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(AP) Obvious Attorney General Michael Mukasey upholds "zero accountability" strategy for the Bush administration   (hosted.ap.org) divider line 91
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Aeonic_Blue 2008-02-29 06:20:43 PM  
Oooh, surprising.

 
I_Hate_Iowa 2008-02-29 06:26:41 PM  
It's a good thing checks and balances make the three branches so equal. I guess some are more equal than others though.

 
SilentStrider [TotalFark] 2008-02-29 06:26:49 PM  
anyone shocked? Come on people, at least pretend to be shocked?

What do you mean you can't even pretend any more?

 
Your Faith is Creepy [TotalFark] 2008-02-29 06:27:10 PM  
score another one for the party of personal responsibility.

 
Uchiha_Cycliste [TotalFark] 2008-02-29 06:28:21 PM  
Aw shucks, accountability would require them to think instead of act. That's no way to lead! A leader must act, stupid leberals.

 
Two Dogs Farking [TotalFark] 2008-02-29 06:29:50 PM  
fark those farkers. fark them right in the ass.

 
burndtdan 2008-02-29 06:30:08 PM  
The House voted two weeks ago to cite Bolten and Mukasey for contempt of Congress and seek a grand jury investigation. Most Republicans boycotted the vote.

that typo made me do a double take. got me confused for a minute.

 
PlasticMoby 2008-02-29 06:30:34 PM  
yeah, this isn't shady business at all. The admin is completely trustworthy. nothing to hide. less than a year to go folks. Maybe then we can prosecute the living shiat outta each and every one them.


/cue the republican apologists

 
Uchiha_Cycliste [TotalFark] 2008-02-29 06:32:08 PM  
Two Dogs Farking: fark those farkers.
What are you gonna do?
Are you gonna force them to eat you shiat, then shiat out their shiat that was made up of your shiat and then force them to eat that?

 
burndtdan 2008-02-29 06:32:48 PM  
PlasticMoby: yeah, this isn't shady business at all. The admin is completely trustworthy. nothing to hide. less than a year to go folks. Maybe then we can prosecute the living shiat outta each and every one them.


/cue the republican apologists


i'm hoping that bush himself gets dragged into it for instructing the DoJ to not do their job. talk about conflict of interest.

 
Uchiha_Cycliste [TotalFark] 2008-02-29 06:32:50 PM  
PlasticMoby: yeah, this isn't shady business at all. The admin is completely trustworthy. nothing to hide. less than a year to go folks. Maybe then we can prosecute the living shiat outta each and every one them.


/cue the republican apologists


I'm sorry about the Republicans.
\am I doing it right?

 
Apik0r0s 2008-02-29 06:33:30 PM  
Of course they are not going to let this see the light of day.

Attorneygate is one of the biggest scandals ever in American politics, where the instruments of Justice were turned against the People, in order to deny some their right to vote. Nobody seems to get that, even with the White House and RNC emails proving that they were caging and engaging in vote suppression. Those who were fired were fired because they wouldn't use their offices and their power for the exclusive benefit of the RNC.

Farking criminals, these US Attorneys who did go along with it. Nothing more. It wasn't clever or in any other way laudable, it was obvious, easy and incredibly damaging.

Maybe the next AG won't be so forgiving.

In time, Attorneygate will be regarded as the biggest scandal of this era.

 
jake_lex [TotalFark] 2008-02-29 06:34:33 PM  
This guy isn't quite as obviously a toady and bootlick for Bush as Gonzalez was. But he's pretty damn close.

 
Opiate of the Lasses 2008-02-29 06:35:05 PM  
I'm not usually a supporter of capital punishment, but flat out treason like this, especially with the "fark you. Do something." attitude they have, is where I would make an exception.

 
ulairix 2008-02-29 06:35:41 PM  
Luckily Congress doesn't need Mukasey, they can send the House or Senate Sergeant at Arms to arrest Bolten or Miers.

 
AirForceVet [TotalFark] 2008-02-29 06:35:58 PM  
Enough of this executive privilege crap. Sue the President and let the Supreme Court decide if he can pick and choose what Congressional subpoenas to ignore.

/Don't recall Carter or Clinton pulling this crap.
//Nixon tried with his tapes but SCOTUS was unanimous against him.

 
Poopspasm [TotalFark] 2008-02-29 06:37:31 PM  
I will vote for anyone that promises to prosecute every member of this administration for every single violation of the law they've taken part in.

