I bet you would be O so surprised when obama osama signs a bill reducing military and defense spending wouldn't ya.

TexasIsBetter: I bet you would be O so surprised when obama osama signs a bill reducing military and defense spending wouldn't ya.

wow...that's what you call a "Texas Quick Draw Troll."

Wow! Boobietroll! We didn't even get a chance to mock the headline.

neomatt

In general, Democrats aren't exactly known for increasing defense spending.

I heard Obama eats infidel white babies like candied apples.

Only 330 more days until the Connecticut born village idiot of Crawford, Texas can go home to his new high security, non-extraditable compound in Paraguay.

4000+ Americans can't go home anymore.

LOL his name sounds like OSAMA.

Y'all forget to mention that his middle name is Hussein.

Republicans must be getting desperate.

Hey assmonkeys, 20%ers and the rest. If your dumbass chimp hadn't been so incompetent for the last 8 years, with your full support I might add, you wouldn't be about to live in a country who could elect a black democrat whose name sounds like a terrorists' . Nicely done, floor humpers.

TexasIsBetter: I bet you would be O so surprised when obama osama signs a bill reducing military and defense spending wouldn't ya.

I don't want my tax dollars paying your salary anymore. The Osama bullsh*t coming from somebody that supposedly is bringing democracy and freedom to the middle east is especially dismaying. How about a la carte defense spending? That way, we can make sure we are only paying for intelligent qualified people to fight instead of grossly uninformed police academy rejects with chips on their shoulders.

As it turns out, Barack Obama had his story mostly right. His larger narrative of a dangerous overburdened American military is unquestionably correct. But while conservatives will question his experience to be Commander-in-Chief, history shows it was George W. Bush who was not ready for duty.

/

I heard Obama ejaculates on pictures of the baby jesus while quoting the communist manifesto - on speed.

thamike: I don't want my tax dollars paying your salary anymore.

I don't want my tax dollars paying your salary anymore.

I'm a reservist who makes less doing this than a custodian in Iraq. Any good gear I have had to buy myself because of ignorant people like you.

The Osama bullsh*t coming from somebody that supposedly is bringing democracy and freedom to the middle east is especially dismaying.

Awww, poor baby did you get your little feelings hurt? Like you've never ever made any kind of Hilary or bush joke? Hypocrite. Look up that word if its too big for you.

How about a la carte defense spending?
Why do I have a feeling your grasp on military concepts and spending is weaker than the French Army? (Sorry, you probably have a high regard for the French)

That way, we can make sure we are only paying for intelligent qualified people to fight instead of grossly uninformed police academy rejects with chips on their shoulders.

bwaahahaha! Damn, if only I were as "enlightened" as you.. please teach me you ways? I bet the people I serve with are infinitely better people than your cowardly self and am honored to serve with them. Honor, what a funny thing... something you no doubt long to feel yet never will.

Eat your tofu, STFU, and go back to your office and stare at a computer screen.

thamike

Damn, I should have just clicked on your profile and seen you are from Washington D.C. A place where people just sit back and take a mugging like a little biotch. I don't blame you. I blame your parents.

TexasIsBetter: Eat your tofu, STFU, and go back to your office and stare at a computer screen.

You're an embarrassment to our state. Grow up.

TexasIsBetter: Damn, I should have just clicked on your profile and seen you are from Washington D.C. A place where people just sit back and take a mugging like a little biotch. I don't blame you. I blame your parents.

What if I told you I'm on my fourth tour in Iraq? A few of my like-minded friends and family are and they scoff at paintballing stateside rambomaniac soldier-by-resume numbskulls such as yourself who give the military a bad name. And they love France. Just like anybody with an iota of cultural sensibility does.

TexasIsBetter: I bet you would be O so surprised when obama osama signs a bill reducing military and defense spending wouldn't ya.
Good. Its a been a huge waste of money.

TFA: Bush's claims were - and he knew them to be - patently false.
The first of many like claims.

Sleeping Monkey: TexasIsBetter: I bet you would be O so surprised when obama osama signs a bill reducing military and defense spending wouldn't ya.
Good. Its a been a huge waste of money.

yeah...was that supposed to be threatening? "We must spend 2-3 times on defense as the world combined or ZOMG Terrrists is gonna kill yer childrens!"

