sand and rise up against our owners.

 
Control_this [TotalFark] 2008-03-01 07:22:35 PM  
muzzrphochr: /Just one more reason the people of this great nation need to pull their heads out of the sand and rise up against our owners.

I'll help your revolution. This won't change my health coverage will it?

 
CanadianCommie [TotalFark] 2008-03-01 07:37:11 PM  
I read a similar story in the paper today. What asinine shiat is this?


I THOUGHT YOU ASSHOLES PROMISED YOU WOULDN'T PULL THIS shiat!


God, sometimes I farking hate federal politics...and provincial politics....fark I just hate politics right now.

 
MacEnvy [TotalFark] 2008-03-01 08:57:14 PM  
CanadianCommie: I THOUGHT YOU ASSHOLES PROMISED YOU WOULDN'T PULL THIS shiat!

You expected conservatives to actually live up to what they say to get elected?

 
Assistant_Madman [TotalFark] 2008-03-01 09:00:26 PM  
CanadianCommie: I read a similar story in the paper today. What asinine shiat is this?


I THOUGHT YOU ASSHOLES PROMISED YOU WOULDN'T PULL THIS shiat!


God, sometimes I farking hate federal politics...and provincial politics....fark I just hate politics right now.


Wow. Stephen Harper's a sleazebag. Shock me shock me.

/just another conservative politician
//in a long line of conservative politicians

 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark] 2008-03-01 09:53:56 PM  
Canada...O Canada...

Why is it better than America again? I forgot.

 
Apik0r0s 2008-03-01 09:55:23 PM  
Canadian Conservatism looks a lot like US Conservatism.


Ha Ha!

 
BudTheSpud 2008-03-01 09:57:44 PM  
lolmao666: Harper is a Bilderberg member, Dion is a bilderberg member, Bush is a bilderberg member, Hillary is a bilderberg member... Obama is a CFR member, a Bilderberg's related group.

BILDERBERG OWNS YOU.


Oh lolmao666, don't ever change. Keep on truckin, you crazy bastard.

/joined the Illuminati for the free chips and dip
//Mossad offered 5$ gift certificate to Wendy's

 
Smellvin 2008-03-01 09:59:03 PM  
Gyrfalcon: Canada...O Canada...

Why is it better than America again? I forgot.


Because they had to be cut loose by Britain (due to the fact that Canukistan was a burden), rather than revolt all good and proper.

 
Sandelaphon 2008-03-01 10:03:38 PM  
No wonder this guy loves Bush so much, they're both total scumbags.

 
birdboy2000 2008-03-01 10:19:13 PM  
Lolmao666

And that's why you should vote Layton?

 
AlanSmithee [TotalFark] 2008-03-01 10:23:43 PM  
Should I rename my cat Bilderberg?

 
CanadianCommie [TotalFark] 2008-03-01 10:39:45 PM  
MacEnvy: You expected conservatives to actually live up to what they say to get elected?

I took a wait and see approach, to be honest, but I all-caps'd mostly to point out the hypocrisy in really big letters.

Assistant_Madman: Wow. Stephen Harper's a sleazebag. Shock me shock me.

/just another conservative politician
//in a long line of conservative politicians


I'm not going to blame it on his conservatism, I'm going to blame it on his unchecked lust for power.

 
PlatinumDragon 2008-03-01 10:41:30 PM  
What kind of life insurance company takes on a client that has only a few days to live? For a million dollar payout, to boot. Was the premium $1,000,005 ?

I wonder if this might actually be the case. I've had this odd feeling that one piece of information known by the media, but being held for the moment, is the name of the insurance company supposedly involved in this scheme, who owns that company, and which Conservative politicians they are good friends with. It's purely a gut feeling, which is why I'm not putting any stock in it, but the sheer sleaze factor of offering a guilt-trip bribe to a dying politician ("don't you want to provide for your family after you're gone?") sets a low enough bar to include insurance fraud of some kind in the plot.

To paraphrase a supposed Mob hitman/controller, when someone gets busted for bribery, 99% of the time the bribe was refused.

 
canukles [TotalFark] 2008-03-01 11:06:03 PM  
Hope the Rhinoceros party comes back. I'd vote for them as my protest vote in the next election.