/Seriously

 
Great Caesar's Toast 2008-02-29 06:38:30 PM  
I like how he says completely ignoring a subpoena from CONGRESS isn't illegal. Boy, did he go to the north hollywood upstairs school of law or what?

 
burndtdan 2008-02-29 06:41:04 PM  
ulairix: Luckily Congress doesn't need Mukasey, they can send the House or Senate Sergeant at Arms to arrest Bolten or Miers.

that would be awesome.

 
Metaluna Mutant 2008-02-29 06:41:25 PM  
farm3.static.flickr.com

 
Anti_Freak_Machine [TotalFark] 2008-02-29 06:42:14 PM  
I would say a retarded monkey could do better, but Bush proved me wrong.

 
Lord_Baull 2008-02-29 06:42:25 PM  
Attorney General Michael Mukasey upholds "zero accountability" strategy for the Bush administration entire republican party.

Fixed it for you subby.

 
frimel 2008-02-29 06:42:28 PM  
somebody tell me again why Congress allowed this guy to become the AG?

 
drnugget [TotalFark] 2008-02-29 06:42:36 PM  
0 accounting of the money spent as well.

 
rosebud_the_sled 2008-02-29 06:43:29 PM  
Next time I get a subpoena, I'll use his logic and just ignore it. I wonder if that will work. I'm sure that whoever issued the subpoena would understand completely.

 
kronicfeld [TotalFark] 2008-02-29 06:44:58 PM  
Great Caesar's Toast: north hollywood upstairs school of law or what

I love that reference. Love it.

I miss the days when an alumnus of the Philadelphia Upstairs Law College would illuminate this thread with his expert insight into constitutional law.

 
burndtdan 2008-02-29 06:45:24 PM  
rosebud_the_sled: Next time I get a subpoena, I'll use his logic and just ignore it. I wonder if that will work. I'm sure that whoever issued the subpoena would understand completely.

claim it as legal precedent.

 
Lord_Baull 2008-02-29 06:46:50 PM  
somebody tell me again why Congress allowed this guy to become the AG?

Two words: recess appointment

/don't really know

 
Alphax 2008-02-29 06:49:06 PM  
Well, if the chief law enforcement officer of the nation won't enforce the law, can't we just fire him for dereliction of duty or something?

 
helix400 2008-02-29 06:50:31 PM  
The executive power says Contempt of Congress can't apply in their situation.

Hmmm....what would be really fun is if Bush said that some Congressmen were being cited with Contempt of the Executive.

 
PlasticMoby 2008-02-29 06:51:13 PM  
Uchiha_Cycliste: I'm sorry about the Republicans.
\am I doing it right?


heh, close enough

 
burndtdan 2008-02-29 06:54:52 PM  
helix400: The executive power says Contempt of Congress can't apply in their situation.

Hmmm....what would be really fun is if Bush said that some Congressmen were being cited with Contempt of the Executive.


well lets put it through the "would george bush say it?" test

- is it stupid? yes
- does it have no basis in reality? yes
- is the average syllable count less than 3? no
- if not, does it have words that he could easily mess up ie: nucular? yes

hmm... seems to pass the test.

 
kronicfeld [TotalFark] 2008-02-29 06:57:31 PM  
Alphax: Well, if the chief law enforcement officer of the nation won't enforce the law, can't we just fire him for dereliction of duty or something?

We need to find a Congress with some balls that might remind the Executive branch that ALL of its agencies exist because Congress passed laws creating them and continues to pass laws funding them. If there were a veto-proof majority in Congress that could exterminate, gut or completely reorganize administrative agencies, the President might stop being such a dick.

 
mediaho 2008-02-29 06:58:38 PM  

Please take a moment to read this:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. -- That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, -- That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. -Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain [George III] is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

 
Calcasieu 2008-02-29 07:00:12 PM  
FTFA:

Mukasey says they committed no crime.

But bad mistakes, they've made a few.

 
AdolfOliverPanties [TotalFark] 2008-02-29 07:00:40 PM  
Can these charges still be brought after President Farktard is out of office?

If so, just wait until the new AG is in, and then throw the motherfarking book at the whole lot of them.

 
Blues_X [TotalFark] 2008-02-29 07:06:10 PM  
photos.imageevent.com

 
poot_rootbeer 2008-02-29 07:08:13 PM  
Assertion: The Attorney General does not have a duty to refer Contempt of Congress charges to a grand jury.
Rebuttal: Are you farking kidding me?

Assertion: Congress's powers of subpoena do not apply to Executive branch officials when the magic words "Olly olly oxen free" "Executive privilege" are uttered.
Rebuttal: Are you farking kidding me?