I will be surprised, but pleasantly.

If giving the troops new equipment means that we are not giving a vast amount of money to Halliburton then of course it's unpatriotic. Money must only flow to where Bush/Cheney say it should flow.

Scienceman123: TexasIsBetter: TexasIsBetter

Damn, I should have just clicked on your profile and seen you are from Texas. A place where people just sit back and elect a moran like a little biotch. I don't blame you. I blame your parents.

equiptment?

It is my opinion that 'patriotism' as it is used by those who would question another's patriotism, is akin to nationalism and jingoism, and not something to be aspired to.

I'm a patriot, I just think we have a bad government. The country is the people, not the organizations created to manage that country.

But it doesn't look like we'll be getting much serious discussion done in this thread so....

Bush got DUIs and had a coke habit and ruined every business venture he had his hand in. So there.

TexasIsBetter

Real shock you ended up a bullet sponge in life.

"A few of my like-minded friends and family are and they scoff at paintballing stateside rambomaniac soldier-by-resume numbskulls such as yourself who give the military a bad name."

Zing!

Because People in power are Stupid: If giving the troops new equipment means that we are not giving a vast amount of money to Halliburton then of course it's unpatriotic. Money must only flow to where Bush/Cheney say it should flow.



Of course. Voodoo trickle-down economics, as stated by corporate stooge economist Milton Friedman.



It's the philosophy that has swept America, where giving money to the already-rich and powerful is actually justified as being a good thing, while helping the poor and sick that are in need is seen as a bad thing. It's the reverse-Robin Hood economic philosophy in action.

Even the Sheriff of Nottingham and King John would have been proud of finding a way to justify this and actually convince a majority of the unwashed masses that taking from the poor to help the rich is in their best interests.

You see, if we give money to the already rich, the rich will go buy another yacht, which will mean that builders of yachts will have more jobs, which will mean that they will have more money to spend on Burger King, thus helping the poor!

And about 50% of the country actually still believes it!

thamike: TexasIsBetter: Damn, I should have just clicked on your profile and seen you are from Washington D.C. A place where people just sit back and take a mugging like a little biotch. I don't blame you. I blame your parents.

What if I told you I'm on my fourth tour in Iraq? A few of my like-minded friends and family are and they scoff at paintballing stateside rambomaniac soldier-by-resume numbskulls such as yourself who give the military a bad name. And they love France. Just like anybody with an iota of cultural sensibility does.

TexasIsBetter: I bet you would be O so surprised when obama osama signs a bill reducing military and defense spending wouldn't ya.

Nope, I wouldn't. I welcome a reduction in the military. We cannot afford it. And having it around makes it imperative to use the damn thing. It becomes a beast with an endless appetite.

I believe you just got pwned Texas. I'm willing to bet he outranks you.

/future army officers wife

TexasIsBetter: Why do I have a feeling your grasp on military concepts and spending is weaker than the French Army? (Sorry, you probably have a high regard for the French)

Most people who support waterboarding or invoke the "ticking time bomb" scenario have a high regard for the French. After all, it was the French who invented that argument during their occupation of Algeria to justify torturing Muslims there. The previous justifications for torture (it's okay to do it because they're not human; torture is punishment for sins; we should do it to retaliate for their previous terrorism) didn't appeal to French liberals, but the ticking time bomb scenario seemed to fit the bill.

So there you go. Every time a conservative channels "24" to defend torture, or says that they don't like it but it's necessary to protect us, they are channeling French liberals from the '60s.

"Confronted by CNN, Bush refused to own up to his fraud and pointed a suspicious finger at the military itself."

Wait, wait. Is this article actually suggesting that George W. Bush occasionally tells bald-faced lies?

ace in your face: I believe you just got pwned Texas. I'm willing to bet he outranks you.

/future army officers wife

He didn't actually say he was. He said, "What if..." it looks as though some of his friends and family are though.

Know who else was "not ready for duty"?

you know who else hates America?