/could you image the Rhinoceros party as the official opposition?
//at least the entertainment factor would encourage more voters to watch parliament sessions.

 
canukles [TotalFark] 2008-03-01 11:06:58 PM  
*imagine
/sigh

 
Ghastly [TotalFark] 2008-03-01 11:10:46 PM  
The funny part is all the people who voted Conservative because they were pissed off at Jean Cretien's ad agency scandal and didn't trust Paul Martin and felt the Conservatives were a morally virtuous party that would never do anything unethical like that.

Now the Liberal party has lost a good leader (Martin), has a weak and ineffective leader (Dion), and a corrupt bunch of bastards are in power (the Conservatives). If the Liberal party can get another leader and get their shirt together in good order they could probably get back in power again.

Personally I don't mind too much which party is in power so long as they only make up a minority government.

 
tiiger 2008-03-01 11:23:41 PM  
MacEnvy: You expected conservatives to actually live up to what they say to get elected?

I can't hear you over the sound of 60 year old Sea Kings crashing because they were never replaced by the Liberal Government despite repeated promises to modernize Canada's Armed Forces.

 
GoodHomer 2008-03-01 11:54:04 PM  
You know, I thought that Harper was different. After a decades of Chretien's farking corruption, I really thought that Harper stood on some solid, ethical ground.

Not that I'd ever vote for the Conservatives, because I can't stand many of their policies in the post-PC era, but at least I thought that Harper had the backbone to stand up to this kind of crap.

Fark me. I've learned my lesson. Never trust any politician. And now, I'm left with nobody to vote for (because the Liberals may have changed their leaders, but the party apparatchik is still there). And, well, the NDP sits too far outside my political spectrum.

Crap. I may have to vote Green.

/Voted Conservative before, but that was the PC's under Joe Clark.
//it was in his riding in Calgary central
///his daughter is hot

 
Plate of Crazy 2008-03-02 12:00:36 AM  
AlanSmithee: What kind of life insurance company takes on a client that has only a few days to live? For a million dollar payout, to boot. Was the premium $1,000,005 ?

Pretty much the question I have. Plus, why hasn't Zytaruk produced the FULL tapes, not merely $500-a-pop bootleg copies of his conversations with Harper? Seriously, no one finds any of this at all suspicious, given there's a book about Cadman coming out this week?

tiiger: I can't hear you over the sound of 60 year old Sea Kings crashing because they were never replaced by the Liberal Government despite repeated promises to modernize Canada's Armed Forces.

Personally, I couldn't hear over the Liberals bribing giving a cabinet seat to Belinda Stronach and the failarity that has ensued in the Liberal party ever since.

 
Falcc 2008-03-02 12:19:09 AM  
I predict if Obama wins the US presidency Stephen Harper will be out within a year or so. Blair, Harker, Fidel, all out of power, Pakistan under a progressive majority. It's a lot of turnover, and at least some of the new people are doing much better than their predecesors already (Rudd). Of course even my British friends are too apolitical for me to know anything about their new guy, and Raoul Castro's probably just like Fidel but it's still movement in the right direction.

We're standing on the brink of something. Here's hoping it's a new age of prosperity.

 
Bucky Katt [TotalFark] 2008-03-02 12:28:00 AM  
this is in canadia, right?

 
funmonger 2008-03-02 12:35:13 AM  
Good. About time we rid ourselves of this robot. He/it is attempting to legislate the morality of tax credits for film and TV productions here in Canadaland. I want him replaced, like the machine he is, with a less ornery model.

Too bad his most likely replacement is a muppet.

 
Falcc 2008-03-02 12:36:48 AM  
Bucky Katt: this is in canadia, right?

No, he's the Prime Minister of California.

 
BoozePenguin 2008-03-02 12:50:22 AM  
Well there goes our surplus.

shiat. THis blows. It's right back to the liberals, by default.

way to fark things up.

 
ThematicDevice 2008-03-02 12:54:40 AM  
This seems kinda odd... The conservatives are accused of attempting to bribe a man, who refused the bribe, and despite having nothing to lose didn't tell anyone of significance.

The bribe in question is an insurance policy which no insurance company would ever offer, and it is all substantiated by a taped recording, which no one has full access to.

As we hear it now, it seems like an awfully complex conspiracy. The thing with conspiracies is the larger they get the harder they are to keep a secret. That they wouldn't come out at all until a reporter can cash in on his allegations with book sales seems a tad convenient. But I guess we'll have to wait until Tom Zypek makes his money before we all learn the truth.

 
funmonger 2008-03-02 01:08:33 AM  
ThematicDevice: This seems kinda odd... The conservatives are accused of attempting to bribe a man, who refused the bribe, and despite having nothing to lose didn't tell anyone of significance.