Assertion: No crime was committed.
Rebuttal: Are you farking kidding me?

 
Bacontastesgood 2008-02-29 07:12:11 PM  
jake_lex: This guy isn't quite as obviously a toady and bootlick for Bush as Gonzalez was. But he's pretty damn close.

You got that right. My question is, how the fark does congress keep confirming these slime?

Bush's approval rating: 20% Polls say: because of Iraq, torture, economy, overspending, etc

Congress' approval rating: 10% Polls say: because of the free pass they give to the Bush administration.

DO YOUR FARKING JOBS OR WE WILL VOTE YOU OUT.

 
AirForceVet [TotalFark] 2008-02-29 07:14:44 PM  
FTFA: Mukasey took only a day to get back to her. But he had earlier joined his predecessor, Alberto Gonzales, in telling lawmakers they would refuse to refer any contempt citations to prosecutors because Bolten and Miers were acting at Bush's instruction.

The defendants at the Nuremberg trials also claim they were just following orders.

 
Bacontastesgood 2008-02-29 07:17:04 PM  
Lord_Baull: Two words: recess appointment

/don't really know


No, he was confirmed 53-40 (new window). Try to pay attention. News is pretty easy to get these days. Or you could have looked it up.

He weaseled on the attorney purges and torture enough to punk some foolish moderates into confirming him.

 
Shaggy_C 2008-02-29 07:17:27 PM  
AirForceVet: The defendants at the Nuremberg trials also claim they were just following orders.

They actually had trials where they had to make that claim to a jury.

 
Blues_X [TotalFark] 2008-02-29 07:18:23 PM  
www.watergate.com
Approves.

 
Sleeping Monkey [TotalFark] 2008-02-29 07:20:01 PM  
I hope Chuck Schumer and Dianne Feinstein are happy. This is exactly what they voted for. They knew it all along.

/scientific experiments for the both of them

 
Korovyov [TotalFark] 2008-02-29 07:22:49 PM  

Wrote Rep. Pelosi and my own representative (who also voted in favor of H. Res 982, in Roll Call Vote #60 to indicate that at least this citizen appreciates their attempts at oversight.


/notes that only 34 GOPers had the 'nads to even vote on it -- 163 didn't


 
Korovyov [TotalFark] 2008-02-29 07:27:37 PM  
Alphax --
The AG's boss is the president -- it's the latter's perogative to fire him. Congress can only attempt removal through impeachment -- with conviction requiring 2/3rds of those present.

 
BravadoGT [TotalFark] 2008-02-29 07:28:29 PM  
Why take a Con law class when you can just go to Fark?

1. Is Congress investigating an actual crime? No.
2. In the absence of a crime, does the executive branch have executive privilege? Yes.
3. Is there a bona fide separation of powers issue here? Yes.

What's more, anyone who's not a frothing partisan can see that Congress' motivation here is to make a public spectacle of these 2 people in some dog-and-pony show, where they'd do they'd make the usual speeches and throw out the usual wild (and unfounded, baseless) allegations in the hope of scoring political points.

By pursuing this course of action, Congress is abusing its power, and the president is not playing ball. If the tables were turned, and it was a GOP congress playing games with a Democratic administration-I wonder how many of you would be making the same argument...

 
rppp01a 2008-02-29 07:36:13 PM  
Bacontastesgood: He weaseled on the attorney purges and torture enough to punk some foolish moderates into confirming him.

I was listening to this on NPR and reading online and thought 'he's lying to them straight up. What if they don't confirm him? I hope they don't.' And then they did.

Can we have a mini-revolution? Purge those in power and start over? Please? My idea was to vote anti-incumbent for 20 years- and by then maybe they'd get an idea what we want and don't want.

 
Shaggy_C 2008-02-29 07:36:22 PM  
BravadoGT: 1. Is Congress investigating an actual crime? No.
2. In the absence of a crime, does the executive branch have executive privilege? Yes.
3. Is there a bona fide separation of powers issue here? Yes.


How can you investigate a crime if you are not allowed to gather evidence?

 
Shaggy_C 2008-02-29 07:38:06 PM  
rppp01a: Can we have a mini-revolution? Purge those in power and start over? Please? My idea was to vote anti-incumbent for 20 years- and by then maybe they'd get an idea what we want and don't want.

Obama and Clinton didn't even bother showing up for the vote - it would have been symbolic, given the fact that a clear majority was already set on confirming him.

 
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