VR6Rattles: But it doesn't look like we'll be getting much serious discussion done in this thread so....

Bush got DUIs and had a coke habit and ruined every business venture he had his hand in. So there.


Obama was getting high, trying coke, and getting drunk in high school. What's your point?

Oh for f*cks sake

In 2000, we had eight years of Bill Clinton--and more importantly, eight years of not picking fights.

The Soviet bear was dead. Operation Desert Storm long over. There was no NEED to pour money into the military at the time.

Kinda reminds me of how the US Military looked in November, 1941.

That changed in September of 2001, just like it did in December of 1941. The fact that Dubya mentioned this very event but forgetting the context is telling: seems to me that Dubya was itching for his own little 'save the world via war' scenario even then, and boy did he get it. Now, we've had almost eight years of jumping into fights in the Middle East--a place that was known for endless war for decades if not centuries.

You think maybe our military needs might have changed?

Problem: this has been an absolute display of military incompetency at the command level. We went from a similar defense-only posture to smacking the shiat out of both the Japanese and German military machines in half the time--but at great cost in terms of civilian sacrifice, lives, and personal freedoms. Without the ability to muster that, you get a confused clusterfark like, oh, Vietnam.

Some of you may remember that the military DID reply "NOT ready for duty, sir." The administration's response at the time, "Go anyway, you go with what you have not what you wished you had or may have at a later time"--a truism of war, but the fact remains.

Of course, the problem is that Obama is POINTING OUT that the Republican-led party in power has farked up royally. Nobody likes being told that, so they attack him for daring to say it.

But now. This article means to tell me that as early as 2000, Dubya was lying his head off about war.

I dare any user of the phrase "Bush Derangement Syndrome" to come up and defend the statement that Bush Derangement is to hate him without cause rather than to love him without cause: Bush Derangement is clearly the act of believing a single thing Dubya says.

Guess_Who: Obama was getting high, trying coke, and getting drunk in high school. What's your point?

Obama eventually became a responsible adult.

TexasIsBetter

You, sir, are a blathering idiot.

\always mess with Texas

Lionel Mandrake: Guess_Who: Obama was getting high, trying coke, and getting drunk in high school. What's your point?

Obama eventually became a responsible adult.

Fixed that. Bush is technically an adult.

TexasIsBetter: I bet the people I serve with are infinitely better people than your cowardly self and am honored to serve with them. Honor, what a funny thing... something you no doubt long to feel yet never will.


This must be what honor looks like in the 21st century:




The problem here is that honor looks different than we all imagined it. So please, keep your honor to yourself. I don't think anyone here longs to feel this brand of honor.

Face it, you guys are animals.

Kyosuke: You're an embarrassment to our state. Grow up.

Excellent argument, glad you could your wonderful insight.

thamike: What if I told you I'm on my fourth tour in Iraq?

I would properly call you a liar. No one in Iraq is as detached from reality as you clearly are.

A few of my like-minded friends and family are and they scoff at paintballing stateside rambomaniac soldier-by-resume numbskulls such as yourself

How long did it take you to form that sentence? And the fact that you called me a soldier PROVES that your ARE INDEED A LIAR. If you were a person of uniform you would be able to tell the difference in OURS. I shouldn't continue to even to type this because you have already proven yourself a LIAR.

And they love France. Just like anybody with an iota of cultural sensibility does.

Excuse me while I puke a little.

Lionel Mandrake: yeah...was that supposed to be threatening? "We must spend 2-3 times on defense as the world combined or ZOMG Terrrists is gonna kill yer childrens!"

I will be surprised, but pleasantly.

Mr. Mandrake, your ignorance is showing again, cover it up before someone sees it. Weak nations crumble, thats a historical fact. No school for you?

LocalCynic: Most people who support waterboarding or invoke the "ticking time bomb" scenario have a high regard for the French. After all, it was the French who invented that argument during their occupation of Algeria to justify torturing Muslims there. The previous justifications for torture (it's okay to do it because they're not human; torture is punishment for sins; we should do it to retaliate for their previous terrorism) didn't appeal to French liberals, but the ticking time bomb scenario seemed to fit the bill.