The bribe in question is an insurance policy which no insurance company would ever offer, and it is all substantiated by a taped recording, which no one has full access to.

As we hear it now, it seems like an awfully complex conspiracy. The thing with conspiracies is the larger they get the harder they are to keep a secret. That they wouldn't come out at all until a reporter can cash in on his allegations with book sales seems a tad convenient. But I guess we'll have to wait until Tom Zypek makes his money before we all learn the truth.


This bribe is probably bullshiat... then again, ADSCAM was bullshiat so hey! Let's have a bullshiat party.

 
Esn 2008-03-02 02:10:11 AM  
Umm... vote for the Greens?

Heck, their level of support in opinion polls lately has been the same as the Bloc Quebecois', which has 49 sitting members. Give 'em a seat already.

 
starsrift 2008-03-02 02:37:15 AM  
BoozePenguin: Well there goes our surplus.

shiat. THis blows. It's right back to the liberals, by default.

way to fark things up.


The Liberal party gave us the surplus in the first place. And, uh, the utter boom-town richness of Alberta tar sands and the territories' diamond mines probably have a lot to do with it.

The Conservative party just knows what to do with the surplus.

 
BoozePenguin 2008-03-02 03:10:52 AM  
starsrift

That's what i'm talking about. When i meant, "there it goes' i meant it'll be wasted.

 
Nickers 2008-03-02 04:07:53 AM  
Falcc: Bucky Katt: this is in canadia, right?

No, he's the Prime Minister of California.


Maybe it's just my lack of sleep talking, but that made me lol.


I didn't vote Conservative because of Stephen Harper's original stance on gay marriage. I still wouldn't vote for him now because I'd rather vote Liberal. I don't know enough about the Green Party to vote for them in the next election, and I don't think I'd vote for the NDP.

 
starsrift 2008-03-02 05:11:34 AM  
BoozePenguin: starsrift

That's what i'm talking about. When i meant, "there it goes' i meant it'll be wasted.


I don't know if it means a shiatstorm on the Conservative party. Depends on how many MPs are involved. Headlines and newsies aside, it doesn't really look like Harper himself had much, if anything, to do with this.

/ Seems like every year we get further and further away from "the PM is just another MP, but with veto power" idea.

 
mrEdude 2008-03-02 08:54:45 AM  
LETs kick that overgrown bullied little boy to the curb.

Harper needs the snot kicked out of him again, just like the old days, to remind him that he's a fuhking twinkie.

/the man has no discernable personality
//does whatever the USA does, like a little monkey man

 
JBalkwill 2008-03-02 04:04:19 PM  
Malbar: It was given back to the people who created it,

Those people who created it borrowed billions and have yet to pay it back.

 
BoozePenguin 2008-03-02 09:23:34 PM  
Malbar

JBalkwill
got my point. We are stilla nation in debt and the liberals want to spend the money on unbudgeted infrastructure spending. If we so desperately need it why the hell wasn't it budgeted for? This stuff has to be put in the budget, it's as simple as that. And i would agree with you about taking in too much if we didn't still carry the debt the liberals built up for us.

In the mean time paying the debt back is paramount. If these accusations are true it's going to be very, very bad for canada, as the country will go back to the liberals by default.

All i can hope for is one, that dion was BSing about the surplus spending, and that the liberals get a minority government.

Actually, i would love constant minority governments. Seems to keep the crooks in Ottawa on a short leash.

:p

 
BoozePenguin 2008-03-02 09:25:17 PM  
Christ, you're an idiot. For every intelligent, rational critique of Harper or the Conservative party, there are 55 morons like you who think using the word "Bush" or "lapdog" in the same sentence constitutes an argument in and of itself.

Would it really kill you people to mix a couple of legitimate arguments in with your mindless hyperbole and overused cliches and catchphrases?


K that was gold. Lovin it.

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2008-03-03 11:37:22 AM  
This is all pretty sketchy. Why didn't Cadman say anything about it at the time?

Sure seems to me like the media would love it if Harper had his hands dirty on this one, but they don't have any proof, so they sensationalize it.

I mean, these "taped statements" were part of a taped interview, not some hidden camera the Liberals cleverly stuck in the PMO. Harper knew he was being taped. Not exactly damning evidence, here.

 
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