Dear Muslims,

The rest of the world will not cater to your needs. If you wish to attend a university where the facilities and scheduling comfirm to the Islamic faith, then I suggest you attend university in a Muslim country.
Until then, fark off.

signed,

The rest of the World

p.s. Stop blowing people up to prove how peaceful you are.

Yea, they really do need to stop trying to assimilate our culture, it's pretty annoying.

Free tickets to whatever third world shiathole they want to go back to

Some of them tried pulling this sh*t at the University of Toronto, demanding separate cafeterias where Halal food had no chance of coming in contact with non-Halal food.

Reasonable f*cking accommodation. You only get so much cultural allowance.

miseducated: Some of them tried pulling this sh*t at the University of Toronto, demanding separate cafeterias where Halal food had no chance of coming in contact with non-Halal food


Hey, I remember that.

Solution:

When I was in college my religious practices kept me from going to class on weekdays and studying for exams. It didnt go over so well for my grades.

It's fine to deny these requests, so long as accommodations aren't being made for other faiths. Many universities are shut down for Yom Kippur or Good Friday, and devote campus space to prayer rooms and chapels.

Jihad on this infidel school! Jihaadddddd!

hitchking: It's fine to deny these requests, so long as accommodations aren't being made for other faiths. Many universities are shut down for Yom Kippur or Good Friday, and devote campus space to prayer rooms and chapels.

I don't know about Australia, but I don't think US universities close for Yom Kippur, Good Friday, or any other religious holiday. But I've been out of school for 10+ years so things may have changed.

Wow, 10 posts in and nobody has said Christians in America are just as bad?

Is this Fark?

meanviking: Wow, 10 posts in and nobody has said Christians in America are just as bad?

Is this Fark?

I'm sure there will be plenty once this hits the main page.

SurfaceTension: hitchking: It's fine to deny these requests, so long as accommodations aren't being made for other faiths. Many universities are shut down for Yom Kippur or Good Friday, and devote campus space to prayer rooms and chapels.

I don't know about Australia, but I don't think US universities close for Yom Kippur, Good Friday, or any other religious holiday. But I've been out of school for 10+ years so things may have changed.

I don't know any. We do have spring break, which was traditionally over easter, but isn't any more. And yea, we get winter break. But most places end up with some kind of mid year break anyway.

The point is that you must conform to the dominant culture to at least some minimum threshold. Cultural differences can be tolerated only so long as they do not disrupt the working of the society. If you don't like it, you can get the fark out. The holidays that are on the National Calendar are not there to cater to the respective religions but to cater to the dominant culture(s) shared by the members of society. In the USA, the dominant cultures have traditionally been Christian with a strong Jewish minority. Its not the religions that matter, but the people's culture. So arguments that sound like: "But... but... but the Christians!..." Are invalid. You won't find me in a place like Saudi Arabia, petitioning the government to force women to wear skimpy clothing because thats what my California culture calls for. Yet somehow, many minorities living in western countries think that they have some right to live however they feel they should be allowed to, no matter how much it goes against the mores of the host society. If multiculturalism is a sound principle, then we can go down that slippery slope. The laws will again become a matter of privilege (private law). "Oh, your a Muslim, then the murder statute doesn't apply to you when you kill someone who sketched a picture of some 6/7th century bullshiat artist." If you really think that a society should have to bend to accommodate the culture of whoever might happen to be in town, bare in mind that there are plenty of cultural norms from any society that are mutually exclusive to the norms from another. So multiculturalism creates either conflict, enclavization, or both.

When in Rome do as the Romans, and if you can't be bothered to get that far, at the very least, STFU!

give me doughnuts: Dear Muslims,

The rest of the world will not cater to your needs. If you wish to attend a university where the facilities and scheduling comform to the Islamic faith, then I suggest you attend university in a Muslim country.
Until then, fark off.

signed,

The rest of the World

p.s. Stop blowing people up to prove how peaceful you are.

I work for a public school district with a fairly high immigrant population many of which are Muslim. With this in mind, I heartily agree with the sentiment stated above.

Keep your farking religion out of our public schools (that goes for your too, Xtians).

You want religion in school? Attend a parochial school.

muck4doo: meanviking: Wow, 10 posts in and nobody has said Christians in America are just as bad?