So there you go. Every time a conservative channels "24" to defend torture, or says that they don't like it but it's necessary to protect us, they are channeling French liberals from the '60

Personally, if it is done, I would rather not know about it, and if it isn't done, I would rather not know about it. I personally took information from a little kid who told us specifically where to look for HME and all sorts of other goodies that make things go "boom" under my humvee. We found it right were he said it was and also apprehended an individual who had been captured and released before. I don't pretend to know why, all I know is when we ran him through the BATS system he came up as having already been incarcerated. But... who knows, maybe if we had better interrogation techniques we would have found out more about this individual and maybe vic 1 in our convoy a few months ago would not be a piece of scrap metal in a junkyard.

bartink: Nope, I wouldn't. I welcome a reduction in the military. We cannot afford it. And having it around makes it imperative to use the damn thing. It becomes a beast with an endless appetite.

Ya your a regular smart one. Lets cut off our fists in the middle of a fight? You've probably never been in any sort of a fight though, but for those of of who don't shy away from confrontation like a little liberal biotch... we don't like to lose.

24-Bit Voxel: Face it, you guys are animals.



Clearly we are. you should see the stuff we put in those stockings, straigt up poison, it will be so funny when they eat it!!LOLZhahahaYOURARETARD!!!!

Yes, Texas, everyone is fkt up and ignorant except you.

Guess_Who

Hah, love the new nick Afternoon_MightyDogLeather

TexasIsBetter: I personally took information from a little kid who told us specifically where to look for HME and all sorts of other goodies that make things go "boom" under my humvee.

Dude, bullying small children for their lunch money doesn't count.

There just isn't a way for you to convince anyone you're a soldier. If you had the confidence that a soldier needs, you wouldn't feel the need to protest so much.

Give it up.

Guess_Who: ace in your face: I believe you just got pwned Texas. I'm willing to bet he outranks you.

/future army officers wife

He didn't actually say he was. He said, "What if..." it looks as though some of his friends and family are though.

I'm not. I was of military age for the brief period of time when plundering the middle east for oil wasn't done as blunderingly and cantakerously as it is now. but yes, my father was. My uncle was. My grandfather was. And many friends and co-workers are, 5 of which are in one of those units that spend an inordinate amount of time wearing night vision and sneaking around rooftops. And no, I don't mean the paparazzi.

TexasIsBetter: Clearly we are. you should see the stuff we put in those stockings, straigt up poison, it will be so funny when they eat it!!LOLZhahahaYOURARETARD!!!!


Well since it's not poison, I'd wager that the honor is in the stocking somewhere. How did you fit it all in there?

Lionel Mandrake: Yes, Texas, everyone is fkt up and ignorant except you.

Thats good, acceptance and sudden realization are the first steps to recovery. No really, you have to have something better than that?

Dipsomaniac: Dude, bullying small children for their lunch money doesn't count.

The point was (I didn't count on people like you getting it anyway, so I apologize for using too complicated of an explanation for you) that we shouldn't have to rely on little kids. Our intelligence community should be doing this.

There just isn't a way for you to convince anyone you're a soldier. If you had the confidence that a soldier needs, you wouldn't feel the need to protest so much.

You wouldn't get it if I told you that calling me a soldier is kind of an insult would you? If it weren't for a damn lung infection that I felt was going to kill me I would still be there instead of sitting here staring at a computer screen bored enough to argue with people who make no impact in this world.

TexasIsBetter: I would properly call you a liar. No one in Iraq is as detached from reality as you clearly are.

I didn't say I was. I offered a hypothetical situation based on the fact that every soldier I know views punk-ass strip-mall jockeys like you with contempt. Especially if you wind up in their unit. Those of them that have seen any combat just shrug and keep their distance. They accept the fact that you are a tragedy in boots, they just don't want you making them part of it.

How long did it take you to form that sentence? And the fact that you called me a soldier PROVES that your ARE INDEED A LIAR. If you were a person of uniform you would be able to tell the difference in OURS. I shouldn't continue to even to type this because you have already proven yourself a LIAR.

The fact that you are impressed with grammar school-level wordplay isn't doing your argument much of a service.