Is this Fark?

I'm sure there will be plenty once this hits the main page.

Oops...I guess I did this bit.

Sorry.

I'm surprised this is an issue in college - can't you just take classes scheduled at a different time? Working students deal with this already.

As for the food issue, if they live in the dorms and have to eat school food it would be an issue, otherwise, brown bag it or start up a religious cafeteria privately (similar to Hillel serving kosher meals around many colleges in the US). Then, let the kids in the dorms opt out of paying for dorm food (if it's one of those "included in the bill" things) so that they can go eat all their meals in that religious cafeteria.

People requiring full segregation really should be at an acceptable private school, yeah. FWIW yes, there ARE Christians who go to these extremes, but usually they don't want to go to mainstream public colleges anyway, so the conflict never comes up.

Another option (followed at some large US colleges) is to allow for certification of non-campus-built housing to serve as dorms. So, you can live in a Catholic dorm for men only, for instance, for the "must live in the dorms" part of college, the U makes sure it's adequately supervised and all that, but doesn't actually run the place, so that "certified housing" is allowed to set up its own rules.

If that's allowed, then any special groups can just buy a house and set one up, full-on halal everywhere and separate houses for each sex, whatever they want.

I'm sure the universities in Saudi Arabia will also be allowing frats and keg parties for the western students.

meanviking: Wow, 10 posts in and nobody has said Christians in America are just as bad?

Is this Fark?

I'll bite. I suppose they could have asked for a daily moment of prayer in every class, the teaching of abstinence instead of sex ed, the teaching of creationism instead of reality, and the removal of all books having to do with penguins.

/not as bad
//but still stupid

i came in here to say what lajimi said.

I've never understood why Muslim men choose to be segregated from women. Their religion is more powerful than their libido. That's some crazy farkin' shiat right there. Those knuckleheads are WAAAY devoted to that Quaran, or whatever you call it.

I came here to say "Fark these farking farks."

Maybe it's all the years of having diversity shoved down my throat, but when I see turkeys like this demanding that everyone *else* change to suit *their* culture, I draw the line.

hitchking: It's fine to deny these requests, so long as accommodations aren't being made for other faiths. Many universities are shut down for Yom Kippur or Good Friday, and devote campus space to prayer rooms and chapels.

Okay, like which University besides Brandies doesn't have classes on Yom Kippur.

Sammy Jenkins: Like jewish students who demand special meals at college? For people who hate each other so much, Muslims and Jews have a lot in common.

Dude, that's fine with me if they won't eat bacon. Leaves more for us.

But jesus, these people sound like their religion is based on being a bratty child.

"Eat your vegetables."

"I don't like broccoli! get me something else!"

"Fine, here eat this pig meat."

"That animal wallows in mud and even though no internal organs get sullied by it and this meat is approved by the FDA, I refuse to eat it anyway!"

/f*ckin' morons

How about they just go fark themselves instead.

If western civilization, equality of the sexes, and lack of state imposed religion is a problem for you then why not move to a country where that kind of backwards nonsense is they way society is run?

It's 2008. If you want to live in the stone-age, move to countries that are still stuck in the stone age. The rest of us like the present day with it's "freedom of religion" and "womens rights" and "indoor plumbing".

You don't like it? There's the door. GTFO.

GaryPDX: Yea, they really do need to stop trying to assimilate our culture, it's pretty annoying.

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!!!!!

Signed
The Muslim Borg

give me doughnuts
Dear Muslims,

The rest of the world will not cater to your needs. If you wish to attend a university where the facilities and scheduling comfirm to the Islamic faith, then I suggest you attend university in a Muslim country.
Until then, fark off.

signed,

The rest of the World

p.s. Stop blowing people up to prove how peaceful you are.

THIS.

give me doughnuts: Dear Muslims,

The rest of the world will not cater to your needs. If you wish to attend a university where the facilities and scheduling comfirm to the Islamic faith, then I suggest you attend university in a Muslim country.
Until then, fark off.

signed,

The rest of the World

p.s. Stop blowing people up to prove how peaceful you are.

This post is so full of win it's like a party in my mouth, and I can't even farking taste it!

Many universities in the US have kosher dining halls. Since kosher food is also halal (though not vice-versa), there's an obvious solution here. Ironic, but obvious.

Here in sunny california, students protest for vegan food. And co-ed everything. And legal public nudity. (Not moving to Saudi any time soon)....

Eh? There were muslim students and a couple professors at my university, none had a problem. There were enough classes out there that they could change their own schedule around it. Granted it was probably easier for the professors. If the students thought they would get cooties in the lunchroom they could take their lunches and then eat elsewhere.

It's not like restaurants and other places are going to start segregating their dining rooms, why should the campus? They are going to have to encounter the opposite sex at some point.

I'm betting it's not any female students who are requesting this segregation.

/female Saudis don't get to study abroad, do they?
//why can't Muslim men learn a little self control?

yes, because kosher meals definitely equals seperate rooms for men and women. definitely on the same level, for sure. totally!

Sammy Jenkins: Like jewish students who demand special meals at college? For people who hate each other so much, Muslims and Jews have a lot in common.

Um okay, another idiot. At which colleges do Jews "demand" special meals? Lots of religious jews just go to their campus Hillel to get kosher food.

Muslim's want...

Yes... they do

As a Muslim, may I say

?

I want my nation to step up to the plate, and cater to the 'pseudo-binge-drinking, topless-girl-watching, softcore-lesbian-dating wise-ass generation that likes D&D, sushi and transformers.'

Who's with me?

p.s. It's a valid religion, it's called 'Being a Man'

Why aren't you calling people who oppose this nonsense racists and xenophobes for being anti-immigrant?

Come on, don't be inconsistant and hypocritical, it's page one of the left wing playbook!

BTW...I have been to 3 colleges and never ONCE have I seen Jews " demanding " special meals or anything else.

Sammy Jenkins =FAIL

They tried that here too.
fark 'em, it's your religion, you deal with it, you don't have everyone else deal with it for you.

Sammy Jenkins: Like jewish students who demand special meals at college? For people who hate each other so much, Muslims and Jews have a lot in common.

If Jewish students said "bacon should not be served at the cafeteria" then I'd tell them to fark off as well.

Conversely, if Muslim students request special meals I could give a shiat.

It's one thing to request something that will assist you in following your beliefs. It's quite another to request the whole school change so that everyone will have to follow your beliefs.

FREE PORK RINDS FOR ALL!

Tell 'em to get stuffed.

I'm sick of this crap in my country. How dare they come here and make demands on us? You don't like how it is here? GO HOME. We aren't an Islamic nation and we never will be.

Epsilon: I've never understood why Muslim men choose to be segregated from women. Their religion is more powerful than their libido. That's some crazy farkin' shiat right there. Those knuckleheads are WAAAY devoted to that Quaran, or whatever you call it.

This usually gets covered in a 'comparative religions class, but let me see if I can sum it up...

Early religion was largely about self-mastery, among other things (codified laws as 'god said' rather than 'common farking sense says', and so on). This is evident in the Catholic priests; they are to be celibate. Self denial brings strength (or just makes you batshiat crazy). I'm doing a terrible job explaining it, blah.

Silly muslim boys. In my school, we crossed our fingers to make ourselves immune to cooties. Do they know nothing?

I'd be happy to rearrange my life to accommodate their religious requirements, provided they fully recognize my Ramadan Pork Chop Jubilee when I visit their home country.

evilstein: having diversity shoved down my throat

Too many "Kosher Pickles"?

Ground_Hog: FREE MANDATORY PORK RINDS FOR ALL!

Sammy Jenkins: Like jewish students who demand special meals at college? For people who hate each other so much, Muslims and Jews have a lot in common.

Oh Sammy Jenkins, I believe I have a "Red Forman Dumbass Award" for you.

ringo2: Many universities in the US have kosher dining halls. Since kosher food is also halal (though not vice-versa), there's an obvious solution here. Ironic, but obvious.

Here in sunny california, students protest for vegan food. And co-ed everything. And legal public nudity. (Not moving to Saudi any time soon)....

Good point about the Vegans. At my university they were always petitioning for more vegan options at the dinning halls. Sounds reasonable. But when Muslims try to alter the dinning food, suddenly they're "trying to take over the world and make us submitt to sharia law."